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The evolution of soul as explained within a poem by Rumi I died to the mineral state and became a plant, I died to the vegetal state and reached animality, I died to the animal state and became a man, Then what should I fear? I have never become less from dying. At the next charge (forward) I will die to human nature, So that I may lift up (my) head and wings among the angels, And I must (also) jump from the river of (the state of) the angel, Everything perishes except His Face, Once again I will become sacrificed from (the state of) the angel, I will become that which cannot come into the imagination, Then I will become non-existent; non-existence says to me (in tones) like an organ. Truly, to Him is our return. -- Jalalaldin Muhammad Rumi, Masnavi

Dear All, I would like to ask a question about my own understanding of Jesus as a messenger of God. I have this sort of feeling that his teachings or the time he came to spread the message, was perhaps to spread the message of peace and harmony and present God as only mercy and forgiving. In his teachings for example such as if some one strike your once cheek, let him strike the others, pray for those who persecute you and similar verses may suggest that he came after a set of prophets (who were sent as warning prophets and their nations were destroyed with Gods punishment for disobeying the message). At least I know very little about his story, where did he get married, his kids, his life story, perhaps he died early. There is very less information about him but it appears that he was the softer version among all Gods messengers. For example even in Quran 5118 If You punish them, they belong to You after all.1 But if You forgive them, You are surely the Almighty, All-Wise.” I mean here Jesus was quoted in this verse saying to Almighty to forgive those who took him and his mother as deities (which is an unforgivable act as per Quran 448 and 4116). Likewise the following videos of John 811 https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5GXnM_TxSQ&t=66s Mark 1228-34 https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=db-lE_f2U5I&t=10s Having said above, don't you think that in todays time we need Jesus teachings to be spread more in context of peace, harmony and forgiveness. Rather than taking a hard version of Religion? Of course Jesus is NOT the son of God (biologically), however certain Quranists do believe that he had a father as well just like regular folks but thats another discussion. thanks Peace The goal should be to raise sincerity towards Goodness/Truth/God and destroy insincerity towards Goodness/Truth/God. This can happen by turning the other cheek or by brutally punishing someone. Some illnesses/diseases require treatments that are brutal. Some diseases need to be outright destroyed. Others require something simple. People are different. Some are more good/evil than others. What it takes to reconcile/destroy/sacrifice evil for the greater good, is something that none know as well as God. God knows what we reveal and what we hide. He coordinates to ensure best results. We don't have all the information to see why it's perfection for that person to suffer or for that person to be happy. We should acknowledge our weaknesses/limitations and strengths. Some things we know (a triangle has three sides, God/Existence is Perfect), some things we have an educated guess on (that person is probably sad because her camera broke), some things we have no idea (why did that child die in the burning building?). Us being limited in knowledge, does not mean there is not a perfect answer or reason. Peace

https//misconceptions-about-islam.com/misconception.php?id=4 Misconception No freedom of religion Background Some think that in Islam there is no freedom of religion allowed. For example, residents of a Muslim country or under Islamic law are not allowed to practice their own faith. The Quran states, in no uncertain terms, that there is no compulsion in religion Let there be no compulsion in religion Truth stands out clear from Error whoever rejects evil and believes in God has grasped the most sure hand-hold, that never breaks. And God is Hearing, Knowing. Each to their own way "Nor will I serve what you serve, Nor will you serve what I serve, To you is your system, and to me is my system." This is a reminder, so let he who wishes take a path to his Lord. The Quran states that God could have made all those on earth believe, thus asks who is man to enforce such a thing if God did not And if your Lord had pleased, surely all those who are in the earth would have believed, all of them; will you then force men till they become believers? Again, reminding us not to compel but simply warn by means of The Quran, with wisdom and kind words We know best what they say, and you are not one to compel them; therefore remind by means of The Quran who fears My warning. You shall invite to the path of your Lord with wisdom and kind words, and debate with them in the best possible manner. Your Lord knows best who has strayed from His path, and He knows best who are the guided ones. Interestingly, all examples in The Quran of persecution due to faith are as a threat from non-believers and tyrants against believers . Thus it could be argued a trait of an ignorant society is no freedom of religion. And lastly, a proof beyond doubt, is that The Quran itself states anyone compelled or forced to believe or admit to something under duress is invalid with God Whoever rejects God after having believed; except for one who is forced while his heart is still content with belief; and has opened his chest to rejection, then they will have a wrath from God and they will have a great retribution. Thus, no enforcement of faith can take place in a society governed by the laws of The Quran. Please also read chapter 9 in which the believers of the time were living side by side with polytheists (i.e. those who associate partners with God). Also the numerous examples of the presence of Jews and Christians with the muslims of the time.

