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Common misconceptions about Islam - help needed

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  • WakasW Offline
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    Wakas
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    #77

    peace,

    Yes, the ahadith mention her playing with dolls/toys, however this doesn't really give anything definite, and it becomes moot with the clear criteria in AQ. Interestingly, it was later discovered that many traditional tafsirs say the same thing too, i.e. post puberty. Some of those tafsirs also contradict themselves in other parts with reference to this point. No surprise there.

    The terms man and woman are not as clear cut and it does not always use these terms. Since the criteria of AQ is clear, including this extra aspect was felt unnecessary. It was considered to include whenever waiting periods are mentioned they are always in reference to menstruation or their equivalent and also no sex during menses etc, all implying this is the norm, but again, the criteria in AQ is clear, so felt this extra info was unnecessary.

    Yes, feedback by email is going to be done, when the site is publicised/launched.

    What will you do then?

    The site is primarily for non-Muslims. We are not really interested in using this site to engage with Muslims. That will be for another project in the pipeline.

    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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      Roshan
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      The site is primarily for non-Muslims. We are not really interested in using this site to engage with Muslims. That will be for another project in the pipeline.

      Peace

      Be careful not to underestimate the knowledge of 'non-Muslims'. Some are aware of some hadith.

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        Wakas
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        #79

        peace all,

        I would like to get feedback/suggestions for the section "Find Out More" when this is clicked on. If you wish to write something for this section, feel free.

        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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          truthseeker11
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          #80

          Peace Wakas, everyone,

          Another misconception is that the qur'aan has 114 chapters whereas it has been shown how chapter 9 is continuation of chapter 8 and that the qur'aan actually has 113 chapters only.

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            Wakas
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            peace ts11,

            As far as I'm aware, that is not a misconception amongst "non-Muslims". The site is primarily for "non-Muslims", as stated previously.

            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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              YAYA
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              #82

              Do we worship Muhammad or Allah
              How can they force marriage on their children?
              Why are honor killings allowed?
              Why do men have to grow a beard?
              and so on
              ALLAU ALAMU

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                truthseeker11
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                #83

                Peace Wakas,

                I am a little confused by what you mean by "non-Muslims". Is the following what you mean by "non-Muslims"?

                Non-Muslims = anybody other than Muslims (e.g. muslims, Christians, Jews etc.)

                If that is true then a small minority of non-Muslims, i.e. "muslims" might not have the misconception but the majority of "non-Muslims", e.g. Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists etc. have the misconception that the qur'aan has 114 chapters.

                Am I missing something here?

                I would also request you to change the word "Muslims" and "Islam" to "muslims" and "islam" in the misconceptions page. For example

                Gold and silver are banned for Muslims ----> this is not a misconception because gold and silver are actually banned for "Muslims" according to the pagan religion by the name of "Islam", but they are not banned for "muslims" according to "islam". The title should thus be changed to

                Misconception Gold and silver are banned for "muslims".

                Similarly,

                Dogs are not allowed to be kept by Muslims ----> this is not a misconception because dogs are actually not allowed to be kept by "Muslims" according to the pagan religion known as "Islam", but they are allowed to be kept by "muslims" according to "islam". The title should thus be changed to

                Misconception Dogs are not allowed to be kept by "muslims".

                Etc. etc. etc.

                The body of these misconceptions should also be changed accordingly. The title of the main website should also be changed to Common Misconceptions about "islam" and "muslims", instead of Common Misconceptions about Islam and Muslims.

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                  Wakas
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                  #84

                  peace ts11,

                  By "non-Muslim" I mean anyone not classing themselves as "Muslim".

                  And as to your re-wording, yes, this was already discussed previously in the thread.

                  All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                    nsws1988
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                    #85

                    Do we worship Muhammad or Allah

                    It depends whether you reject hadeeths as they contradict the Quran or reject the Quranic verses against hadeeths

                    How can they force marriage on their children?

