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    truthseeker11
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    Peace Wakas, everyone,

    Another misconception is that the qur'aan has 114 chapters whereas it has been shown how chapter 9 is continuation of chapter 8 and that the qur'aan actually has 113 chapters only.

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      Wakas
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      peace ts11,

      As far as I'm aware, that is not a misconception amongst "non-Muslims". The site is primarily for "non-Muslims", as stated previously.

      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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        YAYA
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        Do we worship Muhammad or Allah
        How can they force marriage on their children?
        Why are honor killings allowed?
        Why do men have to grow a beard?
        and so on
        ALLAU ALAMU

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          truthseeker11
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          Peace Wakas,

          I am a little confused by what you mean by "non-Muslims". Is the following what you mean by "non-Muslims"?

          Non-Muslims = anybody other than Muslims (e.g. muslims, Christians, Jews etc.)

          If that is true then a small minority of non-Muslims, i.e. "muslims" might not have the misconception but the majority of "non-Muslims", e.g. Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists etc. have the misconception that the qur'aan has 114 chapters.

          Am I missing something here?

          I would also request you to change the word "Muslims" and "Islam" to "muslims" and "islam" in the misconceptions page. For example

          Gold and silver are banned for Muslims ----> this is not a misconception because gold and silver are actually banned for "Muslims" according to the pagan religion by the name of "Islam", but they are not banned for "muslims" according to "islam". The title should thus be changed to

          Misconception Gold and silver are banned for "muslims".

          Similarly,

          Dogs are not allowed to be kept by Muslims ----> this is not a misconception because dogs are actually not allowed to be kept by "Muslims" according to the pagan religion known as "Islam", but they are allowed to be kept by "muslims" according to "islam". The title should thus be changed to

          Misconception Dogs are not allowed to be kept by "muslims".

          Etc. etc. etc.

          The body of these misconceptions should also be changed accordingly. The title of the main website should also be changed to Common Misconceptions about "islam" and "muslims", instead of Common Misconceptions about Islam and Muslims.

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            Wakas
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            peace ts11,

            By "non-Muslim" I mean anyone not classing themselves as "Muslim".

            And as to your re-wording, yes, this was already discussed previously in the thread.

            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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              nsws1988
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              Do we worship Muhammad or Allah

              It depends whether you reject hadeeths as they contradict the Quran or reject the Quranic verses against hadeeths

              How can they force marriage on their children?

              I'm sure hadeeths can answer that. 6 year old Aisha?

              Why are honor killings allowed?

              Because according to hadeeths, fornicators are stoned till they die

              Why do men have to grow a beard?

              Because of hadeeths and idolising the Prophet Mohammed

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                Wakas
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                Done
                http//www.misconceptions-about-islam.com/more.htm
                feedback?

                The major delay has been getting content, especially the "wife beating" article, but this is now done and the Arabic info within it is being checked over.

                It is likely there will be a links section, thus any suggestions for links/books to basic/introductory info on islam/quran welcome. Remember, the site is primarily for non-Muslims.

                The accompanying site that will be more aesthetically pleasing and based on content management system software will be quite flexible in look, thus if anyone wishes to suggest pics/background, even design artwork, comic book strips, for certain misconception pages etc feel free. Also, promotional/slideshow presentation videos etc.

                All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                  unknownuser
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                  Salaam,
                  I had an friend who told me what he really thought of Islam & Muslims one day.
                  His misconceptions were;
                  Mohammad was a Paedophile
                  You're all terrorists
                  You hate Dogs
                  You can't be married to non-Muslims
                  A bunch of dumb Arabs wrote The Qur'an
                  It's a desert religion for desert people
                  You have to bring your children up Muslim
                  You have to go to the Mosque
                  You can't make songs about Islam
                  I haven't seen him since! voodoo

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                    FAR
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                    peace all,

                    Almost a year after this thread was started, not one response was given to any of the misconceptions listed.

                    But it is always better to light a candle than to curse the darkness is it not? ;D

                    An initial draft for the following misconceptions have now been done

                    Misconception Death for apostasy
                    Misconception Stoning to death allowed
                    Misconception Must be "Muslim" or you will go to Hell
                    Misconception No freedom of religion
                    Misconception Women confined to houses
                    Misconception Statues/images forbidden
                    Misconception A man and woman cannot be alone together
                    Misconception Religion and science/reason/knowledge are not compatible
                    Misconception Alcohol is forbidden
                    Misconception Islam and The Quran promotes a clash of civilisations
                    Misconception Islam promotes honour killings of women
                    Misconception Allah is the God for Muslims
                    Misconception Forced marriage is allowed in Islam
                    Misconception Muslims reject Jesus
                    Misconception Muhammad was the founder of Islam
                    Misconception All Muslims are Arabs
                    Misconception Islam was spread by the sword
                    Misconception Islam and The Quran promotes fighting, war and terrorism
                    Misconception Two female witnesses are equivalent to one male witness
                    Misconception Women receive less than men in issues of inheritance
                    Misconception Males/Females are required to be circumcised
                    Misconception Martyrs will receive 72 virgins in paradise
                    Misconception Woman/Eve created from the rib of Man/Adam
                    Misconception Islam and The Quran promotes suicide bombing
                    Misconception Muslim men have to grow a beard
                    Misconception Gold and silver are banned for Muslims
                    Misconception Islam and The Quran promotes 'jihad' or 'holy war'
                    Misconception Islam and The Quran promotes slavery
                    Misconception In Islam homosexuals must be put to death
                    Misconception Polygamy - Muslim men can have as many wives as they wish

                    The following remain unfinished, thus if anyone wishes to write something, feel free

                    women are required to cover up
                    wife beating is allowed
                    women have no rights in Islam
                    the punishment for theft is cutting off the thief's hands

                    The site will be catered to misconceptions about islam from non-Muslims, not misconceptions about Islam from traditional Muslims, although some content will overlap. If anyone can think of other misconceptions, feel free to mention them.

