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  • It's no coincidence 19 is so important to Baha'is! It's related to code 19...
    T The_Khan

    Nomadic hunter gatherers -> Tribal nomads -> Settled tribes (villages), beginning of agriculture -> Alliance of tribes, building of city-states/minor kingdoms -> Feudal type societies (Persian satrapies being the earliest form) -> Unitary states -> Federations -> Inter-continental federations -> One world federation of nations -> ?

    It's all part of evolution. An intelligent organism (which is man) can no longer survive with today's technology if it continues to be at war with itself. As Albert Einstein said - "I don't know what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones".

    When it comes to the UNO, we're mainly involved in humanitarian work. We don't meddle with politics.

    Regarding our electoral system, we do not have campaigning and any form of partisanism. Voters elect people into the spiritual assemblies based on their character, rather than the money they received from a 'certain' organisation.

    Regarding currency, we do indeed support a single currency. However, the fines in the Kitab-i-Aqdas are based on a value of gold. So it's highly likely that the currency will be pegged to the gold standard with implementations to prevent hyperinflation, such as what happened in the Ming dynasty after the Yuan dynasty's fiat currency was abolished, or the mass inflation which followed when Thomas Jefferson refused to renew the second bank of America's license.

    I don't want to get into details, but I have spent nearly two years reviewing various conspiracy theories (from David Icke to Noreagaa films), and I do believe I have the right to call them rubbish.

    Good day.

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  • It's no coincidence 19 is so important to Baha'is! It's related to code 19...
    T The_Khan

    Meh, I don't believe in conspiracy theories. They're all rubbish. /

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  • It's no coincidence 19 is so important to Baha'is! It's related to code 19...
    T The_Khan

    You know, I never questioned the lashes law. It was, after all, a divine law.

    To me, society will progress to one based on love, and not of fear. It's called spiral dynamics, a psychological topic. This is my own personal interpretation.

    Hence, these laws will be irrelevant and rarely imposed, as society is bound to progress to one which prevents such acts from occurring, rather than punish them. The punishments will be imposed in rare cases when these acts actually do occur.

    Actually, if you keep committing the act over and over again, you will lose your voting rights, not to mention your standing in the community.

    The Baha'i faith also has a number of economic policies unique which will tackle all the setbacks of capitalism and socialism.

    To us society is changing because of the revelation. It is an expected outcome, and has already occured in the past. Ever looked into what Roman society was before Christianity spread, or Arab polytheistic society before Islam?

    Baha'u'llah revealed concepts such as equality of men and women, complete literacy and education, human rights, abolition of slavery, when these topics were not discussed in most parts of the west (except slavery, which was now practiced mainly in South America), let alone the middle east. In fact, the last country to abolish slavery was Mauritania in 1980, and slavery continues to persist in Sudan and Mali to this day, albeit in secret. Two million children are enslaved in the sex trade all over the world.

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  • It's no coincidence 19 is so important to Baha'is! It's related to code 19...
    T The_Khan

    It's a fine, not a tax. The main purpose of it, according to Abdul Baha, is to let the public know about the shameful act. The monetary value is irrelevant.

    Backbiting and gossip are strictly forbidden, hence, this fine seeks to bring the incident to public knowledge without these two shameful acts also taking place.

    In this day and age, 90 lashes is considered a violation of human rights, but it was a perfect punishment during prophet Muhammad's time, judging as per how barbaric society was back then. For example, did you know that unmarried adulterers in China were punished by being locked in a basket, and killed by being thrown into a river or pond?

    Similar to how that law was less harmful than other punishment methods, this law is considered by us as ideal for this dispensation. It beats western laws on adultery, which encourage it and promote the expansion of harmful STD's, teenage pregnancies, etc.

    Regarding women leaders, the Baha'i faith encourages the participation of women in all fields of development, including administration. In the tablets to the rulers of the world, Baha'u'llah praised Queen Victoria for being a strong leader who allotted human rights to her citizens. Abdul Baha has said that if more women would rule, the world would be at peace, and would have tremendous development.

    Women are allowed to be elected to all Baha'i institutions, except the 9-member Universal House of Justice. Abdul Baha has made it clear that the reason for this will be clear and evident in the future.

