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Isa ibn Maryam

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    rashidala
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    Rami,

    what really can bake a person's noodle is when you tell them that the majority of myths from Sumer (creator God, savior figure, flood.. dying/rising God) are there.

    Copied by the Jews later? makes one ponder lol. One needs not even go into the fact that pre-Yahwistic Jews had a Goddess and she was axed out when the patriarchy rose to power and the rabbinical reforms. ( Gotta love history which tells the whole truth that most religions would rather forget. )

    I might say, no disrespect intended, that a later holy book is just the earlier one with a new spin to it.

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      Rami
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      Rami,

      what really can bake a person's noodle is when you tell them that the majority of myths from Sumer (creator God, savior figure, flood.. dying/rising God) are there.

      Copied by the Jews later? makes one ponder lol. One needs not even go into the fact that pre-Yahwistic Jews had a Goddess and she was axed out when the patriarchy rose to power and the rabbinical reforms. ( Gotta love history which tells the whole truth that most religions would rather forget. )

      I might say, no disrespect intended, that a later holy book is just the earlier one with a new spin to it.

      And it's apparently a very smart spin indeed. Just note the obvious differences in eschatology.

      And you are right, history and archaeology tells what religion will never tell.

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        Rami
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        The promises in the Torah was apparently not coming true, people who followed the Law didn't live a long life and some dies without having children so the idea of reward after death was raised in Jewish thought to compensate which slipped into the Quran.

        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnaPxPPvvP0

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          Ahmad_Bilal
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          The promises in the Torah was apparently not coming true, people who followed the Law didn't live a long life and some dies without having children so the idea of reward after death was raised in Jewish thought to compensate which slipped into the Quran.

          http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnaPxPPvvP0

          So, you believe the Qur'aan is a fabrication, modeled after the Torah as a way to spread Muhammad's personal beliefs?

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            No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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            So, you believe the Qur'aan is a fabrication, modeled after the Torah as a way to spread Muhammad's personal beliefs?

            His beliefs are a mystery...

            I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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              Rami
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              His beliefs are a mystery...

              rotfl Owwww! Are you afraid?

              Me without the Quran is like a fish without water.

              I am just stating the apparent. Looks may be deceiving as they say.

              But heck Islam is still a Jewish Messianic apocalyptic sect for the destruction of the Roman influence over Jerusalem. Zoroastrian eschatology was the necessary mobilizer and motivator for this crusade. Sorry. I can't help it. yay

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                unknownuser
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                Me without the Quran is like a fish without water.

                Fish without water yay

                http//www.totalhealthbreakthroughs.com/newsletter/images/issue17/recipes.jpg

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                  Rev_John
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                  Fish without water yay

                  http//www.totalhealthbreakthroughs.com/newsletter/images/issue17/recipes.jpg

                  Mmmmmm! looks tasty! eat

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                    Ahmad_Bilal
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                    But heck Islam is still a Jewish Messianic apocalyptic sect for the destruction of the Roman influence over Jerusalem. Zoroastrian eschatology was the necessary mobilizer and motivator for this crusade.

                    Yeah, okay... )

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                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                      Mmmmmm! looks tasty! eat

                      eat eat eat eat

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