Peace Thank you for the detailed answers. 'In short, the good live a more beautiful and paradisiacal life in this world than the bad. But some good people also have some bad sides. They pay for them with some hardships in this world and with a lower rank in paradise.' But if that's so, then why do we see people like the Kardashians living life with ease esp. financially? I mean, I'm not saying they're evil people. They have a good side and everything isn't so black and white but we know people who are believers and aren't living as easily? Or other celebrities etc. Only Allah knows who will be in paradise and who will be in hell. Yes, the good live a more beautiful and paradisiacal life in this world than the bad. But some good people also have some bad sides. They pay for them with some hardships in this world and with a lower rank in paradise. This is an indisputable fact. The important point here is that outsiders cannot know exactly who lives a happier and paradisiacal life. There is a person's inner peace, happiness, health, unique blessings and many other factors. Let's take Pharaoh. Although he was a bad person, he had some virtuous and good qualities and he was rewarded for this by living in luxury and fame in the world. Even in religious books and religious movies, his fame is increasing day by day. But he may be troubled in his inner psychology, he may have a very busy working life and so he may actually be living like a poor person, and he may be even poorer than the middle class person of today because he does not have the technological blessings of today.And in the last years of his life he suffered disasters. So overall he lived a more troubled life than a good person.

There is something I wanna add which is perhaps what we talked here is nothing compared to the sufferings and injustices that humans inflict upon fellow humans. Forget the past where slavery was legal, even in todays time we have modern day slavery be it building the Olympics 2022 and the conditions of the labors who were hired to construct or be it exploitation by rich countries over poor ones (things like global warming, carbon emission), list goes on. These are caused by man and as such we all will be held accountable in HIS court some day as to what we did. So yes at one end am worried and disturbed by what i shared at start of my thread but now am equally or more overwhelmed by the atrocities humans inflict upon other humans which actually dwarf the comments you made for Sulieman or Yousef or likes. hence there is a schema of God which is test us, held us responsible and accountable for. Cheers Brother Fusion to increase our understanding of reality we must seek to understand the words of the revelation from Allah. That is not possible without reading what is said about the relationship between man and Iblis. The word translated as "prostrate" to Adam gives the wrong connotation and must be defined properly. In addition, verse "1316" may be helpful along with the verses about Iblis in understanding a world view. May your journey be rewarding to all of us. God bless you. peace

Egyptian researcher and film-maker Ashraf Ezzat hosts Palestinian historian Ahmad el-Dabsh, regarding Musnad inscriptions which mention the name "Misrn" as being a territory within South Arabia https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmsjGAAw4Uw&t=1021s Nice.

I had somewhat similar thought and the jkhan, goodlogic and hawk really provided me best replies. Have a look https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9612031.0;all Peace thanks for the answer

