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A Question About Jinns

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    Bosnian_Thinker
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    Yes, i believe that they should critisize traditional islam, like female circumsization

    Female circumcision not a part of Islam. It's a tradition that is vile and unecessary and has nothing to do with Islam. This practice is very common in East Africa in predominantly Sunni countries such as Sudan and Somalia; it is a sick and morbid procedure.

    Here's an interesting "chart" of where female circumcision is practiced in Africa

    http//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Fgm_map.gif

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      Rev_John
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      Female circumcision not a part of Islam........... it is a sick and morbid procedure.

      bravo bravo bravo

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        srotu
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        When my brother got circumcised (at the age of , my mum asked me if I wanted to get circumcised too.

        o nope

        To this day, I can't quite get over that mindf***

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          Rev_John
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          When my brother got circumcised (at the age of , my mum asked me if I wanted to get circumcised too.

          nope

          To this day, I can't quite get over that mindf***

          You are kidding me!!!!!! How could she? I hope you said NO!

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            MUNZIR_ALI
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            You are kidding me!!!!!! o How could she?

            i'm male and circumsized!

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              Rev_John
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              i'm male and circumsized!

              I hope you were younger that 8, would be painful at that age.

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                srotu
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                You are kidding me!!!!!! How could she? I hope you said NO!

                I'd just read Waris Dirie's Desert Flower so of course I said no. I think she said it out of jest cos I was remarking that he was getting tons of money for all the pain. She was circumcised 'a little' as a baby and didn't think it was a huge deal.

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                  MUNZIR_ALI
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                  I hope you were younger that 8, would be painful at that age.

                  I was circumsized when I was 7 years old! muscle

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                    Rev_John
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                    I'd just read Waris Dirie's Desert Flower so of course I said no. I think she said it out of jest cos I was remarking that he was getting tons of money for all the pain. She was circumcised 'a little' as a baby and didn't think it was a huge deal.

                    If she was a baby, she wouldn't remember. I have read about the "full" circumcision of women. It is barbaric, outdated, and pagan.

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                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                      If she was a baby, she wouldn't remember. I have read about the "full" circumcision of women. It is barbaric, outdated, and pagan.

                      yes it is! brickwall

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                        srotu
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                        Definitely... another strike to the Sunnis, the prophet Muhammad apparently said in a hadith that cutting off 'a little' is okay nope

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                          Rev_John
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                          Definitely... another strike to the Sunnis, the prophet Muhammad apparently said in a hadith that cutting off 'a little' is okay nope

                          From what I have been told (I may be wrong) the prophet did not say anything in a hadith, they were made up after his death.

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                            srotu
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                            Well, hadiths are full of doo-doo anyway but for the sake of ah research

                            "When you circumcise then do not cut severely, since that is better for her and more pleasing to the husband." (Reported by Abu Dawud and Al-Baihaqee and declared Hasan by Shaikh Al-Albani)

                            Also, one of those ask-an-imam sort of sites http//www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543886

                            Seriously, wtf.

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                              nsws1988
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                              From what I have been told (I may be wrong) the prophet did not say anything in a hadith, they were made up after his death.

                              bravo

                              He wasn't allowed to either from what I understand from these verses...

                              Had he uttered any other teachings - We would have punished him - We would have stopped the revelations to him (644-46)

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                                Bosnian_Thinker
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                                bravo

                                He wasn't allowed to either from what I understand from these verses...

                                Had he uttered any other teachings - We would have punished him - We would have stopped the revelations to him (644-46)

                                Of course, you can show evidence like this to the Sunnis and Shi'ites but most of them won't listen.

                                Peace peace

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                                  MUNZIR_ALI
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                                  bravo

                                  He wasn't allowed to either from what I understand from these verses...

                                  Had he uttered any other teachings - We would have punished him - We would have stopped the revelations to him (644-46)

                                  bravo

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                                    Rev_John
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                                    bravo

                                    I am quite sure that no one who believes that God is love would condone the mutilation of women (or men for that matter)

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                                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                                      I am quite sure that no one who believes that God is love would condone the mutilation of women (or men for that matter)

                                      handshake bravo

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                                        Rami
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                                        I am quite sure that no one who believes that God is love would condone the mutilation of women (or men for that matter)

                                        But isn't male circumcision mandated by YHVH in His Torah??

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                                          No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                          bravo

                                          He wasn't allowed to either from what I understand from these verses...

                                          Correct.

                                          Had he uttered any other teachings - We would have punished him - We would have stopped the revelations to him (644-46)

                                          Inaccurate/erronous translation, plus you gave a wrong citation.

                                          6943 A revelation from the Lord of the worlds
                                          6944 And if he had ascribed his sayings/anything falsely to Us

                                          6945 We would have seized him by the right
                                          6946 Then, We would have severed his life-line
                                          6947 None of you would be able to prevent it

                                          6948 This is a reminder for the righteous
                                          6949 We know that some of you are deniers
                                          6950 And that it is a distress for the rejecters

                                          6951 It is the absolute truth

                                          I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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