"Halal" meat
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How about the food you buy from the maeket with name on it hmm
The cake is specially ordered as a birthday cake and, from start to finish, it is dedicated to a person unlike other mass produced food in the supermaket, walkers crips or jacobs biscuits. eat
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I love cakes, especially fresh cream cakes with nice, ripe strawberries and layers of thin wine linings at the bottom and no name on top. eat
{Forbidden to you (for food) are dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which has been invoked the name of other than Allah; that which has been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; that which hath been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; unless ye are able to slaughter it (in due form); that which is sacrificed on stone (altars); (forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling with arrows that is impiety...} (Al-Ma'ida 53)
On your birth day cake your name is written I?m not invoking your name I?m not considering you a god but if Christian cut it saying Jesus crest or Hindu invoking their god?s name then it is haramjedi
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{Forbidden to you (for food) are dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which has been invoked the name of other than Allah; that which has been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; that which hath been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; unless ye are able to slaughter it (in due form); that which is sacrificed on stone (altars); (forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling with arrows that is impiety...} (Al-Ma'ida 53)
On your birth day cake your name is written I?m not invoking your name I?m not considering you a god but if Christian cut it saying Jesus crest or Hindu invoking their god?s name then it is haramjedi
Just to be on the safe side think again. hmm It does not say which has been invoked with the names of other GODS than God; it simply says name of other than Allah.
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Just to be on the safe side think again. hmm It does not say which has been invoked with the names of other GODS than God; it simply says name of other than Allah.
peaceThose who invoke not, with Allah, any other god, nor slay such life as Allah has made sacred except for just cause, nor commit fornication; - and any that does this (not only) meets punishment." [
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Those who invoke not, with Allah, any other god, nor slay such life as Allah has made sacred except for just cause, nor commit fornication; - and any that does this (not only) meets punishment." [
This is not about forbidden foods; this is the main message given to us all the time there are no other gods but God
I am talking about the list of food harm in 2173
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And it does not bother me if it makes me look stupid but I dont mind giving up small delights of this entertaining world. &
laugh That is ok what do you think about this is it haram or not hmm
BONE PHOSPHATE - E542 An anti-caking agent made from the degreased steam-extract from animal bones.
COCHINEAL/CARMINE - E120, E122 A red dyestuff consisting of dried bodies of female cochineal insects. Note E124 Ponceau 4R is acceptable although it is sometimes known as Cochineal Red A.
GELATINE Gelatine is an odourless, tasteless, protein substance like glue or jelly, obtained by boiling the bones, hoofs, and other waste parts of animals. Vegetarian alternatives such as Agar Agar and Gelozone exist.
GLYCERINE - E422 May be produced from animal fats, synthesised from propylene or from fermentation of sugars..
L-CYSTEINE A flavour and improving agent manufactured from animal hair and chicken feathers.
MAGNESIUM STEARATE May be made from animal fat. Often found in medicines.
RENNET (ANIMAL) An enzyme taken from the stomach of a newly killed calf used in the cheese making process. Vegetarian cheese is produced using microbial or fungal enzymes, or chymosin.
VANILLA EXTRACT Vanilla is a plant product. It is extracted with alcohol as the solvent of choice, from the vanilla bean and is normally kept in a solution containing alcohol. If you examine at a bottle of vanilla extract, you will find it lists alcohol as an ingredient, along with the percentage of alcohol.
WHEY During cheese making, a coagulum is formed by clotting milk with rennet. When the coagulum is cut, a watery liquid known as whey is released and drained off leaving the curd to be salted and further processed into cheese. Whey contains water, fat, protein, lactose, minerals and lactic acid. Cream, butter, cheese, drinks, syrups and powder are some of the products made from whey.
SHELLAC E904 a resin from the lac insect
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salaam,
Why the mockery of farida? He/she is not making totally unreasonable posts. He/she is making a point or asking a question based upon a specific bit or revelation. Instead, deal with it like you don't have some pet belief to lose.
To farida -
- Define exactly what you understand by the portion from 2173, "dedicated to other than Allah".
- If you order a pizza, they may have your name on the order, the pizza will be made just for you, as you want it. Would you eat it?
I want to know exactly what your understanding is before I discuss more.
To afridi220 -
Why don't you make an effort to categorise the ingredients in that list? Use logic and some research, you will be able to decide.
Salaam
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laugh That is ok what do you think about this is it haram or not hmm
BONE PHOSPHATE - E542 An anti-caking agent made from the degreased steam-extract from animal bones.
COCHINEAL/CARMINE - E120, E122 A red dyestuff consisting of dried bodies of female cochineal insects. Note E124 Ponceau 4R is acceptable although it is sometimes known as Cochineal Red A.
