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No one likes negative things.
You kind of lost me, but don?t worry.
Sigh, code 19 I?m not sure about that. Me and maths don?t work well it sounds plausible but I have uncertainties, but I won?t go there.
I didn?t say Mahdi is authored nor Issa, just mentioned it.
?People support a system unknowingly sometimes. Not realizing the faults. Or sometimes forcefully to conceal their identity from vilifications they might get. No one likes to be targeted especially with little or no support?
People tend to do what they are brought up in, they are comforted into a system so they just do it. They blind follow traditional ways not realizing the faults not questioning because they think research has been done just accept the facts. Or society does things which may be perceived as normal so if you?re participating in the events thinking it?s a normal everyday thing then you could possible support a system of values/beliefs without realizing.
Sometimes people can?t open up about their beliefs. I wouldn?t towards my family even friends because they would act emotional and very badly. To secure my safety I say nothing. Besides I personally know of no one (in person) who agrees with me, or isn?t in favor of hadith. No one. Don?t you think that is sad, how do I support my views with the world against me? So I?d rather conceal and stay quiet.
I believe the word ?hijab? is in the Quran even Rania says it?s in the Quran 7 times. Veiling in an appropriate way is necessary, that may not mean or include head cover. I guess my culture does have influence hijab is more of a barrier or screen, but I was meaning khimar.
Hijab doesn?t = dress code, but khimar would have relation to clothing. I was actually told against wearing a scarf, and yes I am used to wearing it and I would feel uncomfortable without it. Though possibly I?d eventually get used to without it. I personally believe it is a form of modesty, which is ok in my logic.
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Another rainy daySigh, code 19 I?m not sure about that. Me and maths don?t work well it sounds plausible but I have uncertainties, but I won?t go there.
You writing shows the you are well educated and certainly you understand when we say 38 is multiple of 19 which means 38=19x2
380=19x20 ????.and 38??. 10 thousand zero = 19 x 2 ,10 thousand zero.
Simple to understand
Impossible to imitate.
No math no formula .?People support a system unknowingly sometimes. Not realizing the faults. Or sometimes forcefully to conceal their identity from vilifications they might get. No one likes to be targeted especially with little or no support?
People tend to do what they are brought up in, they are comforted into a system so they just do it. They blind follow traditional ways not realizing the faults not questioning because they think research has been done just accept the facts. Or society does things which may be perceived as normal so if you?re participating in the events thinking it?s a normal everyday thing then you could possible support a system of values/beliefs without realizing.
I agree with you and you are right but my belief is based on solid and standard measurement that do not belong to any belief but is a tool ?KEY? to path of facts and truth.
Sometimes people can?t open up about their beliefs. I wouldn?t towards my family even friends because they would act emotional and very badly. To secure my safety I say nothing. Besides I personally know of no one (in person) who agrees with me, or isn?t in favor of hadith. No one. Don?t you think that is sad, how do I support my views with the world against me? So I?d rather conceal and stay quiet.
I agree with you to appoint that you should not put yourself in danger but our birth and life is not in hand of those that do not agree with you.
The people you mention have changed dress code and life style and not living in tent and mud houses but in mansion and last model privileges but their mentality is no improved .
They have same mentality and force other to follow what they followed wrongly.
Here on this screen at least we are free transfer our information for those that can understand.
I remember one of young members left hadith but could not say No to his father asking him to join Friday prayer which is mixed with traditions not Quran.No matter how small we are and how big they are in the number. Day by day and one by one adding. .
I believe the word ?hijab? is in the Quran even Rania says it?s in the Quran 7 times. Veiling in an appropriate way is necessary, that may not mean or include head cover. I guess my culture does have influence hijab is more of a barrier or screen, but I was meaning khimar.
Hijab doesn?t = dress code, but khimar would have relation to clothing. I was actually told against wearing a scarf, and yes I am used to wearing it and I would feel uncomfortable without it. Though possibly I?d eventually get used to without it. I personally believe it is a form of modesty, which is ok in my logic.
If you use your hejab as a national customs is ok but link it to Quran is giving wrong message
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Yeh but where did 38 come from. Anyway it?s a topic that I?d need to sit down with someone and do and see myself. So don?t worry about explaining because I will just frustrate you.
Ignorance is everyone?s weakness, my major one. Uncertainty makes me uncomfortable so keeping quiet helps..