    Ie, once a Baha'i government is established in a given country, the National Spiritual Assembly is encouraged to elect a female ruler, as the Baha'i writings give importance to women in administration and education. For instance, if a family cannot afford to educate all of its children, it is necessary to educate the female children first, as women are the first educaters in a family.

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  • It's no coincidence 19 is so important to Baha'is! It's related to code 19...
    T The_Khan

    I'm aware of their involvement with Kaballah. I however, do not agree with the 'Occultism' - to me, Kaballah is just a sufi version of Judaism. Nothing else.

    I bid you a good day as well. )

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  • It's no coincidence 19 is so important to Baha'is! It's related to code 19...
    T The_Khan

    In that case, divine revelation should have revealed by Abraham, and Abraham alone, right? If revelation was constantly the same, there wouldn't have been any need for other revelations.

    I've already explained on how irrelevant the topic of symbols really is.

    The Baha'i faith has been based in the Holy Land since the days of Baha'u'llah. He was exiled to the Ottoman Empire by the Shah of Iran, then the Caliph of the Ottoman Empire exiled him to the prison-city of Akka. During this period, the remains of the Bab were transferred to the holy land, and his resting place lies on mount Carmel. When the governor of Akka relaxed Baha'u'llah's terms of imprisonment, he went to the foothills of Mount Carmel and revealed the tablet confirming the establishment of the future UHJ, thereby fulfilling a major biblical prophecy. Ever since that period, the Baha'i faith has been firmly established in the holy land, regardless of which regime controlled the territory, whether it was the the Ottoman Empire, the British mandate of Palestine, or the state of Israel. We don't engage in partisan politics, and respect the laws of the countries where we reside.

    Where was no 'Israel' back then, and the very topic of 'Zionism' was unheard of. However, since 1844, the Ottoman Empire did allow European Jews to 'emigrate' to the holy land, once again fulfilling major Islamic/Biblical prophecies.

    Muhammad fulfilled his duty and ended the tyranny of the tribes of Arabia. Islam expanded and introduced science and civilisation to the world. The fruits of Islam established themselves rendering powerful Islamic Empires which bought culture and prosperity.

    Where is that now? Just like how Christianity collapsed and ushered in the dark ages in Europe, the same has happened to the Islamic world. You have groups like the militants of Somalia, who stone rape victims to death, ruining the beautiful name of Islam. You have groups like the submitters, who assert that only those who believe in their numerology are free from shirk. You have the Ayatollahs of Iran, who pass fatwas allowing prison guards to rape victims as torture, who break every known ordinance in the Qur'an. You have groups on the internet, trying to link symbols and structures to Satan, cursing and vilifying certain individuals like Madonna, who has done many charitable activities for the poor in many countries. Again, not one of these people have implemented a single teaching of the Qur'an, not even the simple forms of etiquette http//www.free-minds.org/etiquette

    I went on a personal quest to find a single Muslim who follows the teachings of the Qur'an. I found many of them. They call themselves Baha'is.

    Khan, tell me about the Meetings.

    Is this True Or Hearsay, that in the Bahi faith there are Confedential meetings in which you must meet with a Master/teacher to perhaps advise you on certain aspects of the Religion? have you heard of these types of Confedential/Secrete Meetings?

    If so, why would they have to be Secrete?

    Utter rubbish!

    We have devotional meetings. We meet, in groups, pray, discuss the holy writings, and perhaps eat if the host has invited us for dinner. There's no clergy or such in the Baha'i faith. I personally have contacted the Universal House of Justice regarding the use of a particular controversial medicine. One of our LSA members was a close friend of many important early Baha'i figures, including the wife of the guardian.

    Also, regarding the state of Israel, we don't engage in any politics. We are, however, concerned for human rights, and strive to help oppressed people in all countries regarding of nationality. We help by providing aid, many Baha'i-inspired NGOs such as the Tahirih foundation help female victims who are abused all over the world, etc.

    I find the topic of Israel to be fascinating. While the state of Israel was responsible for 1,141 civillian deaths in the 2006 Lebanon war, nobody commented on 280,000 dead in the Darfur genocide. Muslims killing black-skinned Muslims, and no major response from any Islamic country.

