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The quraan & the amazing bukhari

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    thegod
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    In another Hadith, Othman ibn Affan may Allah bless him reported that the Messenger of Allah peace be upon him said, "The best amongst you is the one who learns the Qur'an and teaches it.'' .

    Teachers

    Imam Bukhari ( R.A) first started listening and learning ahaadeeth in 205 A.H., and after profiting from the Ulamaa of his town he started his travels in 210 A.H. There are a great number of teachers from whom Imam Bukhari (R.A) actually gained his much respected knowledge. It has been known to be said by Imam Bukhari (R..A) himself that, "I have written ahaadeeth from 1080 different people all of whom were scholars." However, he profited most from Ishaq Ibn Rahway and Ali Ibn Madeeni (R.A). Imam Bukhari (R.A) has narrated ahaadeeth from Ulamaa of five different categories. He has also narrated ahaadeeth from his students believing in the fact that no person shall be titled a scholar of ahaadeeth until he has narrated from his elders, youngsters and contemporaries.

    Students

    Imam Bukhari (R.A) also had a vast amount of students. It has been stated that approximately 9 000 people were privileged to sit in his lessons where he taught his Kitab Sahih-Ul-Bukhari. There were travelers amongst these from all corners of the world in order to join these pious sittings and to be honoured with a glimpse of the knowledge that he held and which never failed to astonish anybody.

    Memory

    Imam Bukharis (R.A) memory was considered to be inhuman, for as soon as the praying of a hadith would finish Imam Bukhari (R.A) would repeat it orally. It has been known that in his childhood he had memorized 2 000 ahaadeeth.

    There is one spectacular incident which took place in Baghdad when Imam Bukhari (R.A) took up temporary residence there. The people having heard of his many accomplishments, and the attributes which were issued to him, decided to test him so as to make him prove himself to them. In order to do that they chose one hundred different ahaadeeth and changing the testimonials and the text of the ahaadeeth they were then recited by ten people to Imam Bukhari (R.A).

    There was a crowd of gathered people from within and outside the city to witness the outcome of such a test. When the ahaadeeth were recited Imam Bukhari (R.A) replied to all in one manner, "Not to my knowledge." However, after the completion of all the ahaadeeth Imam Bukhari (R.A) repeated each text and testimonial which had been changed followed by the correct text and testimonial, such was the memory of Imam Bukhari (R.A).

    Few persons in the world have even been endowed with a proverbial memory. One of them is Bukhari, the greatest compiler of Hadith (narratives pertaining to the Prophets life and his sayings) that Islam has produced. He is said to have retained in his memory one million Ahadith with full details of all the different sources and reporters of each Hadith which came down to him. His Sahih Bukhari (collection of Hadith) is universally recognised as the most authentic collection of Ahadith of the Holy Prophet of Islam (Pbuh).

    Abuabd Allah Muhammad ibn Ismail, later known as Imam Bukhari, was born in Bukhara on 13 Shawwal, 194 A.H. (July 21 810 A.C). The newly-born child had scarcely opened his eyes in the world when he lost his eyesight. His father was immensely grieved at it. His pious mother wept and prayed to God to restore the eyesight of her newly-born child. And by the Grace of God, the eyesight of the newly-born child was fully restored. He lost his father when he was still a child. He was brought up by his illustrious and virtuous mother. He began his study of the Hadith at the early age of eleven. In his 16th year, he made pilgrimage of the Holy places along with his mother and elder brother. There he attended the lectures of the great teachers of Hadith in Makkah and Madinah. He was still 18 years old, when he wrote a book on the decisions made by the Companions of the Prophet (Pbuh) and their followers.

    His elder brother, Rashid ibn Ismail reports that the young Bukhari used to attend the lectures and discourses of learned men along with him and other pupils. But, unlike other pupils he never took notes of these discourses. They criticised him for not taking notes of the lectures and thus wasted his time. Bukhari did not give any reply. One day, being annoyed by their consistent criticism of his carelessness, Bukhari asked his fellow pupils to bring all they had noted down. By that time, his fellow pupils had taken down more than 15 thousand Ahadith. Young Bukhari, to the amazement of all, narrated all the 15 thousand Ahadith from his memory with minutest details which had not been noted down by the follow pupils.

    Later, he started on a study pilgrimage of the world of Islam, which lasted 16 years. Of this period, he spent five years in Basrah, visiting Egypt, Hijaz, Kufa and Baghdad several times and wandered all over Western Asia in quest of knowledge and learning . During his travels he reported Ahadith from 80,000 persons. With the help of his exceptional memory he could retain these Ahadith with all their sources in his mind to be penned down at an opportune time.

    The fame of young Bukhari had soon reached the distant parts of the Islamic world and wherever he went he was received with great veneration. People were wonderstruck by his deep learning and extraordinary memory. A large number of learned and pious men throughout the world of Islam became the disciples of young Bukhari. Darami, who was a spiritual teacher of Bukhari admits that his learned pupil had deeper insight into the Hadith.