                    I'm sure hadeeths can answer that. 6 year old Aisha?

                    Why are honor killings allowed?

                    Because according to hadeeths, fornicators are stoned till they die

                    Why do men have to grow a beard?

                    Because of hadeeths and idolising the Prophet Mohammed

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                      Wakas
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                      #86

                      Done
                      http//www.misconceptions-about-islam.com/more.htm
                      feedback?

                      The major delay has been getting content, especially the "wife beating" article, but this is now done and the Arabic info within it is being checked over.

                      It is likely there will be a links section, thus any suggestions for links/books to basic/introductory info on islam/quran welcome. Remember, the site is primarily for non-Muslims.

                      The accompanying site that will be more aesthetically pleasing and based on content management system software will be quite flexible in look, thus if anyone wishes to suggest pics/background, even design artwork, comic book strips, for certain misconception pages etc feel free. Also, promotional/slideshow presentation videos etc.

                      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                        unknownuser
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                        Salaam,
                        I had an friend who told me what he really thought of Islam & Muslims one day.
                        His misconceptions were;
                        Mohammad was a Paedophile
                        You're all terrorists
                        You hate Dogs
                        You can't be married to non-Muslims
                        A bunch of dumb Arabs wrote The Qur'an
                        It's a desert religion for desert people
                        You have to bring your children up Muslim
                        You have to go to the Mosque
                        You can't make songs about Islam
                        I haven't seen him since! voodoo

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                          FAR
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                          peace all,

                          Almost a year after this thread was started, not one response was given to any of the misconceptions listed.

                          But it is always better to light a candle than to curse the darkness is it not? ;D

                          An initial draft for the following misconceptions have now been done

                          Misconception Death for apostasy
                          Misconception Stoning to death allowed
                          Misconception Must be "Muslim" or you will go to Hell
                          Misconception No freedom of religion
                          Misconception Women confined to houses
                          Misconception Statues/images forbidden
                          Misconception A man and woman cannot be alone together
                          Misconception Religion and science/reason/knowledge are not compatible
                          Misconception Alcohol is forbidden
                          Misconception Islam and The Quran promotes a clash of civilisations
                          Misconception Islam promotes honour killings of women
                          Misconception Allah is the God for Muslims
                          Misconception Forced marriage is allowed in Islam
                          Misconception Muslims reject Jesus
                          Misconception Muhammad was the founder of Islam
                          Misconception All Muslims are Arabs
                          Misconception Islam was spread by the sword
                          Misconception Islam and The Quran promotes fighting, war and terrorism
                          Misconception Two female witnesses are equivalent to one male witness
                          Misconception Women receive less than men in issues of inheritance
                          Misconception Males/Females are required to be circumcised
                          Misconception Martyrs will receive 72 virgins in paradise
                          Misconception Woman/Eve created from the rib of Man/Adam
                          Misconception Islam and The Quran promotes suicide bombing
                          Misconception Muslim men have to grow a beard
                          Misconception Gold and silver are banned for Muslims
                          Misconception Islam and The Quran promotes 'jihad' or 'holy war'
                          Misconception Islam and The Quran promotes slavery
                          Misconception In Islam homosexuals must be put to death
                          Misconception Polygamy - Muslim men can have as many wives as they wish

                          The following remain unfinished, thus if anyone wishes to write something, feel free

                          women are required to cover up
                          wife beating is allowed
                          women have no rights in Islam
                          the punishment for theft is cutting off the thief's hands

                          The site will be catered to misconceptions about islam from non-Muslims, not misconceptions about Islam from traditional Muslims, although some content will overlap. If anyone can think of other misconceptions, feel free to mention them.

                          Site launch will be with or without the unifinished ones above, in mid April, GW.

                          "Misconception In Islam homosexuals must be put to death" - google the following as it helps define homosexuality in it's proper quranic sense. "andrea dworkin" - wiki that one and go to her relationship. (or should i post the link?) google "swedish homosexual brain science".

