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    quran only 19er submitter Muslim

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      No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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      So it has many meanings depending on the context?

      some people say it means "God-fearing". I would say in basic terms "righteous, keeping the balance in society, following God's laws, conscientious, forethoughtful, etc. etc."

      I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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        No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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        quran only 19er submitter Muslim

        Submitter = Muslim
        Same word, different language

        I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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          Submitter = Muslim
          Same word, different language

          you have very good knowledge of arabic language elhamdulillah, are you a native speaker?

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            Rev_John
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            Can you please explain what a Quran-only Christian is? ???

            Furthermore, anyone who submits to God alone is a Muslim (Submitter).

            I'm not sure what a Quran only Christian is as most Christians would reject the Quran as it does not fit in with their belief in the trinity or the so-called divinity of Jesus, but I do know what a God-alone Christian is, or a One-God Christian, because I am one.

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              I am not sure I understand the meaning. If you could tell me, in plain English, what your interpritation of that section is, maybe I can then answer your question (which I would love to do).

              As far as i am aware Gods people are;

              those who guard their chastity, Except with their wives.

              Whats your stance regarding this?

              Thanks.

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                unknownuser
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                Can you please explain what a Quran-only Christian is? ???

                Furthermore, anyone who submits to God alone is a Muslim (Submitter).

                I believe the quran is a book inspired by God to a christian- according to my understanding.

                That is why it is denying trinity.

                So anybody following the true quran can be a christian but without the belief in the trinity.

                Many people all over the world submit to God- so whether they call themselves Muslim or not , they would be muslim-i think.

                God Bless.

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                  Rev_John
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                  As far as i am aware Gods people are;

                  Whats your stance regarding this?

                  Thanks.

                  Well of course I agree with that statement

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                    I believe the quran is a book inspired by God to a christian- according to my understanding.

                    That is why it is denying trinity.

                    So anybody following the true quran can be a christian but without the belief in the trinity.

                    Many people all over the world submit to God- so whether they call themselves Muslim or not , they would be muslim-i think.

                    God Bless.

                    I agree, I am a non-trinitarian Christian, and I find no fault with the Quran or with Islam, but I am not Muslim in the modern understanding of the word but, of course am in the real meaning of the word.

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                      I guess I'm a non-quran only Muslim. Subud shia natural law rational monotheist. I think the real Quran is with God.

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                        I guess I'm a non-quran only Muslim. Subud shia natural law rational monotheist. I think the real Quran is with God.

                        So that makes you a God-alone Muslim? If so, you and most people on here (including the God-alone Christians).

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                          you have very good knowledge of arabic language elhamdulillah, are you a native speaker?

                          rotfl

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                            No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                            you have very good knowledge of arabic language elhamdulillah, are you a native speaker?

                            Of course! laugh

                            I said that because you put them side-by-side.

                            I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                              O0

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                                I agree, I am a non-trinitarian Christian, and I find no fault with the Quran or with Islam, but I am not Muslim in the modern understanding of the word but, of course am in the real meaning of the word.

                                would like to know more people like that.

                                peace

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                                  Can you explain 'Subud shia natural law rational monotheist'?

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                                    would like to know more people like that.

                                    peace

                                    I am sure you do know people like that, they tend to keep quiet about it to save having arguments with fundamentalists.

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                                      I am sure you do know people like that, they tend to keep quiet about it to save having arguments with fundamentalists.

                                      My family is like this, and growing up in my catholic populated small town, my family and I would have been more than thrilled to have a church like yours to attend... joys of living in the middle of nowhere hmm

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                                        My family is like this, and growing up in my catholic populated small town, my family and I would have been more than thrilled to have a church like yours to attend... joys of living in the middle of nowhere hmm

                                        As I said in an answer to someone else, there can be a church like mine anywhere, all it needs is someone to start it.

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                                          liquiddharma
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                                          Can you explain 'Subud shia natural law rational monotheist'?

                                          Subud's not a religion, but a spiritual group, I'm using it as an adjective for it's influences on me. http//www.subud.org/english/english.Btalk.html

                                          I'm ethnically shi'ite, and whilst I don't believe in the whole messianic, unrealised eschatology that defines Shia'ism, I do like the devotional chanting that a visiting Maulana taught me.

                                          My theological beliefs about morality are somewhere between catholic natural law thinking and Kantianism, so maybe I should change that to "natural law kantianism"

                                          I'm copying Edip Yuksel on the "rational monotheist" part which I use to conclude my description. After all, monotheism is very rational, with the laws of causality and the complexity of the universe.

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