    Bukhari devoted not only his entire intelligence and exceptional memory to the writing of the momentous work, Sahih Bukhari, he attended to the task with utmost dedication and piety. He used to take bath and pray whenever he sat down to write the book. A part of this book was written by him sitting by the side of Prophets grave at Madinah.

    Bukhari returned to his native place, Bukhara, at last and was given a rousing reception by the entire populace of this great cultural city. But he was not destined to live here for long. He was asked by the Ruler of Bukhara to teach him and his children the Ahadith of the Prophet at his Palace. This he declined and migrated to a town near Samarkand. Here he breathed his last on 30 Ramadan, 256 A.H. (31 August 870 A.C.)

    The entire populace of the town and the vicinity came out to pay their last homage to one of the greatest sons of Islam. His grave is still a favourite place of Muslim pilgrimage. His monumental work, Sahih Bukhari established his reputation as one of the greatest compilers of Ahadith in Islam. It is said that Bukhari retained in his memory one million Ahadith of the Holy Prophet of Islam (Pbuh) with all the details of their sources and reporters. Out of the million Ahadith which he had learnt from some 80,000 reporters, he selected 7,275 Ahadith and, according to Ibn Hajar, 9,082 for his monumental work, Sahih Bukhari. He took 16 years to complete it. This monumental work of Bukhari has been acclaimed by thousands of scholars, and erudite theologians as a rare accomplishment. More than 53 commentaries, some of these in around 14 volumes, have been written on Sahih Bukhari.

    Wow....the amazing bukhari.

    Yet, despite his "inhuman" memory, I cannot find any record of his having memorized the book of God. Has anybody else met with different luck?

    ma'a salaam.

    God bless all.

    al'hamd li Allaah Rabb al'aalameen

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      so true
      seems strange to me that so few 'Muslims' see the truth about the real nature and lack of authenticity of the Bukhari Hadiths and other similar collections. When will they see that the true hadiths that we are meant to follow are collected in the Quran itself?
      (sigh) giveup

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        thegod
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        sarah_bd_gemini-seems strange to me that so few 'Muslims' see the truth about the real nature and lack of authenticity of the Bukhari Hadiths and other similar collections. When will they see that the true hadiths that we are meant to follow are collected in the Quran itself?
        (sigh)

        Well, I guess the amazing bukhari was no so amazing after all.

        Or else he never read/heard the quraan (in its entirety, at least); because then it would have been retained by his "inhuman" memory.

        Maybe the not-so-amazing bukhari never read the amazing quraan. sub'haana Allaah

        ma'a salaam.

        God bless all.

        al'hamd li Allaah Rabb al'aalameen

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          So what?

          Bukhari collected hadith 230 years after the Prophet Muhammad. Let's assume (in other words, let's swallow the lies of his public relations managers) that he could memorize like my digital voice recorder. So what? As long as all those hearsay reporters before Bukhari were not digital voice recorders like Bukhari then all we can say about that "inhuman" digital voice recorder called Bukhari is the following He has memorized perfectly a great deal of hearsay, stupid stories and lies. Good for him!

          Peace,
          Edip

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            Peace

            Bukhari's methodology of collecting hadiths is well-known. Allah denounces his suspicious tactics when he involved in spying and backbiting to collect the despised stories on muhammad. According to the following verse We say "Woe unto Bukhari! Curse be upon Bukhari, who was eating the flesh of his dead brothers most of his life.

            49 12
            O ye who believe! Shun much suspicion; for lo! some suspicion is a crime. And spy not, neither backbite one another. Would one of you love to eat the flesh of his dead brother? Ye abhor that! And keep your duty. Lo! Allah is Relenting, Merciful.

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              So what?

              Bukhari collected hadith 230 years after the Prophet Muhammad. Let's assume (in other words, let's swallow the lies of his public relations managers) that he could memorize like my digital voice recorder. So what? As long as all those hearsay reporters before Bukhari were not digital voice recorders like Bukhari then all we can say about that "inhuman" digital voice recorder called Bukhari is the following He has memorized perfectly a great deal of hearsay, stupid stories and lies. Good for him!

              Peace,
              Edip

              Exactly!, and if you count how many minutes Bukhari could have spent over the so called 600,000 isnads he studied it would not be 10 minutes each. Do the math. See how many minutes or hours it would have taken him to look over 600,000 isnads or hadiths if he was studying 10 hours a day for 15 years.

              So lets assume he studied 600,000 isnads in 15 years. Every year he would have looked at in average 600,000/15=40,000 hadiths or isnads.
              So every month he would have looked and studied
              40,000/12=3,333.333 hadiths or isnads
              Every day he would have studied
              3,333.33/30=111.111 hadiths or isnads
              That means every hour in a 10 hour study time he would have studied
              111.11/10=11.11 hadiths or isnads
              Each hadith or isnad would have taken him
              60/11.11=5.4 minutes !!!

              Anotherwords Bukhari would have had to have spent an hour studying over 10 hadiths or isnads meaning each would have taken him less than 7 minutes!!!!! Thats without any vacation or travel time knowing people on those days used to spent sometimes months travelling.

