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    belH
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    Peace All,

    WHO IS THE BIGGEST LOOSER.

    Is he the one who steals ideas of others and then promoting it as his?

    Ayman instead of promoting your proposed Calender as it is your idea, instead please call it THE VEDIC CALENDER...do not steal others ideas

    At least, we did not do that, rather, we are fighting and promoting a 1400 years old calender that has not been changed since, and above all, does not violate the Quran.

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      belH
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      offtopic I'm sorry, I know this is off topic, but I cannot stop being amazed when I see these photos of the phases of the moon. So beautiful.

      Then say

      Our Lord, you have not created this in vain, glory to You, spare us the retribution of the Fire

      Peace

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        Ahmad_Bilal
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        Stop idolizing me by claiming that I created the full-moon. )

        I had to laugh at this statement... rotfl

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          noble
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          Peace

          Dude learn to speak English.
          I am tired of this...
          loser not LOOSER (and stop shouting btw)...
          we are fighting and promoting a 1400 years old calender < --- how can you fight and promote something at the same time?

          Get a grip, you might get a heart attack... rotfl

          Peace All,

          WHO IS THE BIGGEST LOOSER.

          Is he the one who steals ideas of others and then promoting it as his?

          Ayman instead of promoting your proposed Calender as it is your idea, instead please call it THE VEDIC CALENDER...do not steal others ideas

          At least, we did not do that, rather, we are fighting and promoting a 1400 years old calender that has not been changed since, and above all, does not violate the Quran.

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            Q_student
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            Peace

            Dude learn to speak English.
            I am tired of this...
            loser not LOOSER (and stop shouting btw)...
            we are fighting and promoting a 1400 years old calender < --- how can you fight and promote something at the same time?

            Get a grip, you might get a heart attack... rotfl

            Peace
            As far as Quran is concerned ,english does not matter but Classical Arabic does matter which neither you nor Ayman knows it.
            Regards

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              No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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              Peace
              As far as Quran is concerned ,english does not matter but Classical Arabic does matter which neither you nor Ayman knows it.
              Regards

              I guess Classical Arabic is to Ayman and theNabster as English is to you. laugh

              I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                noble
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                Peace Q_S
                oki but how can i understand you if you do not express yourself properly, and you annoy me shouting using caps letters?
                ???
                do you think shouting and putting on massive pretty gifs, some from idolatry websites (fertility moon for crying out loud!),
                are going to convince me?!
                until now, none of what your "group" put forward convinced me...
                you are very rude and obnoxious, spoilt, and whoever disagrees with you in this thread you call an Ayman follower who is Satanic
                and a Kafir...
                you are not acting as muslims, believers, let alone dai's... so please go away...

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                  noble
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                  Peace progressive
                  my arabic is ok, i just have not practiced it for donkey's years, but i can understand and read almost everything thrown at me, as I was fluent in my teens, and I am one of the rare ones who had the luck of learning sahraoui arabic in my formative years which is the closest you can get to the arabic written in the Quran...

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                    No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                    Peace theNabster,

                    Peace progressive
                    my arabic is ok, i just have not practiced it for donkey's years, but i can understand and read almost everything thrown at me, as I was fluent in my teens, and I am one of the rare ones who had the luck of learning sahraoui arabic in my formative years which is the closest you can get to the arabic written in the Quran...

                    I just made a point based on QS' statement. I didnt really mean to say anything about your Arabic or Ayman's directly (since I didnt even know if what he said was true); rather, I wanted to make a point about QS' English.

                    I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                      noble
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                      peace progressive,
                      i was getting a little bit cranky...
                      apologies if i offended you...
                      salam
                      Noble

                      Peace theNabster,

                      I just made a point based on QS' statement. I didnt really mean to say anything about your Arabic or Ayman's directly (since I didnt even know if what he said was true); rather, I wanted to make a point about QS' English.

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                        No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                        peace progressive,
                        i was getting a little bit cranky...
                        apologies if i offended you...
                        salam
                        Noble

                        No offense taken. I only clarified what I meant before in my last post. peace

                        I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                          Q_student
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                          Peace progressive
                          my arabic is ok, i just have not practiced it for donkey's years, but i can understand and read almost everything thrown at me, as I was fluent in my teens, and I am one of the rare ones who had the luck of learning sahraoui arabic in my formative years which is the closest you can get to the arabic written in the Quran...

                          Peace
                          Knowing spoken of today does not mean necessarily you know the Classical arabic also. It is the reason Ayman does not know who to extract roots of words ,does not know the difference between Definite and Proper nouns , does not know that the Proper nouns cannot be translated ,does not know what the diptote is and consequently he cannot Recognise them.

                          Regards

                          Regards

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                            Peace

                            Found this site www.karaite-korner.org and in it, it mentions that the Jews believe through their text of the following

                            1. The beginning of months in the Biblical calendar according to the visibility of the Crescent New Moon

                            2. The beginning of years in the Biblical calendar according to the state of the barley crops (Abib) in the Land of Israel.

                            3. Ps 81,3 Blow on a horn for the Hodesh (New Moon)
                              On the Keseh (Full Moon) for the Day of our Hag (Feast)."

