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  4. THE QURAN CONFIRMS: TODAY'S BIBLE IS UNCHANGED

THE QURAN CONFIRMS: TODAY'S BIBLE IS UNCHANGED

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    Q_student
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    Peace,

    The phrase "They change the words from their (right) places" could mean that they tampered with the text of the Book. However, the second possibility, that the true meaning was distorted, not the text itself, (see also Surah 5, Ma'idah, verse 44) will have to be given preference in the light of the wider context (see above) which clearly shows that

    Would you please let us know where does it say that "text was not changed" ?
    Thanks
    Regards

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      MUNZIR_ALI
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      Peace all,
      Please read this article and then let us analyze its content

      http//www.arabicbible.com/islam/bible.htm

      Hopefully we can reach to the Truth about Today's Bible and Torah.

      Looking forward for your valuable Comments.
      Peace

      Nice article. But itsn't very convincing.

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        jibreel
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        that is a silly article. I get the sense that the author treats the Bible as if it was a single book. The bible is a collection of books and at least 40 distinct writers can be observed through its pages.

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          abdullah_m
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          "The author lovingly pleads with you to pray to God to reveal to you who Jesus really is!"

          Arabic Christians really scare me.

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            belH
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            Peace all,
            I will promptly reply but after reading more comments...I want to draw your attention to the author Logic when saying

            Muslims and Christians believe in the infallibility of the original Biblical manuscripts. But many adherents of Islam think that today's Bible has undergone substantial changes with regard to its early manuscripts and their translated versions. However, the Quran does not support this claim unanimously! In fact it makes it clear that the Bible, known as the Torah and the Injil, was found reliable in Muhammad's (p.b.u.h) time, the sixth century. To prove that the twentieth century Bible is still authentic it only has to be compared with a copy from the sixth century.

            Peace

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              Q_student
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              Peace all,
              I will promptly reply but after reading more comments...I want to draw your attention to the author Logic when saying

              Muslims and Christians believe in the infallibility of the original Biblical manuscripts. But many adherents of Islam think that today's Bible has undergone substantial changes with regard to its early manuscripts and their translated versions. However, the Quran does not support this claim unanimously! In fact it makes it clear that the Bible, known as the Torah and the Injil, was found reliable in Muhammad's (p.b.u.h) time, the sixth century. To prove that the twentieth century Bible is still authentic it only has to be compared with a copy from the sixth century.

              Peace

              Peace

              Even if we accept it was not distorted at the time of revelation of the Quran. What is the evidence that it was not distorted later? What is the reason for so many versions of bible? Are all of them true ?
              Regards
              Regards

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                hope4
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                Peace

                This might help 101 contradictions in the Bible

                http//www.ipci.co.za/frameset.asp

                Peace

                Hope

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                  Rev_John
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                  Peace

                  This might help 101 contradictions in the Bible

                  http//www.ipci.co.za/frameset.asp

                  Peace

                  Hope

                  Maybe I missed it, but I could not find 101 contradictions on this link

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                    nsws1988
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                    Maybe I missed it, but I could not find 101 contradictions on this link

                    near the bottom, on the right

                    use ctrl+f and search for contradictions

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                      unknownuser
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                      near the bottom, on the right

                      use ctrl+f and search for contradictions

                      offtopic

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                        nsws1988
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                        fftopic

                        actually i kindly helped rev john find the article, which is the same topic of this thread
                        there was no need for that fftopic

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                          Rev_John
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                          actually i kindly helped rev john find the article, which is the same topic of this thread
                          there was no need for that fftopic

                          Thank you, I will try again

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                            Ahmad_Bilal
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                            Peace Belal,

                            I will promptly reply but after reading more comments...I want to draw your attention to the author Logic when saying

                            Muslims and Christians believe in the infallibility of the original Biblical manuscripts. But many adherents of Islam think that today's Bible has undergone substantial changes with regard to its early manuscripts and their translated versions. However, the Quran does not support this claim unanimously! In fact it makes it clear that the Bible, known as the Torah and the Injil, was found reliable in Muhammad's (p.b.u.h) time, the sixth century. To prove that the twentieth century Bible is still authentic it only has to be compared with a copy from the sixth century.

                            Again, like I previously mentioned, this is FALSE. The author of that article bases his views on the idea that the "Injiyl" is the "new testament", which is totally wrong. When it refers to the scriptures of the people, the Qur'aan implies that the Jews study the Torah, while the Nazarenes study the Injiyl. In fact, it even states that Jews and Nazarenes follow the "same book", and this is because the Nazarenes are still bound by the Torah... Christians are never mentioned (positively) in the Qur'aan, and therefore, the collection of Christian scriptures is not accepted as revealed or inspired scripture by the Qur'aan. In other words, the Injiyl and the "new testament" are two completely different writings...

                            The Christian Bible canon may have also been preserved during the time of Muhammad, as have many of their ideologies. However, all of these sources have been refuted in the Qur'aan (i.e. virgin birth, divinity of Jesus, Trinitarian godhead, atonement for sins, etc.)...

                            Peace,

                            Ahmad

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                              MUNZIR_ALI
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                              fftopic

                              fftopic fftopic fftopic fftopic fftopic

                              You dislike when someone helps another person? ???

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                                abdullah_m
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                                Sorry if this is also a bit off-topic, but I can't understand how Sura 19 does not support the virgin birth?

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                                  Ahmad_Bilal
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                                  Sorry if this is also a bit off-topic, but I can't understand how Sura 19 does not support the virgin birth?

                                  Contrary to popular opinion, sura 19 of the Qur'aan does not support the idea of the virgin birth. This is a preconceived notion that was derived from a knowledge of Christianity... If you'd never heard of the idea regarding a virgin birth, and you'd never been confronted with the Christian idea of the "Virgin Mary", and the first story you'd ever heard about Mary or Jesus was from the Qur'aan, would you interpret sura 19 as saying that Jesus had no father? Or would you interpret it as saying that he was a human like all other humans, conceived the same way all humans are conceived?

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                                    Rami
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                                    The Quran is closer to the NT than the OT.

                                    -Good works
                                    -Charity
                                    -No burnt offerings
                                    -Prayer
                                    -Afterlife
                                    -Jesus the Messiah
                                    -No death penalties

                                    Islam is a form of adjusted Christianity!

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                                      Ahmad_Bilal
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                                      The Quran is closer to the NT than the OT.

                                      -Good works
                                      -Charity
                                      -No burnt offerings
                                      -Prayer
                                      -Afterlife
                                      -Jesus the Messiah
                                      -No death penalties

                                      Islam is a form of adjusted Christianity!

                                      These things make it closer to the NT than the Tanakh?!

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                                        Rami
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                                        These things make it closer to the NT than the Tanakh?!

                                        To be honest...YES!

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                                          Rev_John
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                                          actually i kindly helped rev john find the article, which is the same topic of this thread
                                          there was no need for that fftopic

                                          I read it, I like it. bravo

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