The ?God Alone? Challenge

Samia

Samia
Funny as usual, your posts are treat to read

Prophet was delivering a Message; why?

Without any purpose
He wanted people to be as they were after listening to his Message
He wanted them to embrace Islam

Any balance minded person knows it is #3.
He fought wars for this purpose, he took capitives, he travelled, he killed, he pardoned.

Raj-ah

Well, God says so (8822). If you have any issues, bring them up with Him.
People change themselves, AND God says He does not change people until they change themselves. The prophet has no say in whether someone converts or not.

Of course you have no time reading the quraan as much as reading, and insisting on, this nonesense

the builders of Mosque Zaraar (dharar).

And BTW, if you read the quraan, you will find that it is written "DHaraarAN" not DHaraar . Now find me a name of someone ending with accusative nunnation brickwall
Why do you forget their partners "Kufran" ? ;D 9107 ( )
Are they the same construction company, "Zaraar", mentioned in this verse 2231 " "?
I explained this to you many times, but as long as you think that my posts are a treat to read, how can you understand? giveup

Raj-ah

Samia

Raj-ah
Well, God says so (8822). If you have any issues, bring them up with Him.
People change themselves, AND God says He does not change people until they change themselves. The prophet has no say in whether someone converts or not.

Your statement is irrelevant to what I replied to Bigmo's post.
Samia I know you can understand what I am trying to say but you wont accept it.

WHY WAS PROPHET DELIVERING THE MESSAGE OF ISLAM? He was on mission assigned to him by Allah, and what was he trying to acheive by delivering the Message? offcourse even a third grader can know this

TO CONVERT THOSE WHO DONOT BELIEVED IN ONE GOD

to acheive his goal he

Fought Wars, He Killed, He Travelled, He pardoned, He preached.

Raj-ah

SAMIA

{107}
And those who built a masjid to cause harm and for unbelief and to cause disunion among the believers and an ambush to him who made war against Allah and His Messenger before; and they will certainly swear We did not desire aught but good; and Allah bears witness that they are most surely liars.

Samia

And BTW, if you read the quraan, you will find that it is written "DHaraarAN" not DHaraar . Now find me a name of someone ending with accusative nunnation
Why do you forget their partners "Kufran" ? 9107 ( )
Are they the same construction company, "Zaraar", mentioned in this verse 2231 " "?
I explained this to you many times, but as long as you think that my posts are a treat to read, how can you understand?

Oh Samia are you this Innocent, did I said in any of my post that Quran has named that Masjid mentioned in the verse as Dharaar, NO, it was the name given to the Masjid by the People and Prophet after revealtion of the verse

DHERAAR (verbal noun ?MASDAR)

Harming other, or damaging wealth , dignity and body, or offending their personal rights, in the word DHERAAR the person who cases the harm is also included. (causing harm) Or harm done by some one with purpose. There is a sense of subject or the one who did the harm in it.

So who built that Mosque were actually HARMING ISLAM as I pointed out to Savage_Carrot. And Allah said about those who built that Mosque

And those who built a masjid to cause harm and for unbelief and to cause disunion among the believers and an ambush to him who made war against Allah and His Messenger before; and they will certainly swear We did not desire aught but good; and Allah bears witness that they are most surely liars.

See what Allah says about the people who talk about disuniting Muslims and telling us to built a KIBLA anywhere we wish.

Samia

Raj-ah

I understand you and you understand me. We do not agree!!

Do you mean the prophet fought and killed those who refused to convert? I disagree here.

He behaved as the quraan orders him (and us) no killing of those who refuse to convert just for that reason. No compulsion.

Did he fight the people of the book in order to convert them? If he is a messenger of all the world, and his mission is to convert everyone, why did he fight some but not the others?

He travelled and fought to deliver the message and killed the transgressants, and those who fought him to block the message from the masses.

Why didn't he fight the kings of Abyssinia and of Egypt? These two countries continued to be Christians a long time after him. But he fought the Romans who were also Christians.

Samia

SAMIA

{107}
And those who built a masjid to cause harm and for unbelief and to cause disunion among the believers and an ambush to him who made war against Allah and His Messenger before; and they will certainly swear We did not desire aught but good; and Allah bears witness that they are most surely liars.

Samia

Oh Samia are you this Innocent, did I said in any of my post that Quran has named that Masjid mentioned in the verse as Dharaar, NO, it was the name given to the Masjid by the People and Prophet after revealtion of the verse

DHERAAR (verbal noun ?MASDAR)

If those people are stupid, why do you follow them? Why do you even believe someone saying that they called the mosque "Zaraar"?

The prophet understands the message delivered to him. He would not make a common noun a proper name. Caling it "Dharaar, or actually Dhiraar" makes it quite innocent, as it removes the "harmful" translation and makes it untranslatable....just a name. And by the way, this name DOES exist. I mean Dhiraar.

Raj-ah

Samia

I understand you and you understand me. We do not agree!!

Do you mean the prophet fought and killed those who refused to convert? I disagree here.

He behaved as the quraan orders him (and us) no killing of those who refuse to convert just for that reason. No compulsion.

Did he fight the people of the book in order to convert them? If he is a messenger of all the world, and his mission is to convert everyone, why did he fight some but not the others?

He travelled and fought to deliver the message and killed the transgressants, and those who fought him to block the message from the masses.

Why didn't he fight the kings of Abyssinia and of Egypt? These two countries continued to be Christians a long time after him. But he fought the Romans who were also Christians.

I am sorry to say then you may have not gone through many verses which talk about "Captives/Slaves" "Jihaad" etc.

Samia

He travelled and fought to deliver the message and killed the transgressants, and those who fought him to block the message from the masses.

So he Killed, why? While answering this may be you will arrive at what I failed to made you understand.

Samia

Why didn't he fight the kings of Abyssinia and of Egypt? These two countries continued to be Christians a long time after him. But he fought the Romans who were also Christians

So he fought, WHy?

Samia

Did he fight the people of the book in order to convert them? If he is a messenger of all the world, and his mission is to convert everyone, why did he fight some but not the others?

The time from which he was appointed as a Messanger till his death, he tried to fullfill his mission through travelling, Preaching, Killing, Fighting, Pardoning, may be if he lived further Abyssinia and Egypt would also be included in the list.