Salam Sadaqah1, Please watch the video and give your thoughts. There was an old user on this forum called “Pazuzu” who said something similar back in 2012. https//youtu.be/oZYH2OM_3ZY I once read some Pazuzu writings and were very interesting. I agree that the land of the prophets was in Yemen. But I think making the Cube House as the reference is a bad idea. Allah uses many parables in the Quran to explain His verses, 2533 And for every parable they come to you with, We bring you the truth and the best explanation. let me show you a parable regarding the House or Bayt, 2941 The parable of those who take protectors other than Allah is that of the spider, who builds (to itself) a house<baytan>; but truly the weakest of houses <buyuti>is the spider's house <baytu>;- if they but knew. So in this parable, god's existence is described as a house. Where the Polytheist belief is likened to a weak house, a spider's house. 2943 And such are the Parables We set forth for mankind, but only those understand them who have knowledge. This is not knowledge known by many people. This verse has described the Polytheism belief as weakest house metaphorically. So we knew that when a verse talk about a house or bayt, followed by a statement regarding either polytheism or monotheism, the house(s) or bayt there must be understood metaphorically. Let me show you another example, 1626 Those before them had schemed, so God came to their buildings from the foundation, thus the roof fell on top of them; and the retribution came to them from where they did not know. 1627 Then, on the Day of Resurrection He will humiliate them, and say "Where are My partners regarding whom you used to dispute?" Those who have received the knowledge said "The humiliation today and the misery are upon the rejecters." Since 1627 talk abut partner besides Gods, then building in 1627 is not a physical building. It's a parable for polytheism belief. Now let me show you the house that is the opposite of this polytheist house, 2436 In houses that God has permitted to be raised, and His name mentioned in them. He is glorified therein in the mornings and the evenings. Of course this is not a physical cube house, like the one in Saudi Arabia or whatever is believed to be in Yemen. This is a monotheism house that was raised by the basics of our father Ibrahim and his son Ismail, regardless their location, 2127 And it was so, that Ibrahim was raising the foundations for the House, and Ishmael "Our Lord accept this from us, You are the Hearer, the Knowledgeable." 2226 And We have appointed to Ibrahim the location of the House "Do not set up anyone with Me, and purify My House for those who visit, and those who are standing, and the humbling, and the submitting." So as you can see, THE HOUSE founded by Ibrahim and Ismail is not a physical house in the form of a cube. But it was a MONOTHEISM HOUSE, a strong house as opposed to a weak polytheist's house which just like a spider house 2125 And it was so, that We have made the House to be a model for the people and a place of safety. 397 In it are clear signs the station of Ibrahim. And whoever enters it will have safety. And God is owed from the people to make Pilgrimage to the House, whoever can make a way to it. And whoever rejects, then God has no need of the worlds. What house in this world can provide safety to the people who enter it? Can all humans in this world enter the house simultaneously to get safe? What safety can be provided by a cube house in Saudi Arabia? Only THE HOUSE OF MONOTHEISM can make everyone who enter it will be safe. The monotheism house which its foundation was raised by our father Ibrahim and Ismail. With this understanding, I will re -translate the verse about Mecca for you ... 4824 And He is the One who withheld their hands against you, and your hands against them in unapparent destruction <bi batni makkata>, after He had made you victorious over them. God is Seer of what you do. = Miim-Kaf-Kaf = Sucking, Sucking up, Absorbing, drinking up, Destruction/Destroying, diminishing, diminution/failing; failure, to cast, to throw away, to discard, to straighten/tighten or impede/restrict, to beseech/ask/accept, crowding, competition (izdihaam). Makkah (city of). And also for the Bakkah, inna indeed awwala Alif-Waw-Lam - its origin or source; his or its original state, baytin house (of monotheism) wudhi'a Waw-Dad-Ayn = the proper place of a thing. lilnnāsi for the mankind lalladhī those who bibakkata = Ba-Kaf-Kaf (e.g. bakka) = distinguishing/ranking above others mubārakan blessed wahudan and a guidance lil'ālamīna for the worlds. 396 Indeed, something that originated from monotheism (baytin) is a proper place for people who in the difference with another (in beliefs), which is blessed, and guidance for whole worlds. Monotheism that unites all of us, which might comes from different creed and different sharia (ways). Therefore we are called to HAJJ so that each of us realizes that we are not alone in serving God Almighty, God Alone. In other words, if you deal with another monotheism beliefs, lets get back to the words, There's no God but Allah. No need to argue, especially during Hajj. And stop seeking for Makka and Bakka city, just translate them as appropriate.. It;s not "where", but it's "what" Peace

