I feel bad for the Kind Hearted Christians who actually Like and beleive in this Holiday... Meaning, I feel bad for them in a Genuinely Nice way...(Not being sarcastic or arrogant). Because, There is SO much "Evilness" that has made this Holiday so Commercialized and Immoral....Its like Society has Lost its "Respect" for Christmas, and Lost its True Spirit for it. (whether its a real or fake holiday)... For instance, I was watching a Commercial today about a Movie that is Coming out called "Its Complicated" what P***ed me off was that The movie is about a Love Triangle with a Divorced woman, who is In her sexual prime, and Loves a new man, but also Loves her Ex, and its all cooky crazy complicated sexual affairs going on... Well, this didnt make me ENTIERLY angry because there is always Stupid Movies like this and Sex and the City, Desperate Housewives, etc... But the real part that mad me mad was that It comes out on CHRISTMAS DAY! Out of ALL THE DAYS to come out. Its like, wow, Lets take the day that is Supposed to be about Family Values...and release this Movie about Sexual Affairs with Divorced Sexual Women. Yeah! thats REALLY family orientated. In fact, Everyone Please bring your family to see it on Christmas day...yeah.... yuck brickwall confused Oh, what is the world coming to?

Selam Totally agree with you, thats why when their calculations did not add up they try to fit their calculations in with unknowns which was effecting the calculations rather than reject the theory and go back to the blackboard. Peace Hope Well I'm not sure exactly which calculations you are referring to however the big bang theory and mainstream cosmology have made predictions which have later been shown to be observable in contrast to plasma cosmology which has not come up with any predictions. Most notably are the results from the COBE (Cosmic Background Explorer) mission. What yopu write reminds me of Einstein's blunder in adding an unknown to make the universe a steady state one as he couldn't imagine it was really expanding. The currently accepted theory of the Big Bang, the role of gravitation, dark matter etc. is simply the best explanation for the observable properties of the universe among all available alternatives including plasma cosmology.

Peace all, This a word by word translation to the bible and the Torah http//www.scripture4all.org

Peace, Respectfully. I've made several friends just by mentioning to them that The Quran confirms The Bible and also agrees on some points. I mean, people watch TV way too much. brickwall We need to think more. hmm Peace.

Why do you feel strongest then? Do you mean spiritually or physically? When you undereat/fast during the day, your SNS (sympathetic nervous system) kicks in and you become alert and feel like you're full of energy. On the other hand, if you eat too much (or eat like a 'normal person&#039 during the day, you will shut down the SNS and instead will activate the PSNS (parasympathetic nervous system). The SNS is automatically activated during the day to help your body cope with stress and to stay alert, and the PSNS is automatically activated during the night, which helps your body relax, digest and obtain the nutrients of the food you eat better. The growth hormone is at a peak during the night, that's why it's good to overeat at that time. Your body also has the cahnce to detoxify during the fast at daytime.

The title of this made me think of people going down on each other lol.

YIKES! Next thing, they'll have bacon flavored chicken... I wouldn't be surprised. ;D Reminds me of this Coming soon vegetarian chicken that tastes just like chicken!

Peace, respectfully. Well, their "religion" is this" killing the different. I see sunnis as borg from Star TrekThe Next Generation. I also think - God knows best - that the writers of the series have created this borg character on basis of sunnism. Think about it borg are these people from all over the universe, they use to be seperate individuals but now under the command of The Queen Borg, they all form one entity/being. And of course their opening and closing sentence is we are borg, you will be assimilated, resistance is futile. I ams ure that the writers based it on the basis of sunnis, i'm sure of it. Peace. bravo maybe you are right!

