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THE QURAN CONFIRMS: TODAY'S BIBLE IS UNCHANGED

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    Rev_John
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    Peace

    This might help 101 contradictions in the Bible

    http//www.ipci.co.za/frameset.asp

    Peace

    Hope

    Maybe I missed it, but I could not find 101 contradictions on this link

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      nsws1988
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      Maybe I missed it, but I could not find 101 contradictions on this link

      near the bottom, on the right

      use ctrl+f and search for contradictions

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        unknownuser
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        near the bottom, on the right

        use ctrl+f and search for contradictions

        offtopic

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          nsws1988
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          fftopic

          actually i kindly helped rev john find the article, which is the same topic of this thread
          there was no need for that fftopic

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            Rev_John
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            actually i kindly helped rev john find the article, which is the same topic of this thread
            there was no need for that fftopic

            Thank you, I will try again

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              Ahmad_Bilal
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              Peace Belal,

              I will promptly reply but after reading more comments...I want to draw your attention to the author Logic when saying

              Muslims and Christians believe in the infallibility of the original Biblical manuscripts. But many adherents of Islam think that today's Bible has undergone substantial changes with regard to its early manuscripts and their translated versions. However, the Quran does not support this claim unanimously! In fact it makes it clear that the Bible, known as the Torah and the Injil, was found reliable in Muhammad's (p.b.u.h) time, the sixth century. To prove that the twentieth century Bible is still authentic it only has to be compared with a copy from the sixth century.

              Again, like I previously mentioned, this is FALSE. The author of that article bases his views on the idea that the "Injiyl" is the "new testament", which is totally wrong. When it refers to the scriptures of the people, the Qur'aan implies that the Jews study the Torah, while the Nazarenes study the Injiyl. In fact, it even states that Jews and Nazarenes follow the "same book", and this is because the Nazarenes are still bound by the Torah... Christians are never mentioned (positively) in the Qur'aan, and therefore, the collection of Christian scriptures is not accepted as revealed or inspired scripture by the Qur'aan. In other words, the Injiyl and the "new testament" are two completely different writings...

              The Christian Bible canon may have also been preserved during the time of Muhammad, as have many of their ideologies. However, all of these sources have been refuted in the Qur'aan (i.e. virgin birth, divinity of Jesus, Trinitarian godhead, atonement for sins, etc.)...

              Peace,

              Ahmad

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                MUNZIR_ALI
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                fftopic

                fftopic fftopic fftopic fftopic fftopic

                You dislike when someone helps another person? ???

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                  Sorry if this is also a bit off-topic, but I can't understand how Sura 19 does not support the virgin birth?

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                    Ahmad_Bilal
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                    Sorry if this is also a bit off-topic, but I can't understand how Sura 19 does not support the virgin birth?

                    Contrary to popular opinion, sura 19 of the Qur'aan does not support the idea of the virgin birth. This is a preconceived notion that was derived from a knowledge of Christianity... If you'd never heard of the idea regarding a virgin birth, and you'd never been confronted with the Christian idea of the "Virgin Mary", and the first story you'd ever heard about Mary or Jesus was from the Qur'aan, would you interpret sura 19 as saying that Jesus had no father? Or would you interpret it as saying that he was a human like all other humans, conceived the same way all humans are conceived?

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                      The Quran is closer to the NT than the OT.

                      -Good works
                      -Charity
                      -No burnt offerings
                      -Prayer
                      -Afterlife
                      -Jesus the Messiah
                      -No death penalties

                      Islam is a form of adjusted Christianity!

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                        Ahmad_Bilal
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                        The Quran is closer to the NT than the OT.

                        -Good works
                        -Charity
                        -No burnt offerings
                        -Prayer
                        -Afterlife
                        -Jesus the Messiah
                        -No death penalties

                        Islam is a form of adjusted Christianity!

                        These things make it closer to the NT than the Tanakh?!

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                          Rami
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                          These things make it closer to the NT than the Tanakh?!

                          To be honest...YES!

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                            Rev_John
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                            actually i kindly helped rev john find the article, which is the same topic of this thread
                            there was no need for that fftopic

                            I read it, I like it. bravo

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                              hope4
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                              I read it, I like it. bravo

                              Peace Rev.John

                              You should like it, as it confirms a lot of what you say

                              Peace

                              Hope

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                                The Christian Bible canon may have also been preserved during the time of Muhammad, as have many of their ideologies. However, all of these sources have been refuted in the Qur'aan (i.e. virgin birth, divinity of Jesus, Trinitarian godhead, atonement for sins, etc.)...

                                Peace,

                                Ahmad

                                Peace Ahamed,

                                It is indisputable that The Quran confirms The Virgin Birth of Jesus. Here where we argued about

                                http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16187.0

                                Moreover, Please quote from the Bible where it Talks about divinity of Jesus, Trinitarian godhead, atonement for sins.

                                Maybe we can discover error in the Translation.

                                Peace

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                                  Ahmad_Bilal
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                                  To be honest...YES!

                                  Okay, if you say so... )

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                                    Ahmad_Bilal
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                                    It is indisputable that The Quran confirms The Virgin Birth of Jesus.

                                    Is this a typo, or did you mean to say this? How does the Qur'aan "undisputably" confirm the virgin births? If anything, that thread clearly proves, from the Qur'aan, that the virgin birth concept is a myth, not a reality.

                                    Moreover, Please quote from the Bible where it Talks about divinity of Jesus, Trinitarian godhead, atonement for sins.

                                    I don't think they're translation errors, bro. Some of them may be, but others clearly mention modern Christian ideologies, which are refuted by the Qur'aan. For example
                                    (1) Jesus' death and atonement for mankind's sins (1 Corinthians 153, 4)
                                    (2) Jesus' divinity and personal authority (John 11-4; Philippians 26, 7)
                                    (3) Trinitarian Godhead (1 John 57)

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                                      Rev_John
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                                      Peace Rev.John

                                      You should like it, as it confirms a lot of what you say

                                      Peace

                                      Hope

                                      Yes it does, I will be using some of it on Sunday.

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                                        hope4
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                                        Yes it does, I will be using some of it on Sunday.

                                        OMG I hope they don't get aggressive, some of my christian friends were very hostile when I pointed it out to them. Did you read the one on swine? LEVITICUS 118 and MARK 513

                                        Peace

                                        Hope

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                                          Rev_John
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                                          OMG I hope they don't get aggressive, some of my christian friends were very hostile when I pointed it out to them. Did you read the one on swine? LEVITICUS 118 and MARK 513

                                          Peace

                                          Hope

                                          No, they will be fine with it, in fact I think most will laugh.

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