                            I don't know if this has relevance to the topic, specially as it is quotes outside the Quran and also its a site belonging to Karaism sect of Judaism. So it is open to scrutiny. However, I could not pass it by when I saw the simularities to begginning of month as being the visibility of the crescent new moon and also the begining of the year being linked to a particular event which happens according to the seasons. What I don't know is the actual time of the season these barley crops reach a certain state to start the count or finish the count of a year. It also mentions on the site of using a 13th month in a leap. I don't know if this is helpful but I thought I post it.

                            Peace

                            Hope

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                              noble
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                              Peace
                              Rules of language come after language. There is no such a thing as classical arabic.
                              What you call classical is just a snapshot decided by academics in Al-Azhar or Al-Madinah.
                              The only thing i can tell you is if Allah promised that he will preserve the Quran, he will also
                              preserve the ability to understand it.
                              The arabic i learnt was from nomad tribe in the sahara which was pure arabic tongue, my grand parents and their
                              ancestors were arab tribes leaders.

                              Peace
                              Knowing spoken of today does not mean necessarily you know the Classical arabic also. It is the reason Ayman does not know who to extract roots of words ,does not know the difference between Definite and Proper nouns , does not know that the Proper nouns cannot be translated ,does not know what the diptote is and consequently he cannot Recognise them.

                              Regards

                              Regards

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                                noble
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                                Peace Hope

                                Thanks, this is very helpful.

                                Salam

                                Noble

                                Peace

                                Found this site www.karaite-korner.org and in it, it mentions that the Jews believe through their text of the following

                                1. The beginning of months in the Biblical calendar according to the visibility of the Crescent New Moon

                                2. The beginning of years in the Biblical calendar according to the state of the barley crops (Abib) in the Land of Israel.

                                3. Ps 81,3 Blow on a horn for the Hodesh (New Moon)
                                  On the Keseh (Full Moon) for the Day of our Hag (Feast)."

                                I don't know if this has relevance to the topic, specially as it is quotes outside the Quran and also its a site belonging to Karaism sect of Judaism. So it is open to scrutiny. However, I could not pass it by when I saw the simularities to begginning of month as being the visibility of the crescent new moon and also the begining of the year being linked to a particular event which happens according to the seasons. What I don't know is the actual time of the season these barley crops reach a certain state to start the count or finish the count of a year. It also mentions on the site of using a 13th month in a leap. I don't know if this is helpful but I thought I post it.

                                Peace

                                Hope

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                                  Q_student
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                                  Peace
                                  Rules of language come after language. There is no such a thing as classical arabic.
                                  What you call classical is just a snapshot decided by academics in Al-Azhar or Al-Madinah.
                                  The only thing i can tell you is if Allah promised that he will preserve the Quran, he will also
                                  preserve the ability to understand it.
                                  The arabic i learnt was from nomad tribe in the sahara which was pure arabic tongue, my grand parents and their
                                  ancestors were arab tribes leaders.

                                  Peace brother
                                  Spoken language is always different from the literary language. Secondly language of one era is not exactly the same as that of another era. For example ,you will see a lot of difference between todays' english and the enlish of Shakspear's era.The same is true for MSA and Classical Arabic.

                                  Regards

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                                    hope4
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                                    The only thing i can tell you is if Allah promised that he will preserve the Quran, he will also
                                    preserve the ability to understand it.

                                    Peace theNabster

                                    I agree with your statement. I don't think and this is only my thoughts that God ment to preserve the Quranic language but the meaning. This is evident from the language changing over the years and writing styles.

                                    Peace

                                    Hope

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                                      Peace everyone,

                                      WHO IS THE BIGGEST LOOSER.
                                      Is he the one who steals ideas of others and then promoting it as his?
                                      Ayman instead of promoting your proposed Calender as it is your idea, instead please call it THE VEDIC CALENDER...do not steal others ideas
                                      At least, we did not do that, rather, we are fighting and promoting a 1400 years old calender that has not been changed since, and above all, does not violate the Quran.

                                      This is probably the most intellectually bankrupt argument since Farida's hilarious babble that I was a "secret agent".

                                      Peace,

                                      Ayman

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                                        ayman
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                                        Peace Q_student,

                                        As far as Quran is concerned ,english does not matter but Classical Arabic does matter which neither you nor Ayman knows it.

                                        If you knew Classical Arabic then you would have known that the language of the great reading is not Classical Arabic.

                                        If you knew anything about any Arabic then you would have been able to read the Alif that is occasionally found in the great reading at the end of Thamuda. In Egypt we have a fitting famous example for ignorant blind followers like you who can't even read an Alif but are too arrogant to realize it

                                        Peace,

                                        Ayman

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                                          belH
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                                          Peace Q_student,

                                          If you knew Classical Arabic then you would have known that the language of the great reading is not Classical Arabic.

                                          If you knew anything about any Arabic then you would have been able to read the Alif that is occasionally found in the great reading at the end of Thamuda. In Egypt we have a fitting famous example for ignorant blind followers like you who can't even read an Alif but are too arrogant to realize it

                                          Peace,

                                          Ayman

                                          Egyptian...Interesting to know.
                                          By the way, the below arabic words fit you more

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