Thanks for sharing your thoughts )
Salam
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Peace Bahman,
Hmm, well thanks for the link, I do understand multiples of 19, even though I may need a calculator.. but there's other things that don't make sense, I guess I will learn through discovery and research hopefully.
Anyway thanks for your time )
Blessing of God be upon you
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That's great brother . And you were a Jewish , wow !! Yes you're right , very few Jewish convert to Islam . God bless you and keep you always on the right path.
As for praying in mosque , I can't see any problem to pray in any mosque , just follow the Imam . Nothing wrong , we all pray to Allah , even we have different view of things . Congregation prayer is good , don't limit yourself to certain rules . Happy to have you here. I'm new also to this site . First day for me. -
Peace and welcome )
I see you are new and have not read first post of this topic. I am just helping you to know the truth and fact. Is up to you which path you choose.very few Jewish convert to Islam
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Do you mean Islam in 319 or you mean Sunnis or Shai?As for praying in mosque , I can't see any problem to pray in any mosque ,
Which masque?
Sunnis, ShIa and their subsects?just follow the Imam .
Which Imam? Where in Quran find such verse follow Imam.?
Nothing wrong , we all pray to Allah ,
Allah , Mohmammed and if you are Shia , prophet daughter and another 12 imams waiting for 12th !!!!
even we have different view of things .
We cur heads of each other for such different views and we are naive tools in hand of clergies connected to different political power and war mongers due to such different views.Congregation prayer is good , don't limit yourself to certain rules . Happy to have you here. I'm new also to this site . First day for me.
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Which Imam? Where in Quran find such verse follow Imam.?What about Friday prayer , it's not written in the Quran to be in the mosque and in congregation ?!!
We cur heads of each other for such different views and we are naive tools in hand of clergies connected to different political power and war mongers due to such different views.
Well , we will always differ , even in your same sect of Quran alone you also differ .
And if thy Lord had willed, He verily would have made mankind one nation, yet they cease not differing,( 11-11 -
Peace All,
Thanks Brother Bahman for your points. I found it quite interesting how this thread I started turned out some very interesting conversations.
I don't need and Imam....I only need God and Quran. I can't go to a masjid where they invoke Muhammad in their prayers and preach hadith. God commands us NOT to pray in such a masjid.
There are those who abuse the masjid by practicing idol worship, dividing the believers, and providing comfort to those who oppose GOD and His messenger. They solemnly swear "Our intentions are honorable!" GOD bears witness that they are liars.
You shall never pray in such a masjid. A masjid that is established on the basis of righteousness from the first day is more worthy of your praying therein. In it, there are people who love to be purified. GOD loves those who purify themselves.I have downloaded all of RK's khutba's and was thinking I would take a break from work and view one each Friday. That is at least something. God willing, maybe one day I will meet more people like myself and we can get together on Friday's for Jumah.
As much as I wish there was a community of believers like myself where I live, I still feel blessed that I know the truth and that God is with me. I am also grateful for this site which has put me in touch with some wonderful people and I've made some great friends.
Peace and Blessings.
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7430 Over it is nineteen and thank you for your patinece.
You may like tose this file.
http//y19.net/19cycle.html
I wish good luck in our search and study.
Take care and see you again )
God Bless.
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7430 is refering to the number of Angels who are Garding "SuKer", and not to a Code that God made to protect the Quran. Your Code made you delete the Last Verses of Chapter 9; by doing so you are disblieveing the purity of the Quran that God promised to protect. Please read my view regarding Code 19 at
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16725.30
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7430 is refering to the number of Angels who are Garding "SuKer", and not to a Code that God made to protect the Quran. Your Code made you delete the Last Verses of Chapter 9; by doing so you are disblieveing the purity of the Quran that God promised to protect. Please read my view regarding Code 19 at
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16725.30
PeacePeace. )
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Peace All,
Thanks Brother Bahman for your points. I found it quite interesting how this thread I started turned out some very interesting conversations.
I don't need and Imam....I only need God and Quran. I can't go to a masjid where they invoke Muhammad in their prayers and preach hadith. God commands us NOT to pray in such a masjid.
I have downloaded all of RK's khutba's and was thinking I would take a break from work and view one each Friday. That is at least something. God willing, maybe one day I will meet more people like myself and we can get together on Friday's for Jumah.As much as I wish there was a community of believers like myself where I live, I still feel blessed that I know the truth and that God is with me. I am also grateful for this site which has put me in touch with some wonderful people and I've made some great friends.