"Not all sunnis are bad" should actually be "not all people who claim to be sunni are true sunnis" Because true sunni's are bad. If they truly live by the hadith (which is impossible since it contradicts itself even in one slight aspect) then they would be doing MANY things which makes it impossible for them not to be bad, i.e. stoning people or killing them because they left their satanic cultish sect. Case in point, the sunnis that respect the above married spouses for who they are are not true sunni's. If they've heard that they "used to be sunni" and now are "God-alone, Quran alone" if they are true sunnis (shayateen) then they would kill them, like that. And wow, this thread got two pages filled in like a day. Nice... Sunnis generally believe that the authorities should decide that matter and not individuals and to be honest in the history of Sunni Islam persecuting people for apostasy was not very common. However we must also realize that there is a takfiri element among many Quranist and I have seen in this forum some of that. We must first define what is faith and what is disbelief from a Quranic standpoint and not based on personal conviction or reasoning. We must also identify what is shirk and who is a mushrik once again from the Quran. We must take our understanding from the Quran. We must be able to clear our own house from this poison called takfirism which divides people and instills on them hate and mistrust of each other. Nothing destroyed wahhabism than the culture of takfirism which led to various splits among them often leading to fighting and arguing with each other. This culture of takfirism is the most dangerous poison to any religious community. It destroys a religious community and causes disunity. It also has been talked about in the Quran. The Quran teaches unity among believers but how can there be unity among believers if each is accusing the other of disbelief? Is this disbelief based on a person's faith in God or is it based on something else? Is this disbelief based on a Quranic evidence or is it based on disagrreements with each other's views which often are speculations and personal reasonings very rarely attributed to any Quranic evidence? Once again the Quran should be the criteria. Another problem is the arguments about apostasy is usually shaped by Sunnis as being a question of treason and not personal religious conviction. They try to shape apostasy from Islam as an act of treason to the state and community. Then we must define what is a state and what is a community and what consistutes treason and what does not. This is a good counter since Sunnis generally shape their argumenst to a Western audience who usually are the ones critising them and Sunnis simply envoke the "what about you" arguments on the West. Many Western countries have harsh laws against state treason(Walker Lindh etc). So we must derive a definition about what is treason and what is not as a way to counter Sunni arguments. But my main fear is the culture of takfirism. Not long ago wahhabism was seen as a "progressive" movement especially in the 60s and 70s. Sufism was seen as regressive and filled with superstitions and not progressive. We all know what happened to that perception. But more than what they preach, takfirism has been the devil that surrounded the wahhabis from its earliest days and ended up destroying it in its later days. We must emphasize freedom as a way forward but more importantly we must root out the culture of takfirsm which will destroy the youth and spread discord and sectarianism among the activist and alienate the masses from the Quranist movement. Everything must be from the Quran and not based on personal conviction that is built on speculations. Its also odd that people speak out against wahhabism and yet many beliefs people have about what constitutes shirk and what is not is not based on any Quranic evidence or understanding of pagan religions but is based on arguments very similar to the wahhabis themselves! We have people who believe code 19 is shirk We have people who believe making tawwaf arround the ka'ba is shirk. Touching and kissing the black stone in the Ka'ba is shirk. Placing "Muhammad is the messenger" signs in mosques or homes is shirk. Believing that even the prophets can intercede for us is shirk. Believing in the power of healing of the Quran or visiting sufi sheikhs is shirk. People here complain about Zakir Naik being banned from making lectures when he said many Sunnis practice shirk, but ironically they also believe in the same stuff this wahhabi preaches and see nothing wrong with what he preaches when it comes to shirk! They agree with what he says but refuse to accept hadiths because they see that as problematic. This is the same reason why many Quranist attack the previous scriptures because they see in them the same things they see in Sunni hadiths. The Quran however sees the previous scriptures very differently from how they see it. This is why many Sunnis do not take many Quranist seriously is they see them as post modernist who only question hadiths to escape some of its legal traditions which they see as primitive or too harsh based on their personal convictions. They see the Quranist as a product of Western and secular pressures on Muslim societies and an attempt by some to try to "fit" the Western mindset and modern lifestyle and escape criticism. Thats a very dangerous perception and this perception is very common not only among Muslims but also Western elites. What Quranist should emphasize is the CONTRADICTIONS between the teachings of the Quran and Sunnism and how the Quran is self sufficient. But to do that we must adhere to the Quran in all matters and not just when it is convenient or when it agrees with our personal convictions. The Quran says many things we love can be harmful to us and many things we hate could be good for us. If the Quran is your source of guidance then rely on it for all your religious convictions and religious arguments and let the Quran worry about the consequences.

Salaam to all, I suggest the reading of what may be (it's hard to take a pick) the most beautiful passage of the Quran 5922 He is God beside whom there is no god. He knoweth things visible and invisible He is the Compassionate, the Merciful. 5923 He is God beside whom there is no god He is the King, the Holy, the Peaceful, the Faithful, the Guardian, the Mighty, the Strong, the Most High! Far be the Glory of God from that which they associate with Him! 5924 He is God, the Creator, the Maker, the Former. He hath most excellent names. Whatever is in heaven and earth praiseth Him And He is the Mighty, the Wise. Peace. Pierre That is beautiful, thank you

Peace, Respectfully. I remember new year's 1998. I was in germany with my relatives. I never even dreamt that one day World Trade center will collapse, that Saddam will be hanging out with US troops, literally, that Britney will shave her head, that i will be banned from London central Mosque for being a Muslim. How can we possibly know what will come next? Peace. That is true, we can never know what is in God's mind.

I meant that "dhikr" is spoken "zikr" - like when we say it with our mouths we say "zikr". P What's the root for "Dhikr"? Please write in the following format (example) Zay-Ka-Waw so that I can look it up on PRL. Thanks I write "Dh" to be pronounced as "the". I do not know how it shows on PRL. It's not the same letter as in zakaat (Zay Ka Wau). It's (Dhal Kaaf Re) or Zal Ka Re

I love this life. voodoo jedi angel pr >D giveup, Are they telling you what to do?