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Peace centi50 If you prefer one up to you and her like cousin marriage with leading alif different meaning ie work system see below twos and threes and fours masculine groups refers to people ‎43 … فانكحوا (ie what Musa’s father in-law did) ما what طاب seem moral لكم to you (m/pl.) من of النسا the womenfolk (f/pl.) مثنى twosome/twos (m) وثلث and threes (m) وربع and fours (m) فان so if خفتم fear you (m/pl.) الا that not تعدلوا thou equitable ye of فوحده so communally او or ما ma/what ملكت malakat/entrust اىمنكم aymanukum/right hands yours ذلك such ادنى lowermost الا that not تعولوا thou oppress ye of If they cannot afford to marry one how two? Likewise, doesn’t say males to marry males ‎2432 وانكحوا (ie help marry sponsor eg what father in law of Musa did, a work arrangement) الاىمى the unwed (m/pl.) منكم among you (pl.) والصلحىن and the righteous (m/pl.) من from/among عبدكم devotees yours (m/pl.) واماىكم and devotees yours (f/pl.) ان if ىكونوا being they of فقرا poor ىغنهم enriches them الله the God من from فضله bounty his والله and the God واسع extensive علىم knower ‎2827 قال said انى indeed I ارىد want ان that انكحك betroths you (sing.) احدى one (f) ابنتى daughters two mine هتىن these two على on ان that تاجرنى thou work for me ثمنى eight حجج hijajin 4128-130 is about divorce, if she wants out don’t leave her hanging — we’re not catholics

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Are religions of men not many and varied? Islam is not a religion. Islam to GOD is a state of mind Those who do not believe in GOD or accountability will reject all religions They at least take a consistent stand Those who claim to believe in GOD and follow men s religions are all divided into different religions and different sects within each religion, How can this not be a big contradiction since there is only one GOD? GOD does not give different religions and divides each religion into sects. This is inconsistency and cannot be from GOD Also GOD does not ask anyone to fight others that have different religions since He has given everyone the freedom of choice of beliefs. GOD is just and will not contradict Himself. One has the right only to defend themselves against aggression. If one believes in true Islam to GOD , one s state /purpose will include to follow GOD s message and upholds GOD s way of life in that message. That way of life should include the relationship and good behaviour with all his fellow peaceful humans . Passing on the message can be done with amicable advice and peaceful means. Argue the best way by what is best amicably. Since we are all humans , we must be prepared to accept others "best" if it is clear to us it is better than our"best".. Not adapt a "my mind is made up"attitude." GOD bless. Peace.

Could it be because we are near the very end? Maybe the only miracle we'll witness is the day of judgment? Because why would God give so many past nations miracles yet leave us with none? Some say our miracle is The Quran. You may find the first article I ever wrote interesting https//mypercept.co.uk/articles/Does_God_Exist_home.htm This equates to a “1 in ten thousand billion billion” chance of this event occurring.

Oh okay thanks! So your understanding is that multiple marriages are allowed in the case of widows with children? peace sleepy, have a different understanding now 43 وان and if خفتم fear you (m/pl.) الا that not تقسطوا thou just ye of فى in الىتمى l-yatama/the orphans فانكحوا so betroths ye of ما what طاب seem good لكم to you (m/pl.) من of النسا l-nisai/the womenfolk (f/pl.) مثنى mathnā/twosome (m) وثلث wathulātha/and triplet (m) وربع warubāa/and quartette (m) فان so if خفتم fear you (m/pl.) الا that not تعدلوا thou equitable ye of فوحده fawahidatan/so single/communally (f) او or ما what ملكت possess اىمنكم right hands (commits) yours ذلك such ادنى lowermost الا that not تعولوا thou oppress ye of betroths ye of is similar to what father-in-law suggested to help out 2827 قال said انى indeed I ارىد want ان that انكحك betroths you (sing.) احدى one (f) ابنتى daughters two mine mathnā (m) wathulātha (m) warubāa (m) can refer back to the community fawahidatan/so communally (f) refers to community (groups are feminine) 3446 قل say انما solely اعظكم I advise you (m/pl.) بوحده biwahidatin/in single (thought) (f) ان that تقوموا thou stand ye of لله to God مثنى mathnā/twosome/twos (m) وفردى and individually other words to describe exactly two females 4176 فان so if كانتا be/are (feminine) dual اثنتىن ithnatayni/two (females) 2823 ووجد and found من from دونهم besides them امرتىن imra-atayni/women two