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  • It's no coincidence 19 is so important to Baha'is! It's related to code 19...
    T The_Khan

    Ah, I suspected that you derived your views from The Arrivals and nooreaga films in general. I was one of the first to be introduced to The Arrivals. ^^

    I understand your points of view, although I can't agree with them.

    To answer your questions - no, there is no idol worship of any form in the Baha'i faith. We try to detach ourselves and dedicate our souls to becoming closer to God, not letting the changes and chances of the world affect us. We do, indeed, consider Baha'u'llah to be the hidden mystery and the key to unlocking the secrets of divine oneness. However, we do not seek 'intercession' as in how many Muslims perform tawassul. We truly attempt to become nearer and closer to God, alone and in privacy.

    However, this does not mean that this will persist forever. A thousand years after Baha'u'llah, a new manifestation will come, expanding existing concepts, changing laws and practices, etc, and his teachings will shock Baha'is in general as in how Baha'u'llah's teachings have shocked Muslims and members of other faiths.

    All attempts at dividing the Baha'i faith have miserably failed. The largest group, the 'Orthodox Baha'is', have merely a few dozen active members. Unlike other dispensations of the past, sectarianism will never be an issue with Baha'is.

    I personally find the descriptions of the Baha'i faith in Islamic forums to be hilarious - they are poorly researched and without any justification. It's like how Christians continue to portray Islam as a moon-worshiping cult despite all attempts at debunking those myths.

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  • It's no coincidence 19 is so important to Baha'is! It's related to code 19...
    T The_Khan

    Thanks for your warm compliments.

    To be honest, the Baha'i faith teaches that religion, at its core, is the same. With every new dispensation, the laws, practices, and interpretations change depending on the social situation. This means that the Baha'i faith is indeed Islam - just a new form of it, like how Islam was a new form of monotheism as revealed by Jesus Christ.

    Regarding 'manifestation' and Muhammad, the method of revelation from Muhammad was just the same as Baha'u'llah, with the difference that the angelic figure, Gabriel (what was the burning bush for Moses and the maid of heaven for Baha'u'llah) took human form in most instances. However, in other periods, this is how prophet Muhammad received revelation (I read it in Martin Lings book) Sometimes it cometh unto Me like the reverberations of a bell, and that is the hardest upon Me; the reverberations abate when I am aware of their message.

    And this is how Baha'u'llah described the coming of revelation During the days I lay in the prison of Teheran through the galling weight of the chains and the stench-filled air allowed Me but little sleep, still in those infrequent moments of slumber I felt as if something flowed from the crown of My head over My breast, even as a mighty torrent that precipitateth itself upon the earth from the summit of a lofty mountain. Every limb of My body would, as a result, be set afire. At such moments My tongue recited what no man could bear to hear.

    Hence, they were both manifestations. People usually misunderstand the word manifestation as 'incarnation'. Both are different terms. The oxford dictionary describes 'to manifest' as 'to make clear and evident'. The Baha'i understanding of the term 'manifestation of God' implies a human being who is so completely pure, that he perfectly reflects God's beauty to this world.

    Regarding judgement day, we believe it has passed. It only depicts the chaos which occurs in the world (which has been happening since the Bab's dispensation), the mindless hate on the grounds of religion & sectarianism, apart from other reasons, and the growth of irreligion, of immorality. The signs such as 'Heaven and Earth shall be split asunder' are symbolic for this chaos, and resurrection of bodies implies resurrection of souls (explained here http//bahai-library.org/unpubl.articles/resurrection.html )

    And no, there's no such message which says that 'this is the last revelation'. The only aya I know of is regarding Muhammad being the last Nabi. On the other hand, I found 33% of the Qur'an implying the advent of Baha'u'llah. There's a book called - Baha'u'llah the Great announcement of the Qur'an. You might find it interesting if you wish to read it.

