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    No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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    What does Muttaq?n mean? (sorry to sound ignorant, but I do not understand Arabic)

    Seeking to journey through life in security = Protect oneself from disintegration of the personality = Journeying in security = Being careful = Getting empowered against evil = Avoid overstepping the laws = Exercising caution = Preserving the 'self' against deterioration = Good conduct = Building character = Live a life upright = Fear the consequences of violating Divine Commands = Observing = Being mindful of the Creator = Remaining conscious of the Divinely ordained Values = Taking precaution = Being watchful against error.

    I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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      Seeking to journey through life in security = Protect oneself from disintegration of the personality = Journeying in security = Being careful = Getting empowered against evil = Avoid overstepping the laws = Exercising caution = Preserving the 'self' against deterioration = Good conduct = Building character = Live a life upright = Fear the consequences of violating Divine Commands = Observing = Being mindful of the Creator = Remaining conscious of the Divinely ordained Values = Taking precaution = Being watchful against error.

      So it has many meanings depending on the context?

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        unknownuser
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        How is it depicted in the Quran?

        Here is another example;

        Waallatheena hum lifuroojihim hafithoona

        And those who guard their chastity,

        | - and those| - they/them/they are/those are | - null| - protecting/observing/guarding/ safekeeping (p) |
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        Illa AAala azwajihim awma malakat aymanuhum fa-innahum ghayru maloomeena
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        Except with their wives, those whom their right hands possess,- for (then) they are not to be blamed,

        peace

        So what is your stance on this?

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          Rev_John
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          Here is another example;

          Waallatheena hum lifuroojihim hafithoona

          And those who guard their chastity,

          | - and those| - they/them/they are/those are | - null| - protecting/observing/guarding/ safekeeping (p) |
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          Illa AAala azwajihim awma malakat aymanuhum fa-innahum ghayru maloomeena
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          Except with their wives, those whom their right hands possess,- for (then) they are not to be blamed,

          peace

          So what is your stance on this?

          I am not sure I understand the meaning. If you could tell me, in plain English, what your interpritation of that section is, maybe I can then answer your question (which I would love to do).

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            ???

            ???

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              No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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              Can you please explain what a Quran-only Christian is? ???

              Furthermore, anyone who submits to God alone is a Muslim (Submitter).

              I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                quran only 19er submitter Muslim

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                  No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                  So it has many meanings depending on the context?

                  some people say it means "God-fearing". I would say in basic terms "righteous, keeping the balance in society, following God's laws, conscientious, forethoughtful, etc. etc."

                  I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                    No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                    quran only 19er submitter Muslim

                    Submitter = Muslim
                    Same word, different language

                    I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                      Submitter = Muslim
                      Same word, different language

                      you have very good knowledge of arabic language elhamdulillah, are you a native speaker?

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                        Rev_John
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                        Can you please explain what a Quran-only Christian is? ???

                        Furthermore, anyone who submits to God alone is a Muslim (Submitter).

                        I'm not sure what a Quran only Christian is as most Christians would reject the Quran as it does not fit in with their belief in the trinity or the so-called divinity of Jesus, but I do know what a God-alone Christian is, or a One-God Christian, because I am one.

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                          unknownuser
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                          I am not sure I understand the meaning. If you could tell me, in plain English, what your interpritation of that section is, maybe I can then answer your question (which I would love to do).

                          As far as i am aware Gods people are;

                          those who guard their chastity, Except with their wives.

                          Whats your stance regarding this?

                          Thanks.

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                            Can you please explain what a Quran-only Christian is? ???

                            Furthermore, anyone who submits to God alone is a Muslim (Submitter).

                            I believe the quran is a book inspired by God to a christian- according to my understanding.

                            That is why it is denying trinity.

                            So anybody following the true quran can be a christian but without the belief in the trinity.

                            Many people all over the world submit to God- so whether they call themselves Muslim or not , they would be muslim-i think.

                            God Bless.

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                              Rev_John
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                              As far as i am aware Gods people are;

                              Whats your stance regarding this?

                              Thanks.

                              Well of course I agree with that statement

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                                I believe the quran is a book inspired by God to a christian- according to my understanding.

                                That is why it is denying trinity.

                                So anybody following the true quran can be a christian but without the belief in the trinity.

                                Many people all over the world submit to God- so whether they call themselves Muslim or not , they would be muslim-i think.

                                God Bless.

                                I agree, I am a non-trinitarian Christian, and I find no fault with the Quran or with Islam, but I am not Muslim in the modern understanding of the word but, of course am in the real meaning of the word.

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                                  I guess I'm a non-quran only Muslim. Subud shia natural law rational monotheist. I think the real Quran is with God.

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                                    I guess I'm a non-quran only Muslim. Subud shia natural law rational monotheist. I think the real Quran is with God.

                                    So that makes you a God-alone Muslim? If so, you and most people on here (including the God-alone Christians).

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                                      nsws1988
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                                      you have very good knowledge of arabic language elhamdulillah, are you a native speaker?

                                      rotfl

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                                        No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                        you have very good knowledge of arabic language elhamdulillah, are you a native speaker?

                                        Of course! laugh

                                        I said that because you put them side-by-side.

                                        I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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