According to the present understanding of the quran which religion is better?
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Peace,
In order to continue with this discussion, we need, first of all, to define the word "religion".
For me,, religion is a set of rules that are/were created by few "devilish" people to control and dominate the "sheep" majority, claiming they have authority and special access to the "mysterious" higher power that we call God. Those devilish few immediately counteracted the messengers by creating those religions, to delude people from the right path that the messenger were sent to remind people of. Religions are satan's reaction to the clear message of Allah.
Denouncing religions is the first step towards believing in Allah.peace
bravo bravo I agree!
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Peace,
In order to continue with this discussion, we need, first of all, to define the word "religion".
For me,, religion is a set of rules that are/were created by few "devilish" people to control and dominate the "sheep" majority, claiming they have authority and special access to the "mysterious" higher power that we call God. Those devilish few immediately counteracted the messengers by creating those religions, to delude people from the right path that the messenger were sent to remind people of. Religions are satan's reaction to the clear message of Allah.
Denouncing religions is the first step towards believing in Allah.peace
What is the english definition of religion!
Definition
religion Show phonetics
noun
1 the belief in and worship of a god or gods, or any such system of belief and worship
the Christian religion2 INFORMAL an activity which someone is extremely enthusiastic about and does regularly
Football is a religion for these people.religious Show phonetics
adjective
1 relating to religion
religious education2 having a strong belief in a god or gods
He's deeply religious and goes to church twice a week.religiously Show phonetics
adverb
1 in ways or subjects relating to religion
India is quite diverse, both politically and religiously.2 INFORMAL If you do something religiously, you do it regularly
He visits his mother religiously every week.How can you denounce religion and thus God?
Or have you a different definition of religion?
peace
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Peace Simple,
You did not tell me what the word "religion" means to you! It would have been nice if you would have written your understanding of the word "religion" in your OP.
So as I said, my understanding of the word "religion" is as in Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.
But let me ask you, if all God's books preach the same concept, and I suppose they do, why on Earth do we have so many religions!?
Religions, all religions, go against Allah even if they frost themselves with morals and noble ideas. Religions as much as they seem to be different from each other, they all share one thing they all call for separation from the "evil" other and incite creating boundaries between fellow humans. The mere fact of using labels Muslim, Christian, Jew, etc.. implies the message of "I am right and you are wrong", "I am good, you are evil" etc.. all the while using their "holy" books as a tool to generate yet more conflict and ... stupidity.
peace
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I voted "Other" simply because I do not see and difference between the basic beliefs of any of those religions mentioned. I am a Christian (not traditional) and I believe almost exactly the same as most "God-alone", "Quran-alone" Muslims. So what is the difference between us?
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I voted "Other" simply because I do not see and difference between the basic beliefs of any of those religions mentioned. I am a Christian (not traditional) and I believe almost exactly the same as most "God-alone", "Quran-alone" Muslims. So what is the difference between us?
Do you believe in Muhammed being a prophet?
peace
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I voted "Other" simply because I do not see and difference between the basic beliefs of any of those religions mentioned. I am a Christian (not traditional) and I believe almost exactly the same as most "God-alone", "Quran-alone" Muslims. So what is the difference between us?
The fact is that there is no big difference. ALL messengers of God advocated the same system/way of life (call it "religion" if you want to) Submission to God alone ("Islam" in arabic). With "Islam" I dont mean the Sunni, Shia, etc. version, but the God alone version - a universal system/way of life.
You could even acknowledge the Quran as being a divine scripture without changing your basic beliefs.
Munzir Ali said
Do you believe in Muhammed being a prophet?
Does it matter if he does or not?
And I would like to add, even if he does - does he have to change his basic beliefs and practices? -
Peace simple and all
To me the word religion stands for oppression control,, fear ,hatred .Religious people harp on about adoltery,but 99% practice it in one form or the othere.
Religion is one of the greatest weapons and has caused more misery and death than any nuclear weapon .The sooner we start freeing our self 's the sooner we will acheive freedom and peace.
Peace salim
live long and prosper -
Do you believe in Muhammed being a prophet?
peace
You may find this surprising, but yes I do. I believe that all the prophets mentioned in the Bible and Quran were prophets of one sort or another. Muhammad was just as much a prophet as Jesus (Yeshua / Isa / whatever name you wish to give him, no one has got his name right in 2000 years.)
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Peace Simple,
You did not tell me what the word "religion" means to you! It would have been nice if you would have written your understanding of the word "religion" in your OP.
So as I said, my understanding of the word "religion" is as in Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.
But let me ask you, if all God's books preach the same concept, and I suppose they do, why on Earth do we have so many religions!?
Religions, all religions, go against Allah even if they frost themselves with morals and noble ideas. Religions as much as they seem to be different from each other, they all share one thing they all call for separation from the "evil" other and incite creating boundaries between fellow humans. The mere fact of using labels Muslim, Christian, Jew, etc.. implies the message of "I am right and you are wrong", "I am good, you are evil" etc.. all the while using their "holy" books as a tool to generate yet more conflict and ... stupidity.
peace
peace Taj,
My religion is to Endeavour to the cause of God/Life force/Way, something that is bringing about all the positive results in the cosmos and secondly fulfilling my obligations to others.