    I apologise for my incoherant English, I'm not feeling well today. I must share this nice video I discovered today, which introduces the Baha'i faith in a clear manner http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-nC-1AF_fM&feature=related

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  • It's no coincidence 19 is so important to Baha'is! It's related to code 19...
    T The_Khan

    RA786, I smiled reading your post, for it reminded me of what I was a few years ago. )

    No, we absolutely do not consider Dr Rashad Khalifa to have anything to do with revelation. Nor do we consider Dr Dahesh, Sri Sathya Sai Baba, Osho, Amma, or any other such figures to have anything to do with divinity.

    The Baha'i faith is a completely new and independent religion. It is as different from Islam as Christianity is from Judaism.

    The pillars you are talking about are found in only one house of worship - the one in Wilmette, Illinois. The architect choose that particular design to promote the oneness of religion. We don't look at symbols in anyway apart from them representing a particular faith. We are very well aware that symbols denote constellations, the Sun, pagan elements, etc. However, to us, it is an irrelevant topic. In the Baha'i faith, we use our symbols mainly to differentiate ourselves from other religions.

    The Lotus Temple, for example, has been built in the shape of a Lotus, to reflect Indian culture. Does this imply that we promote idolatry inside this house of worship? Of course not. It is strictly forbidden.

    For example, we all know denotes the name of God. However, some claim that the Arabic form of this word was inspired by the Hindu/Zoroastrian trident, as depicted in this fire temple http//www.pbase.com/rlankenau/image/48867474

    Does that by any chance mean that the name of God is an occult form of fire worship?

    I club all of these allegations as nonsense. I never take any of these things seriously. I mean no offense, but on this website, I only found Layth's article on Islamic etiquette to be of any value.

    The main essense of religion is to unite. If religion is the cause of disunity, then there's no need for religion. This is what Baha'u'llah has taught.

    We don't argue about whether this ritual is wrong or correct, whether reciting a messenger's name in prayer is incorrect or so on. It's all irrelevant mumbo-jumbo.

    Sure, code 19 is a great miracle. However, if a person claims that he/she will go to heaven merely for recognising this miracle and does things which are contrary to faith, then prophet Muhammad would have spent only a few minutes talking about 19 and returned back to managing Khatijah's business. There would have been no need for him and the early believers to have been persecuted to such great extents.

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  • It's no coincidence 19 is so important to Baha'is! It's related to code 19...
    T The_Khan

    Salaam Khan,

    Wasalaam RS786 )

    If I may Ask you.....

    Sure, you may. )

    1. How far were you into the Bahi faith?

    Like I said, I've been a Baha'i for 20 Baha'i months. To be exact, I've been a Baha'i since Febuary 28, 2009.

    1. Are you Still aparty of the Bahi faith?

    I'm a strong believer in the Baha'i faith, and everyday, my love for the cause grows stronger and stronger.

    1. Does the Bahi Faith Practice Quran Alone?

    The Baha'i faith is an independent religion with its own laws and practices suited for this day and age (and for the next 850+ years to come). If you mean 'Qu'ran alone' as in monotheism, the Baha'i faith has expanded the concept of God, the afterlife, etc. If you mean Qur'an alone as in the rituals and practices as mentioned in the Qur'an or explained by Rashad Khalifa - no, the laws of the Qur'an have been changed for this dispensation, just like how prophet Muhammad did not hesitate to change the Qiblah to Mecca and abolished many laws and practices of pagan Arabia.

    I dont mean to Offend you. If you remember me saying in yearlier post....I dont have much evidence to support my biasm against the Bahi faith. That may sound very ignorant, however.... I value the bahi faith as I would Freemasonry, 5 percenters, Nation of Islam, Ahmyayydiah, or any other religion/sect that is remotly close to the idea of having a NewQuran or A Physical Manifestation of Allah, or a Prophet after Muhammad.

    Baha'u'llah is not a 'physical manifestation'. An explanation to this concept is explained by Baha'is everywhere, a single google search and selection of a non-biased source will suffice.

    All of the above seem to be remotly close to one of those Idea's.

    Depends how you see it. To me prophet Muhammad was the last Nabi, but not the last Rasool. There's a huge margin of difference between the two terms.

    I think there is Occultism in the Bahi faith as I would in any other religion. even Sunnism has some Occtuic symbolism.

    As in symbols and numbers? It's not important to Baha'is, they're mainly symbolic. For example, I wear a ring with the ringstone symbol to remind myself to follow the teachings of the faith in public.

