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Ramadan is the hottest month,ok, but what about in the south hemisphere?

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    tarikh
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    Peace, even though i believe in code 19 and 3 salats just like brother edip,
    i was really convinced by the article "calendars..." that ramadan is to be observed during the hottest month, because if we claim to follow quran alone, then we cannot follow a so called islamic calendar that is not detailed in quran.
    My question to the researchers out here is
    quran was revealed in ramadan, we should fast therein. There is only one night of destiny, one ramadan wherein quran was revealed. Ok? So if u, in the north, observe fasting-ramadan in june, should we, in the south observe it in december? Quran was revealed in june, if quran says to fast therein, do those in the south have to fast in june? Or december?

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      unknownuser
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      Hi
      On poles no hot month.So no Ramadan.

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        Jack
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        2185 "Whoever witnesses the month, then let him fast during it"

        Otherwise, it'd be a huge problem for let's say - Alaskan natives

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          2185 "Whoever witnesses the month, then let him fast during it"

          Otherwise, it'd be a huge problem for let's say - Alaskan natives

          Hi
          Fasting is during "hot months" and these are not present on "North Pole" ,so how can they fast?

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            Samia
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            Hi
            Fasting is during "hot months" and these are not present on "North Pole" ,so how can they fast?

            The verse sets a condition whever witnesses it should fast; whoever doesn't, shouldn't

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              unknownuser
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              The verse sets a condition whever witnesses it should fast; whoever doesn't, shouldn't

              On north Pole there is no witnessing of "hot months".
              Then how does fasting is imposed on them?

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                Samia
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                On north Pole there is no witnessing of "hot months".
                Then how does fasting is imposed on them?

                You did not understand what you quoted me in?

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                  unknownuser
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                  You did not understand what you quoted me in?

                  Sorry for that ,it means North poles muslims are exempted from "Fasting" and those living on equator must 'fast" because they witness hot months.
                  Divine justice !!!!!!!!!!

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                    mahtabkhan
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                    Salaamun Alaikum all,

                    I think for those who are on North Poles, they can fast in the month from 12 months which is the least coldest. D

                    Isn't that the hottest month (not for them, ok, but) comparing to other months?

                    Just a thought.... Allah knows better.

                    May Allah guide us all towards the correct path.

                    Allah Hafiz

                    MMKhan

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                      farida
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                      Salaamun Alaikum all,

                      I think for those who are on North Poles, they can fast in the month from 12 months which is the least coldest.

                      Isn't that the hottest month (not for them, ok, but) comparing to other months?

                      Just a thought.... Allah knows better.

                      May Allah guide us all towards the correct path.

                      Allah Hafiz

                      Salaam everyone

                      The Ramadan I know is the one, which teaches us about the benefits of fasting and this spritual experience through all seasons in, I believe, a 23 year cycle. To limit the experience of fasting to the hottest month would reduce it to a very limited repetitive experience.
                      Best regards
                      farida

                      MMKhan

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                        mahtabkhan
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                        Salaaman Alaiki sister,

                        "Ramadhan" comes from the root "Ra", "Ma" & "Dhad" or "RMDh" which means "Hottest".

                        "Shahru Ramadhan" means "Hottest month".

                        Thats it, I am not sure what exactly is the usage in Al-Quraan about the word "Ramadhan". I am still in search of it.

                        May Allah guide us all towards the correct path.

                        MMKhan

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                          Fadhli
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                          Salam all,

                          dunno about which one ramadhan is... but during the Hijri ramadhan, i noticed that the maghrib pray time is always about 30 minutes earlier at the first day, compared to other months. And it always hot here... (i'm at khatulistiwa )... the pattern is always like that... i guess sticking to Hijri (just as reference) is fine for me until i got other proofs...

                          Not sure how the month goes at North & south pole out there. I guess just stick to the hottest month u got... (hottest may even be -10 degrees ;D)

                          May Allah give mercy to us all... pr

                          Peace handshake

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                            farida
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                            Salaaman Alaiki sister,

                            "Ramadhan" comes from the root "Ra", "Ma" & "Dhad" or "RMDh" which means "Hottest".

                            "Shahru Ramadhan" means "Hottest month".