                          These two provide a solution to the assumed scriptural silence on lesbianism.

                          "Misconception Statues/images forbidden" - yes they are, it is related to quran 2101102 in the arabic term of what is translated as magic.

                          "Misconception Martyrs will receive 72 virgins in paradise" - that's the lowest number, the rest of us will get more.

                          "Misconception Islam and The Quran promotes 'jihad' or 'holy war'" - we must fight against oppression, otherwise quran 4738 the god will remove us with another.

                          "Misconception Muslim men have to grow a beard" - we are apes... we shouldn't lie. I also understand that clean facial hair helps with bronchial hygiene.

                          "Misconception Two female witnesses are equivalent to one male witness" - only when promoting more women in courts... women don't like being alone.

                          "Misconception Islam was spread by the sword" - well if you want to spread butter and only have a sword, well you would need to spread islam with it. And it was in the early days. Though the bread didn't get to the mouths of people until after the ummayyads fell. And then everyone was so eager to eat after the forced starvation.

                          "Misconception All Muslims are Arabs" - inshallah, inshallah. We shall all one day be arabs, and speak arabic.

                          "Misconception Stoning to death allowed" - it's called guns

                          "Misconception A man and woman cannot be alone together" - aye they get married or let him drink her milk.

                          "Misconception Allah is the God for Muslims" - the god always answers our prayers.

                          "Misconception Women confined to houses" - these days it's women confined out of houses.

                          "Misconception Islam promotes honour killings of women" - euthenasia, involuntary and voluntary.

                          "Misconception Alcohol is forbidden" - you've had too much, you should go home.

                          "Misconception Must be "Muslim" or you will go to Hell" - hell on earth for sure.

                          "Misconception Males/Females are required to be circumcised" - if you don't then they'll always be connected to their mothers wombs.

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                            Wakas
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                            #89

                            FAR, the site is primarily based on solid Quranic references and logic.

                            Therefore, the points you bring up are irrelevant as they are not based on these things. I recommend reading the forum rules
                            http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=8177.0

                            All further posts not on topic will be deleted.

                            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                              Wakas
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                              Update

                              Multiple new languages added courtesy of google translate.

                              Two new misconceptions added

                              Misconception Islam is a religion
                              Misconception Democracy and islam are not compatible

                              Feedback welcome etc.

                              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                hope4
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                                Misconception Islam is a religion

                                Selam Wakas

                                I am starting to believe more and more that Islam is not a religion but what the artice above states it is 'one who surrenders or makes peace'. I am also coming to a conclusion that what is important in Islam is not our rituals but our intentions and commitments for the benefit of mankind to live in peace and prosperity. I may be corrected but this is my thoughts.

                                Peace

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                                  ayyub
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                                  Selam Wakas

                                  I am starting to believe more and more that Islam is not a religion but what the artice above states it is 'one who surrenders or makes peace'. I am also coming to a conclusion that what is important in Islam is not our rituals but our intentions and commitments for the benefit of mankind to live in peace and prosperity. I may be corrected but this is my thoughts.

                                  Peace

                                  Islam itself is not a religion, however religions have been made based on Islam.

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                                    hope4
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                                    Islam itself is not a religion, however religions have been made based on Islam.

                                    Selam ayyub

                                    Very well put.

                                    Peace

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                                      FAR
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                                      Update

                                      Multiple new languages added courtesy of google translate.

                                      Two new misconceptions added

                                      Misconception Islam is a religion
                                      Misconception Democracy and islam are not compatible

                                      Feedback welcome etc.

                                      I cannot accept islam being anything but the religion.

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                                        nsws1988
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                                        I cannot accept islam being anything but the religion.

                                        Peace

                                        How would you define the word religion?

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                                          FAR
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                                          Peace

                                          How would you define the word religion?

                                          According to the etymology of the term religion and comparing the root of Dal-ya-nun to find matches between the two.

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