    As I pointed out, I think the Architecture of the Bahi temple, the Oblisk, and the Bahi Star are Occultic. I think Even the vary consept of a Human God is Occultic.

    It's just architecture. Nothing special about it. Architects choose to build according to the numbers of the faith like how Muslims prefer to build minarets over mosques. We both know minarets are not strictly binding - neither is the number 9.

    As for the concept of God in the Baha'i faith, we are taught that God is unseeable, unknowable, he is the most manifest of the manifest, yet most hidden of the hidden.

    I havent seen any of your Acts so....I wouldnt say you were posses by jinn. However, I think that many religious Figures who have talent in certin things may infact be possessed by jinn to do those things.

    The Baha'i faith teaches that Jinns/Satan are the evil in mens minds, and that prophet Muhammad taught this concept in such a fashion as the illiterate people of the middle east were not ready to completely abolish their pagan beliefs.

    Abdullah Hashim calls them "dajjals". Such as the guy who can turn Gold into his hand from thin air. Usually these People start their own religions and have their own followers. ..... I wonder what amazing talents Bahhilah did in order to be reocognized...Givin the fact that he is said to be the Physical Manifestation of God.

    No Muslim, whether submitter or hadithist, disagrees with Muhammad's saying that the Qur'an is his miracle. The same applies with the Baha'i faith - the miracle is the revelation. You can read about Baha'u'llah to find out about his life.

    I mean thats a pretty hefty title to bear....He must have shown the people some sort of amazing show.

    Being born into a rich noble family, giving up his riches for the poor, suffering imprisonment in a dungeon with a 40 kg chain around his neck for following the Bab, being exiled far away from his home and imprisoned in the worst of prison cities for proclaiming the cause of God. That's his amazing show, in brief.

    Do you believe he is the manifestation of God?

    100%, as were Muhammad and the other messengers before him and the Bab.

    Sorry, But I dont think God can Manifest into a Human. "Cant" in the sense that it would be a logical Fallacy due to the fact that God is Unlimited...therefore cannot be in a state of limitation.

    Everyone is free to his own beliefs.

    There is no compulsion in religion - The Qur'an.

    @Seattletruth Your comments on the Bab are incorrect. He claimed to be the promised Qa'im, and the gate to he who'm God shall make manifest.

    The manifestations write in two patterns - one in which they are totally submissive to their Lord, humble and pure. The other pattern of writing are the words of God, which are channeled through their human bodies.

    Also, many of the phrases you have copy-pasted from Baha'i awareness (yes, indeed, I did read this website before becoming a Baha'i) are poorly (or rather, purposely) mis-translated to satisfy the whims and fancies of Hojjatieh, the anti-Baha'i organisation which funds that website. Just for your information, Hojjatieh is responsible for numerous murders of innocent Baha'is in Iran.

    Unfortunately, I can't answer any more questions today due to personal reasons. You are, however, free to independently investigate the Baha'i faith from non-biased sources.

    I wish you all a good day. )

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  • It's no coincidence 19 is so important to Baha'is! It's related to code 19...
    T The_Khan

    I'm an ex-conspiracy nut, an ex-follower of Rashad Khalifa, and been a Baha'i for a little over 20 Baha'i months.

    There's nothing occult I've come across apart from the superstitious claims of certain Islamic conspiracy theorists. We are strong believers in the harmony of science and religion. Intellectual reasoning and faith go hand in hand.

    On the other hand, a follower of Khalifa on this very forum claimed that I'm posessed by Satan and Jinns when I said I'm a high-functioning autistic individual (this was back when I first became a submitter).

    That is perfectly logical reasoning, right?

    Back in my Sunni days, I met an American Jew who argued with me that Muslims copied everything from the old testament and created Islam.

    Will you choose to harbour the same resentment and narrow-minded attitude towards Baha'u'llah?

    Cheers. )

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  • Peace, aspie from India here!
    T The_Khan

    Peace,

    Yes, I have been diagnosed. I've mentioned it a couple or so times in this thread.

    Anyway, this is my farewell post. I'm considering becoming a member of the Baha'i faith.