              Its totally unrealistic. In fact I should start a thread on this since I am very bad in maths and my calculations, as the case with my experience in mathematics in general, is probably wrong.

              But even if the number is 300,000 thats still 12 minutes time per hadiths or isnad at the most. Its very hard to believe these stories.

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                Meteora
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                Some things about Bukhari

                Since the time I've realized the bs in Bukhari's books I've decided to address him as "Bukhara" because I think it suited him more, "khara" in Arabic is slang for excrement or the Arabic translation of shit.

                With further study I found out he came from a city called "Bukhara" (coincidence laugh?) and afterward found out he didn't know Arabic that well.

                To me this sounds somewhat like "Bull-khara"; if we take the first word as English and the second, the pronounciation of the Arabic translation of "shit" we then get what is abundant in his books, bullshit. Consider this a short overview of Bukhari.

                Exactly!, and if you count how many minutes Bukhari could have spent over the so called 600,000 isnads he studied it would not be 10 minutes each. Do the math. See how many minutes or hours it would have taken him to look over 600,000 isnads or hadiths if he was studying 10 hours a day for 15 years.

                So lets assume he studied 600,000 isnads in 15 years. Every year he would have looked at in average 600,000/15=40,000 hadiths or isnads.
                So every month he would have looked and studied
                40,000/12=3,333.333 hadiths or isnads
                Every day he would have studied
                3,333.33/30=111.111 hadiths or isnads
                That means every hour in a 10 hour study time he would have studied
                111.11/10=11.11 hadiths or isnads
                Each hadith or isnad would have taken him
                60/11.11=5.4 minutes !!!

                Anotherwords Bukhari would have had to have spent an hour studying over 10 hadiths or isnads meaning each would have taken him less than 7 minutes!!!!! Thats without any vacation or travel time knowing people on those days used to spent sometimes months travelling.

                Its totally unrealistic. In fact I should start a thread on this since I am very bad in maths and my calculations, as the case with my experience in mathematics in general, is probably wrong.

                But even if the number is 300,000 thats still 12 minutes time per hadiths or isnad at the most. Its very hard to believe these stories.

                Don't forget the fact he had to eat/sleep/as well as many other things that took at least 1/3 of his day. laugh

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                  So what?

                  Bukhari collected hadith 230 years after the Prophet Muhammad. Let's assume (in other words, let's swallow the lies of his public relations managers) that he could memorize like my digital voice recorder. So what? As long as all those hearsay reporters before Bukhari were not digital voice recorders like Bukhari then all we can say about that "inhuman" digital voice recorder called Bukhari is the following He has memorized perfectly a great deal of hearsay, stupid stories and lies. Good for him!

                  Peace,
                  Edip

                  rotfl

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                    Meteora
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                    That is funny, and very true.

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                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                      rotfl

                      rotfl rotfl

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                        Ibrahim-Khalil
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                        Meteora, choose yo words man. There are a lot of good hadiths from Buhari collection. Simply, just respect other people beliefs.

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                          MUNZIR_ALI
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                          Meteora, choose yo words man. There are a lot of good hadiths from Buhari collection. Simply, just respect other people beliefs.

                          But we don't even have to read bukhari's good hadhises because the quran says it is complete!

                          peace

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                            Meteora
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                            I said it is abundant in his books. C'mon dude, if something is in Bukhari that is against the Quran it is what it is, bs. However I'll try not to make fun of him (or his books) anymore, if that'll make anyone feel better.

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                              Ibrahim-Khalil
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                              Munzir, i agree with u. Meteora, not EVERYTHING in hadithes is against Quran.

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                                Very true, but whatever that is attributed to God and his Messenger, if it isn't in accordance to the Quran must be rejected by me. jedi

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                                  So what?

                                  Bukhari collected hadith 230 years after the Prophet Muhammad. Let's assume (in other words, let's swallow the lies of his public relations managers) that he could memorize like my digital voice recorder. So what? As long as all those hearsay reporters before Bukhari were not digital voice recorders like Bukhari then all we can say about that "inhuman" digital voice recorder called Bukhari is the following He has memorized perfectly a great deal of hearsay, stupid stories and lies. Good for him!

                                  Peace,
                                  Edip

                                  Peace,
                                  Respectfully.

                                  I even heard that this Bukhary fella was a Jew because none of hadith talk about Christians ....

                                  Strange ....

                                  Peace.

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                                    ^Heard that actually a few days ago.

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                                      No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                      Peace,
                                      Respectfully.

                                      I even heard that this Bukhary fella was a Jew because none of hadith talk about Christians ....

                                      Strange ....

                                      Peace.

                                      I am pretty sure that he was Zoraoastrian - remember, he was a Parsi.

                                      I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                        Who thought "kouthar" was a river in Heaven. laugh

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                                          MUNZIR_ALI
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                                          Who thought "kouthar" was a river in Heaven. laugh

                                          I thought that, I mean the my islam teachers at school dictated that kouthar was a river in heaven in which God will give it to the prophet!

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