GELATINE Gelatine is an odourless, tasteless, protein substance like glue or jelly, obtained by boiling the bones, hoofs, and other waste parts of animals. Vegetarian alternatives such as Agar Agar and Gelozone exist.
GLYCERINE - E422 May be produced from animal fats, synthesised from propylene or from fermentation of sugars..
L-CYSTEINE A flavour and improving agent manufactured from animal hair and chicken feathers.
MAGNESIUM STEARATE May be made from animal fat. Often found in medicines.
RENNET (ANIMAL) An enzyme taken from the stomach of a newly killed calf used in the cheese making process. Vegetarian cheese is produced using microbial or fungal enzymes, or chymosin.
VANILLA EXTRACT Vanilla is a plant product. It is extracted with alcohol as the solvent of choice, from the vanilla bean and is normally kept in a solution containing alcohol. If you examine at a bottle of vanilla extract, you will find it lists alcohol as an ingredient, along with the percentage of alcohol.
WHEY During cheese making, a coagulum is formed by clotting milk with rennet. When the coagulum is cut, a watery liquid known as whey is released and drained off leaving the curd to be salted and further processed into cheese. Whey contains water, fat, protein, lactose, minerals and lactic acid. Cream, butter, cheese, drinks, syrups and powder are some of the products made from whey.
SHELLAC E904 a resin from the lac insect
peaceHave you got that list from a sunni site?
The list is just fanatical, or may be worth pondering for health freaks, I don't care much about all this, to me wine sauce or gelatine is okay as it excludes pigs meat(ONLY MEAT OF PIG IS HARAM) and wine is burned in cooking process .
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To farida -
- Define exactly what you understand by the portion from 2173, "dedicated to other than Allah".
- If you order a pizza, they may have your name on the order, the pizza will be made just for you, as you want it. Would you eat it?
I want to know exactly what your understanding is before I discuss more.
Salaam
Salaam
Please read my previous posts to understand my position. I am quite comfortable with my feelings about the birthday cake issue and comparing it to pizza or any other specially prepared food is, IMO taking it to extremes.
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salaam,
Why the mockery of farida? He/she is not making totally unreasonable posts. He/she is making a point or asking a question based upon a specific bit or revelation. Instead, deal with it like you don't have some pet belief to lose.
Salaam
Thank you for the advice im not mocking her and she knows that . )peace
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Um..ok...I thought that eating meat is ok someone mentions a name OTHER than God, right?
6121 And do not eat from that which the Name of God has not been mentioned, for it is wickedness.
Isn't this kind of saying if no name AT ALL wasn't mentioned, it's haram?
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Um..ok...I thought that eating meat is ok someone mentions a name OTHER than God, right?
6121 And do not eat from that which the Name of God has not been mentioned, for it is wickedness.
Isn't this kind of saying if no name AT ALL wasn't mentioned, it's haram?
You yourself have to mention God's name upon everything that you eat.
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You yourself have to mention God's name upon everything that you eat.
what is God's name?
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Peace brothers and sisters
My dad used to tell me a story that many years ago in Turkey Imams used to say, "if you do a kurbani then the head and the skin should be donated to the mosque or your kurbani will not be accepted by God." Moral of the story, always do your research or something like that )
I have seen cattle being slortered in the slorter houses here in UK. The process is very quick. First the animal has a gun pointed to the side of the head in which a long peice (4 inches I think) of metal is fired and then retracted (this apparently kills the brain so animal can not feel any pain), at this point the animal is hoysted into the air by its back legs and throat is slit and left hanging for blood to drain. This whole process takes seconds, non of the waiting animals are allowed to witness the process, its a very efficient conveyer belt opperation. Question if animals are killed in this manner, will you say it is ok for muslims to eat or is it Haram?
Peace
Hope
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Peace brothers and sisters
My dad used to tell me a story that many years ago in Turkey Imams used to say, "if you do a kurbani then the head and the skin should be donated to the mosque or your kurbani will not be accepted by God." Moral of the story, always do your research or something like that
I have seen cattle being slortered in the slorter houses here in UK. The process is very quick. First the animal has a gun pointed to the side of the head in which a long peice (4 inches I think) of metal is fired and then retracted (this apparently kills the brain so animal can not feel any pain), at this point the animal is hoysted into the air by its back legs and throat is slit and left hanging for blood to drain. This whole process takes seconds, non of the waiting animals are allowed to witness the process, its a very efficient conveyer belt opperation. Question if animals are killed in this manner, will you say it is ok for muslims to eat or is it Haram?
Peace
Hope
Ahh I have to search this answer in my beard and turban which I lost somewhere. hmm