    Btw, Mr Deen has added me on facebook. If anyone's interested, you may add me through him.

    Peace.

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  • Racism
    T The_Khan

    Greetings,

    Whoever works good does so for himself, and whoever works evil will suffer it. Then to your Lord you will be returned. (4515)

    God has made it clear that they were preferred over others during that time, as they were least likely to corrupt the faith of submission compared to other people in that era. The corruption into Judaism began during the Rabbinic era, when the Talmud, their version of Sunnah and Hadith (Mishnah and Gemara), was composed. I believe that the Torah was also corrupted during this period.

    As for those who are mentally challenged (please don't use the word 'retarded', it's politically incorrect) and physically challenged,

    Or did you expect that you would enter Paradise, while the example of those who were before you came to you; they were stricken with adversity and hardship, and they were shaken until the messenger and those who believed with him said "When is God's victory?" Yes indeed, God's victory is near. (2214)

    Life is a test. God gives us all a different test depending on situation.

    Peace.

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  • What was the one thing that made you come to Quran Alone Islam?
    T The_Khan

    That's great! I'm glad my discussions there had some effect, unlike that in Sunni forums... I just get a threat of banishment for "advocating heresy". )

    Peace.

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  • What was the one thing that made you come to Quran Alone Islam?
    T The_Khan

    Stani, what it shiachat? Was it the Tehran thread? That was me over there (who advocated free-minds). sun

    Btw, stoning is the main reason I follow the Qur'an, the Qur'an alone, and nothing but the Qur'an. Of course, I do believe there is a little truth in hadeeth.

    Peace.

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  • Is it just me or is the number of views in forum very large compare to posts
    T The_Khan

    got to a admit im a lurker too, just read no time to post rotfl
    no actually i think you are right its funny, i can imagine them,shaking there heads nope 2a3othzo billah 2a3othzo billah rotfl rotfl

    Reminds me of that time in Jeddah, my cousin sister didn't wear a hijab (she was 9 years old at that time), and this old Arab man came up and shouted "LA HOWLA WA LA QUWATA"! I'd imagine they'd do the same here. rotfl

    Peace.

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  • Peace, aspie from India here!
    T The_Khan

    Dear akhee,

    I'm also trying to tell you something. You are summarising AS as a disease caused due to posession of Jinns & the devil when it's a neurobiological disorder which begins from childbirth. Would you call dyslexia as posession by the devil? Dyspraxia? How about Downs syndrome? How about multiple scelerosis? Please don't mix religion with science.

    Please think about it.

    As for my sexual orientation, I'm perfectly straight. I find it very hard to lie. I'm a terrible liar. Online, however, I've never tried to do so.

    I would refer this book to you, please read it before jumping to conclusions http//www.amazon.com/Genius-Genes-Asperger-Talents-Changed/dp/1931282447

    These are videos of Temple Grandin, the most famous aspie alive today. Her gift is the ability to understand the function of an animal's brain, particularly cattle.

    http//in.youtube.com/watch?v=46ycu3JFRrA

    http//in.youtube.com/watch?v=f-iy7GNsmm0

    http//in.youtube.com/watch?v=QDWH_Sfnoc0

    http//in.youtube.com/watch?v=Epwa0zQ8jx8

    http//in.youtube.com/watch?v=aidkSBsyDlA

    Honestly akhee, nobody would like being told that they're posessed by the devil and jinns.

    Peace.

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  • Peace, aspie from India here!
    T The_Khan

    The Khan,

    I think you should get a professional opinion. It could be that you exhibit all the signs of someone with Asperger's syndrome only because you've convinced your subconscious you have it. I'm not saying you don't; all I'm saying is you should go see a doctor before you conclude you have Asperger's syndrome. And go to at least two doctors. Forgive me if this sounds forward, but it could be that you want to have Asperger's syndrome because smart men like Einstein had it.

    Yes, I have been diagnosed by a few psychologists and psychiatrists. Only one misdiagnosed me with Schizoid Personality Disorder. I even consulted a naturopath-psychologist.

    As for Michael Fitzgerald's conclusion on Einstein, it's something I recently found out.

