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    Rev_John
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    The Muttaqun are those that believe, fear Allah and look to what He has ordained in carrying out His actions to avoid His displeasure and sadness

    Thank you, I appreciate your help and understanding.

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      No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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      What does Muttaq?n mean? (sorry to sound ignorant, but I do not understand Arabic)

      Seeking to journey through life in security = Protect oneself from disintegration of the personality = Journeying in security = Being careful = Getting empowered against evil = Avoid overstepping the laws = Exercising caution = Preserving the 'self' against deterioration = Good conduct = Building character = Live a life upright = Fear the consequences of violating Divine Commands = Observing = Being mindful of the Creator = Remaining conscious of the Divinely ordained Values = Taking precaution = Being watchful against error.

      I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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        Rev_John
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        Seeking to journey through life in security = Protect oneself from disintegration of the personality = Journeying in security = Being careful = Getting empowered against evil = Avoid overstepping the laws = Exercising caution = Preserving the 'self' against deterioration = Good conduct = Building character = Live a life upright = Fear the consequences of violating Divine Commands = Observing = Being mindful of the Creator = Remaining conscious of the Divinely ordained Values = Taking precaution = Being watchful against error.

        So it has many meanings depending on the context?

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          unknownuser
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          How is it depicted in the Quran?

          Here is another example;

          Waallatheena hum lifuroojihim hafithoona

          And those who guard their chastity,

          | - and those| - they/them/they are/those are | - null| - protecting/observing/guarding/ safekeeping (p) |
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          Illa AAala azwajihim awma malakat aymanuhum fa-innahum ghayru maloomeena
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          Except with their wives, those whom their right hands possess,- for (then) they are not to be blamed,

          peace

          So what is your stance on this?

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            Rev_John
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            Here is another example;

            Waallatheena hum lifuroojihim hafithoona

            And those who guard their chastity,

            | - and those| - they/them/they are/those are | - null| - protecting/observing/guarding/ safekeeping (p) |
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            Illa AAala azwajihim awma malakat aymanuhum fa-innahum ghayru maloomeena
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            Except with their wives, those whom their right hands possess,- for (then) they are not to be blamed,

            peace

            So what is your stance on this?

            I am not sure I understand the meaning. If you could tell me, in plain English, what your interpritation of that section is, maybe I can then answer your question (which I would love to do).

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              unknownuser
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              ???

              ???

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                No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                Can you please explain what a Quran-only Christian is? ???

                Furthermore, anyone who submits to God alone is a Muslim (Submitter).

                I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                  unknownuser
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                  quran only 19er submitter Muslim

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                    No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                    So it has many meanings depending on the context?

                    some people say it means "God-fearing". I would say in basic terms "righteous, keeping the balance in society, following God's laws, conscientious, forethoughtful, etc. etc."

                    I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                      No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                      quran only 19er submitter Muslim

                      Submitter = Muslim
                      Same word, different language

                      I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                        unknownuser
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                        Submitter = Muslim
                        Same word, different language

                        you have very good knowledge of arabic language elhamdulillah, are you a native speaker?

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                          Rev_John
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                          Can you please explain what a Quran-only Christian is? ???

                          Furthermore, anyone who submits to God alone is a Muslim (Submitter).

                          I'm not sure what a Quran only Christian is as most Christians would reject the Quran as it does not fit in with their belief in the trinity or the so-called divinity of Jesus, but I do know what a God-alone Christian is, or a One-God Christian, because I am one.

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                            unknownuser
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                            I am not sure I understand the meaning. If you could tell me, in plain English, what your interpritation of that section is, maybe I can then answer your question (which I would love to do).

                            As far as i am aware Gods people are;

                            those who guard their chastity, Except with their wives.

                            Whats your stance regarding this?

                            Thanks.

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                              unknownuser
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                              Can you please explain what a Quran-only Christian is? ???

                              Furthermore, anyone who submits to God alone is a Muslim (Submitter).

                              I believe the quran is a book inspired by God to a christian- according to my understanding.

                              That is why it is denying trinity.

                              So anybody following the true quran can be a christian but without the belief in the trinity.

                              Many people all over the world submit to God- so whether they call themselves Muslim or not , they would be muslim-i think.

                              God Bless.

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                                Rev_John
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                                As far as i am aware Gods people are;

                                Whats your stance regarding this?

                                Thanks.

                                Well of course I agree with that statement

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                                  Rev_John
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                                  I believe the quran is a book inspired by God to a christian- according to my understanding.

                                  That is why it is denying trinity.

                                  So anybody following the true quran can be a christian but without the belief in the trinity.

                                  Many people all over the world submit to God- so whether they call themselves Muslim or not , they would be muslim-i think.

                                  God Bless.

                                  I agree, I am a non-trinitarian Christian, and I find no fault with the Quran or with Islam, but I am not Muslim in the modern understanding of the word but, of course am in the real meaning of the word.

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                                    liquiddharma
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                                    I guess I'm a non-quran only Muslim. Subud shia natural law rational monotheist. I think the real Quran is with God.

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                                      Rev_John
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                                      I guess I'm a non-quran only Muslim. Subud shia natural law rational monotheist. I think the real Quran is with God.

                                      So that makes you a God-alone Muslim? If so, you and most people on here (including the God-alone Christians).

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                                        nsws1988
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                                        you have very good knowledge of arabic language elhamdulillah, are you a native speaker?

                                        rotfl

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                                          No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                          you have very good knowledge of arabic language elhamdulillah, are you a native speaker?

                                          Of course! laugh

                                          I said that because you put them side-by-side.

                                          I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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