Peace and Blessings.Peace dear brother Bob.
Your presence in thus forum and your cause for believing in God Alone Quran Alome specially to be an Ex Jew is sign of God and support for those that their hear beats only for God Alone and Quran Alone based on Solid Proof.
Please check your works here and let me know if is ok. ) ?
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Did you understand this? brickwall
PeaceYes, I do; but Be aware of God testing; do not think that because the last two verses of chapter 9 are not fitting with the Code, you should delete them. It is a test for you, as was for Rashad Kalifa.
The following is a quote from Hati (http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16725.15) regarding my post in Code 19' please read it
Sorry to bother you.
Thanks for your enlightening posts.You are right 19 Angels guarding Saker.
It's reallyQuote
a trial for unbelieversMy point here is even with Code 19 you can prove that 9128, 9129 is part of the Quran.
But its a trial to delve into it because God says "and none can know the forces of the Lord except He, and this is no other than a warning to mankind."God bless you.
Hati
Please note that he says that code 19 proves that 9-128, 129 are part from the Quran.
And even if it does not prove it, God words is enough proof for you, when he said he will guard the Quran.
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Yes, I do; but Be aware of God testing; do not think that because the last two verses of chapter 9 are not fitting with the Code, you should delete them. It is a test for you, as was for Rashad Kalifa.
The following is a quote from Hati (http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16725.15) regarding my post in Code 19' please read it
Sorry to bother you.
Thanks for your enlightening posts.You are right 19 Angels guarding Saker.
It's reallyQuote
a trial for unbelieversMy point here is even with Code 19 you can prove that 9128, 9129 is part of the Quran.
But its a trial to delve into it because God says "and none can know the forces of the Lord except He, and this is no other than a warning to mankind."God bless you.
Hati
Peace.
Please note that he says that code 19 proves that 9-128, 129 are part from the Quran.
And even if it does not prove it, God words is enough proof for you, when he said he will guard the Quran.
PeacePeace.
The only thing in this earthly glob infallible is God words in PURIFIED QUran based on 7430.
You ignored my reply when Hati mixed Human name GV of MOhammed which was human and fallible like all other prophets and messnger to God words Infallible and result is corrupted and work of Satan to fool those that can not understand Miracle and ignore it.
There is 46 cases with letters ,numbers , gv for those that know Arabic (Follower of Sunnah) and 16 cases pure numerical pattern understandable worl wide, No GV NO HUman Name JUst 114 chapters of Quran Numerical Properties .
IS not that enough for YOU.??????
Are you waitting GOd visit you Personaly?
How your mind is locked with false learning.?
Wake Up tommorow is alte.
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The only thing in this earthly glob infallible is God words in PURIFIED QUran based on 7430.
You ignored my reply when Hati mixed Human name GV of MOhammed which was human and fallible like all other prophets and messnger to God words Infallible and result is corrupted and work of Satan to fool those that can not understand Miracle and ignore it.
There is 46 cases with letters ,numbers , gv for those that know Arabic (Follower of Sunnah) and 16 cases pure numerical pattern understandable worl wide, No GV NO HUman Name JUst 114 chapters of Quran Numerical Properties .
IS not that enough for YOU.??????
Are you waitting GOd visit you Personaly?
How your mind is locked with false learning.?
Wake Up tommorow is alte.
Peace.I told you before, Guarding and protecting the Quran is God's Job; Only him! no angel, nor prophet, nor Messenger, nor you, nor Rashad Kalifa were asked by God to help him. And if you insist to do a Job that is not yours, you will go astray; I told you that before, and now; you will go astray, and you will make others go astray!!!
When I stand in front of God in the Judgment Day, I will till him that " I did not Listen to Bahman nor Rashad Kalifa because you (God) told me that you will guard the Quran"
Simple as that.
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I told you before, Guarding and protecting the Quran is God's Job; Only him! no angel, nor prophet, nor Messenger, nor you, nor Rashad Kalifa were asked by God to help him. And if you insist to do a Job that is not yours, you will go astray; I told you that before, and now; you will go astray, and you will make others go astray!!!
When I stand in front of God in the Judgment Day, I will till him that " I did not Listen to Bahman nor Rashad Kalifa because you (God) told me that you will guard the Quran"
Simple as that.
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It is God's design Rashad discovered. Can you understand?
57=19x3
7431 )
Peace.