    I was programming at the age of 8. Before that, I also had the talent of being able to almost immediately play on the livingroom keyboard/organ, melodies I had heard on the radio. And ability to perfom when expected, well, one can be inspired and not. This is all normal. It is not a sign of aspergers. It may be a sign of a child with blessings.

    I talked to someone else who I later was told, had aspergers.
    She was not able to understand certain culturual humour, and typically seemed to have a sexual undertone in almost everything she did. At times, she even claimed me to be her father, and that I had even raped her. She also claimed to be satan at some point, didn't see any wrong with claiming that, and often claimed religion was bad, without really seeming to think about the actual religion, but that someone who claimed to be religious, had treated her, by her opinion, badly. I think this was her father, but if she was a victim of paedophilia I don't know. She also seemed to be a compulsive liar, and made up quite a few stories about me, to other people, who where in this IRC channel, where I met her.

    This ofcourse, is an illness. But I also see a strong connection to jinn here. She was very similar to the girl in my teens, where I went to school. She was always the class clown, and never serious. And always "in love" with someone, and probably a teacher, and making things embarrasing.

    While this girl with aspergers, didn't act like her, she reminded me of her, in other ways. And it was typically that, of being an enemy to conservative religious values.
    So yes, if aspergers is an illness, that would be a symptom. To be blessed, is ofcourse not an illness.

    So, if we are to rule out whether this illness is mostly related to spirits, and can be remedied, or if it is phsyiological, and needs medification, or maybe even surgery, I asked you, have you tried strong religious morality, and behaviour, in your surroundings, and do you feel different about groups, if they are of strong belief or not.

    In any case, you should try God alone, and Quran alone.
    Aspergers to me, seems related to that of not being religious, or spirits, by my experiences.
    And if you become firm in your belief, your consciousness of God, will increase. And that will, maybe, through time, totally annihilate this enemy spirit.

    Peace

    Wow, what a strange girl. No wonder you have this misconception on AS. I've come across all sorts of Aspies - Perverts, Communists, Anarchists, Feminists, Facists, Sexists, Homosexuals, etc. Aspies are just like all others, apart from the mentioned diagnosis. Paranoia is not part of AS.

    It's possible that she's got post traumatic stress syndrome coexisting with her AS. Or maybe she has Schizoid Personality Disorder and was misdiagnosed with AS. God (swt) knows.

    And please stop calling Autism as satanic... i find it rather annoying, thanks.

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  • Peace, aspie from India here!
    T The_Khan

    I do apologise for the misunderstanding. We're uniquely gifted in our own ways, bad at everything else. ^^;;

    For example, two other cousins of mine also have AS. One is a 3 yr old who can operate a computer (he can barely speak). He uses it to watch videos of Shahrukh Khan. xD

    The other cousin of mine has a unique talent throught which he can imitate any song using his piano by hearing it just once. He's terrible at everything else. I'm also terrible at everything else which I'm not interested in. For example, my Mass Communication lecturer is the editor-in-chief of a newly launched magazine. He likes my writing skills and asked me to write an article on the Araku valley. I had gone there previously to study the local culture and landscape, and fell in love with the valley. I put my heart out into writing that article. He loved it. He asked me to write an article on the "two most happening events in the city, country, and world". 3 days have passed since my deadline and I've been unable to write a single word. brickwall

    I imagine the same applies to eminent people with AS as well. Einstein, Newton, Hitler, Grandin, Beethoven, etc. Only good at what they're interested in. Einstein & Newton with physics, Hitler with politics, Grandin with animals, Beethoven with music.

    Peace.

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  • Peace, aspie from India here!
    T The_Khan

    Asperger syndrome has nothing to do with religion. It's a neurobiological disorder. I don't see any connection. However, from what I've noticed among other aspies, nearly all of us critically examine religion.

    I usually don't bother about religion when in a group. I don't ask people about their religious background, since India's a very diverse country with many religions (Hinduism is an umbrella term for many Dharmaic faiths), not to mention hundreds of castes.

    Anyway, like I said earlier, I was an atheist. I don't look down upon people with "lesser intelligence", I just believe that I'm good only at what I'm interested in. Nothing religious about it, but I do like studying religions.

    Peace.

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