Even if polygyny were allowed only to help orphans, why would you need to marry the mothers of the orphans in order to help them? Why can't you just help them without having to marry their mothers? peace, not about marrying multiple women; like father-in-law proposed … 2827 قال said انى indeed I ارىد want ان that انكحك betroths you احدى one (f) ابنتى daughters two mine هتىن these two على on ان that تاجرنى thou work for me … 42 واتوا and gives ye of الىتمى the orphans امولهم wealth (inheritance) theirs … 43 وان and if خفتم fear you (pl.) الا that not تقسطوا thou just ye of فى in الىتمى the orphans فانكحوا so betroths ye of ما what طاب seem good لكم to you من of النسا the womenfolk مثنى pair (m) وثلث and triplet (m) وربع and quartette (m) فان so if خفتم fear you الا that not تعدلوا thou equitable ye of فوحده so single/communally (f) (everyone pitches in to help) او or ما what ملكت possess اىمنكم right hands (commits) yours ذلك such ادنى lowermost الا that not تعولوا thou oppress ye of

There is truth/reality and there is falsehood/illusion. GOD does not do magic for show ,to entertain or boast. GOD is the truth and only does real things for a good reason and purpose. The magicians do magic which are tricks and illusions. They can never create anything new or replace a real creation with another. Only GOD can do that. The magicians saw this clearly with Moses showing them this fact. They recognised that this was no magic that they know and practice but an act of real creation in front of them. There was no trick with Moses . Moses did nothing, GOD recreated and restored back. The magicians were astonished , shocked and defeated. They recognised only a real power that creates can do that. They submitted to that higher power. with reverence instantly. GOD bless . Peace.

This is said by one of the greatest islamic scholars, Carl Jung www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqtzpED1y-I.

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-Think not of those who are slain in Allah.s way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the floor of their Lord; Allah is pleased with the blessing he has bestowed upon them, and about the Mujahideen who have not joined them as martyrs behind them "They have no fear, and they will not hear sadness." are found. (Surat al-Fitr 169-170) According to these verses; 1- While other dead people are really dead (waiting for the resurrection), the martyrs are alive differently from them. 2- They live in blessings on the floor of the Lord (in the Hereafter) When they speak in heaven, they give good news about the people who are still in the world and / or who have not yet been resurrected after they have been killed (they also say words that they will participate in the Jenny) However, the point to be noted here is that the people who are now in heaven (in the Rabbinic Floor) are as physical as us, they are materially alive. Already according to the Qur'an, there is no such thing as souls, spiritual life. Everlasting life is also the body. All creatures, including angels and goblins, are already members (for example, if we were created from earth, the jinn were also created from fire). You can also read my article on "Nobody has got ghost according to Quran". Meryem Also mention in the Book the case of Idris He was a man of truth (and sincerity), (and) a prophet We raised him in a high/lofty place. Al-i Imran 55. Behold! Allah said "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute. .................................................. ..... IS JESUS ALIVE? Let me briefly answer this frequently asked question again Prophet Jesus died, but just like other prophets and martyrs, he was created again in the Paradise (Floor of Lord). In other words, living in a Paradise now. In short, not only Jesus, but all the prophets and messengers live in other Universe. Regards. Emre_1974tr

El-'emr is the mission, the set of tasks (jobs) given to oolu-l-'emr. Resoolullah had his el-'emr given to him by Allah, and oolu-l-'emr are given their mission from "hum" (them, the people). These people are in charge for something that benefits a community they're part of, for example if a community needs a road they will put some of them in charge for making it, others have to obey them, unless there's some dispute which they can refer to Allah and Resool, which is the Qur'an now. One should notice that they can't be strangers, but "from you". This can be recognized as a form of democracy, but democracy is a rule of "most" over "less" and in reality it's always oligarchy (rule by some over most of the people). Oolu-l-'emr have a mission given by all, all disputes should be resolved by the Qur'an. Oolu-l-'emr are not scholars nor "raasikhoone fi-l-'ilm", but they are literally managers of the society. Society can be without them also, and can be managed by the Qur'an, but it's not easy for a society. This sort of governing/managing a society is anarchy, where everything can be questioned, disputed and brought back to Allah and the Qur'an. This is the only way to make an order, by questioning everything and everybody, because they're not "god-given" they're chosen by the people. No kings and queens ordered for us by the Qur'an, but the Qur'an should guide us all the time.