                            Thats it, I am not sure what exactly is the usage in Al-Quraan about the word "Ramadhan". I am still in search of it.

                            May Allah guide us all towards the correct path.

                            MMKhan

                            Salaam

                            Sun-day; does that mean that this is the only day to do with the sun. If it?s cloudy what do we do? Move it to a sunny day?
                            peace
                            BTW "Shahru" does not mean month

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                              mahtabkhan
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                              ??? ???

                              'Shahr' does not mean 'Month'? Than what does it mean to you?

                              In other matters it is good to stay till you get proofs. Please help with the meaning of 'Shahr'!

                              May Allah open our minds and hearts to understand what Allah want to say.

                              Allah Hafiz

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                                farida
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                                ==

                                ??? ???

                                'Shahr' does not mean 'Month'? Than what does it mean to you?

                                In other matters it is good to stay till you get proofs. Please help with the meaning of 'Shahr'!

                                May Allah open our minds and hearts to understand what Allah want to say.

                                Allah Hafiz

                                As for the meaning of "shahr" as "full moon", this meaning is given by Lisan Al-3arab. The same goes for the meaning of "ramadan" as "scorching".

                                This is a quote form Ayman ref
                                http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=12798.0

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                                  unknownuser
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                                  This is a quote form Ayman ref
                                  http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=12798.0

                                  Salaam sister
                                  If it is so then I would like to ask you or your mentor Ayman
                                  What is the arabic word for "Month" ??

                                  English - Arabic
                                  month noun one of the twelve named periods of time that a year is divided into

                                  http//dictionary.sakhr.com/idrisidic_2MM.asp?Lang=E-A&Sub=month

                                  Arabic - English

                                  ,
                                  make famous , convey to , report , state , announce , declare

                                  make famous , make well-known , make renowned

                                  month

                                  declaration , advertising , advert , annunciation , giving publicity to

                                  make well-known , make famous , make renowned

                                  http//dictionary.sakhr.com/idrisidic_2MM.asp?Lang=E-A&sub=

                                  (&#1585 . .

                                  The primary root meanings of sheen ,haa raa are
                                  -to clarify or brighten something
                                  From here the word "al ? shahr " is derived and that is in Arabic language "alhilaal" (Crescent) ,then all thirty days are called "al-hilaal" and these are also called "shahr" On it there is agreement between Arabs and non -Arabs

                                  Regards

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                                    maite
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                                    Salaamun Alaikum all,

                                    I think for those who are on North Poles, they can fast in the month from 12 months which is the least coldest. D

                                    Isn't that the hottest month (not for them, ok, but) comparing to other months?

                                    Just a thought.... Allah knows better.

                                    May Allah guide us all towards the correct path.

                                    Allah Hafiz

                                    MMKhan

                                    Peace to all

                                    I don?t konw about polar circles but there are places where the hotest month it?s only day. No night at all. Also places where the hotest month has may be 2 hours nigth... What about that?

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                                      unknownuser
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                                      Salam,

                                      I don?t konw about polar circles but there are places where the hotest month it?s only day. No night at all. Also places where the hotest month has may be 2 hours nigth... What about that?

                                      My question would be how many people are recorded as living in the areas? and of the number of people who live in the area how many are Muslims?

                                      Maybe we avoid living in those areas (either purposely or sub-consciously), in which case this wouldn't be an issue.

                                      Salam,
                                      Arnab

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                                        Alen
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                                        Peace, even though i believe in code 19 and 3 salats just like brother edip,

                                        Peace,
                                        Respectfully.

                                        Can you please provide proofs and evidences from the Quran about the 3rd prayer?
                                        Provide evidences and proofs of all three.
                                        Thank you.

                                        Glory be to our God.
                                        Peace.

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                                          Samia
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                                          Sorry for that ,it means North poles muslims are exempted from "Fasting" and those living on equator must 'fast" because they witness hot months.
                                          Divine justice !!!!!!!!!!

                                          If you cannot fast, not out of personal disability, don't but feed the poor instead. This also applies to the people in the poles verse 2184

                                          If you want to fast but can't becaue you are ill or travelling, fast other days
                                          If you annot fast but are physically able to, i,e (not sick nor travelling) "wa 3alal latheen yuTeequunahu" feed the poor

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