I think the greatest thing which all religions try to do (Theoretically) is give life the greatest value.
I think this alone outweighs the wrongs that are done by some of the followers of religion as the majority will always uphold this belief.
Otherwise there may be many more Hitler?s in the world then there have been, God forbid.
peace
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You may find this surprising, but yes I do. I believe that all the prophets mentioned in the Bible and Quran were prophets of one sort or another. Muhammad was just as much a prophet as Jesus (Yeshua / Isa / whatever name you wish to give him, no one has got his name right in 2000 years.)
So you dont think the Quran is false anymore?
Have you checked the link(s) that I gave you? -
Peace simple and all
To me the word religion stands for oppression control,, fear ,hatred .Religious people harp on about adoltery,but 99% practice it in one form or the othere.
Religion is one of the greatest weapons and has caused more misery and death than any nuclear weapon .The sooner we start freeing our self 's the sooner we will acheive freedom and peace.
Peace salim
live long and prosperHi Salim,
I think we aught to use the general dictionary definition of the word religion, as that is how the world understands it rather then the few who may literally define it differently, don't you think.
Secondly all the wrong thing you are attaching to religion are not encouraged in the theory of any religion in any shape or form but are opposed by all mainstream religions- I think.
peace
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I never once said the Quran is false .... I said IF
Oh yeah..OK.
Did you check the links?
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Peace Simple,
peace Taj,
My religion is to Endeavour to the cause of God/Life force/Way, something that is bringing about all the positive results in the cosmos and secondly fulfilling my obligations to others.
That is strange! Your understanding does not come from the dictionary you want others to stick to! As you preached Salgan (Salim)
Hi Salim,I think we aught to use the general dictionary definition of the word religion, as that is how the world understands it rather then the few who may literally define it differently, don't you think.
!!!And here is the quote from the dictionary that you have brought in an earlier post
Definition
religion Show phonetics
noun
1 the belief in and worship of a god or gods, or any such system of belief and worship
the Christian religion2 INFORMAL an activity which someone is extremely enthusiastic about and does regularly
Football is a religion for these people.religious Show phonetics
adjective
1 relating to religion
religious education2 having a strong belief in a god or gods
He's deeply religious and goes to church twice a week.religiously Show phonetics
adverb
1 in ways or subjects relating to religion
India is quite diverse, both politically and religiously.2 INFORMAL If you do something religiously, you do it regularly
He visits his mother religiously every week.!!!
Many different meanings for the word "religion".
And your personal understanding is not one of them!I think the greatest thing which all religions try to do (Theoretically) is give life the greatest value.
Your statement is contradictory.
If what you say is true, why then all religions don't become one? At least for the great and noble purpose they all call for!!?? Isn't this noble cause worthy enough for them to unite under one name!? Isn't the God enough for His believers?I think this alone outweighs the wrongs that are done by some of the followers of religion as the majority will always uphold this belief.
Please don't throw all the blame on the sheep majority. They only follow what they are told by the "religion's authorities" whether clearly or implied.
Otherwise there may be many more Hitler?s in the world then there have been, God forbid.
Hitler is but one of many. He only got his vast reputation for obvious reasons. Have you been living in a cave!?
peace
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Peace Simple
Thats been the trouble with religion majority of people stick to dictionary definition and IGNORE what they observe what religion truly is CONTROL by the Few over the many by fear .
You do not need Religion to Believe or to be Responsible for your actions .
Peace Salim
Live long and prosper
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Peace Simple,
That is strange! Your understanding does not come from the dictionary you want others to stick to! As you preached Salgan (Salim) !!!And here is the quote from the dictionary that you have brought in an earlier post!!!
Many different meanings for the word "religion".
And your personal understanding is not one of them!I think my belief in the God is there in the dictionary, check it!
Your statement is contradictory.
If what you say is true, why then all religions don't become one? At least for the great and noble purpose they all call for!!?? Isn't this noble cause worthy enough for them to unite under one name!? Isn't the God enough for His believers?Of course he is enough and the differances don't remove the importance of the value given to life.
Please don't throw all the blame on the sheep majority. They only follow what they are told by the "religion's authorities" whether clearly or implied.
The majority may be the sheep but they aren't the Fasidoon/trouble makers- who don't value life.
Hitler is but one of many. He only got his vast reputation for obvious reasons. Have you been living in a cave!?
Yes he was of the minority, and not the majority.
peace
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Peace Simple
Thats been the trouble with religion majority of people stick to dictionary definition and IGNORE what they observe
Do they really ignore what they observe-No we can't and don't ignore what we observe.
Proof is all around us.
so far its been improving over the decades- check history of what people used to do until religions came about, people where basically animal like.
what religion truly is CONTROL by the Few over the many by fear .
Of course all religions are controlled by a few but you can have a religion of your own- un-doubtedly you have one.
You do not need Religion to Believe or to be Responsible for your actions.
Please check the definition of religion above- its not what we think it is.
example;
2 INFORMAL If you do something religiously, you do it regularly
He visits his mother religiously every week.Live long and prosper