                    Site launch will be with or without the unifinished ones above, in mid April, GW.

                    "Misconception In Islam homosexuals must be put to death" - google the following as it helps define homosexuality in it's proper quranic sense. "andrea dworkin" - wiki that one and go to her relationship. (or should i post the link?) google "swedish homosexual brain science".

                    These two provide a solution to the assumed scriptural silence on lesbianism.

                    "Misconception Statues/images forbidden" - yes they are, it is related to quran 2101102 in the arabic term of what is translated as magic.

                    "Misconception Martyrs will receive 72 virgins in paradise" - that's the lowest number, the rest of us will get more.

                    "Misconception Islam and The Quran promotes 'jihad' or 'holy war'" - we must fight against oppression, otherwise quran 4738 the god will remove us with another.

                    "Misconception Muslim men have to grow a beard" - we are apes... we shouldn't lie. I also understand that clean facial hair helps with bronchial hygiene.

                    "Misconception Two female witnesses are equivalent to one male witness" - only when promoting more women in courts... women don't like being alone.

                    "Misconception Islam was spread by the sword" - well if you want to spread butter and only have a sword, well you would need to spread islam with it. And it was in the early days. Though the bread didn't get to the mouths of people until after the ummayyads fell. And then everyone was so eager to eat after the forced starvation.

                    "Misconception All Muslims are Arabs" - inshallah, inshallah. We shall all one day be arabs, and speak arabic.

                    "Misconception Stoning to death allowed" - it's called guns

                    "Misconception A man and woman cannot be alone together" - aye they get married or let him drink her milk.

                    "Misconception Allah is the God for Muslims" - the god always answers our prayers.

                    "Misconception Women confined to houses" - these days it's women confined out of houses.

                    "Misconception Islam promotes honour killings of women" - euthenasia, involuntary and voluntary.

                    "Misconception Alcohol is forbidden" - you've had too much, you should go home.

                    "Misconception Must be "Muslim" or you will go to Hell" - hell on earth for sure.

                    "Misconception Males/Females are required to be circumcised" - if you don't then they'll always be connected to their mothers wombs.

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                      Wakas
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                      FAR, the site is primarily based on solid Quranic references and logic.

                      Therefore, the points you bring up are irrelevant as they are not based on these things. I recommend reading the forum rules
                      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=8177.0

                      All further posts not on topic will be deleted.

                      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                        Wakas
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                        Update

                        Multiple new languages added courtesy of google translate.

                        Two new misconceptions added

                        Misconception Islam is a religion
                        Misconception Democracy and islam are not compatible

                        Feedback welcome etc.

                        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                          hope4
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                          Misconception Islam is a religion

                          Selam Wakas

                          I am starting to believe more and more that Islam is not a religion but what the artice above states it is 'one who surrenders or makes peace'. I am also coming to a conclusion that what is important in Islam is not our rituals but our intentions and commitments for the benefit of mankind to live in peace and prosperity. I may be corrected but this is my thoughts.

                          Peace

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                            ayyub
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                            Selam Wakas

                            I am starting to believe more and more that Islam is not a religion but what the artice above states it is 'one who surrenders or makes peace'. I am also coming to a conclusion that what is important in Islam is not our rituals but our intentions and commitments for the benefit of mankind to live in peace and prosperity. I may be corrected but this is my thoughts.

                            Peace

                            Islam itself is not a religion, however religions have been made based on Islam.

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                              hope4
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                              Islam itself is not a religion, however religions have been made based on Islam.

                              Selam ayyub

                              Very well put.

                              Peace

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                                FAR
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                                Update

                                Multiple new languages added courtesy of google translate.

                                Two new misconceptions added

                                Misconception Islam is a religion
                                Misconception Democracy and islam are not compatible

                                Feedback welcome etc.

                                I cannot accept islam being anything but the religion.

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                                  nsws1988
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                                  I cannot accept islam being anything but the religion.

                                  Peace

                                  How would you define the word religion?

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                                    FAR
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                                    Peace

                                    How would you define the word religion?

                                    According to the etymology of the term religion and comparing the root of Dal-ya-nun to find matches between the two.

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                                      unknownuser
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                                      Peace Wakas, all

                                      I have 2 misconceptions about islam that can be added.

                                      Misconception Prophet Muhammed knew about the future.

                                      650 Say, "I do not say to you that I posses
                                      God's treasures, nor do I know the
                                      future, nor do I say to you that I am an
                                      angel. I merely follow what is inspired to
                                      me." Say, "Are the blind and the seer the
                                      same? Do you not think?"

                                      7188 Say, "I do not possess for myself any
                                      benefit or harm, except what God wills.
                                      If I could know the future, then I would
                                      have increased my good fortune, and no
                                      harm would have come to me. I am but a
                                      warner and a bearer of good news to a
                                      people who acknowledge."

                                      8124 He has no knowledge of the future.

                                      1131 "Nor do I say to you that I have the
                                      treasures of God, nor do I know the
                                      future, nor do I say that I am an angel,
                                      nor do I say to those whom your eyes
                                      look down upon that God will not
                                      grant them any good. God is more
                                      aware of what is in them; in such case I
                                      would be among the wicked."

                                      Only God knows about the future

                                      7187 They ask you regarding the Hour When will be its time? Say Its knowledge is with my Lord, none can reveal its coming except He. It is heavy through the heavens and the earth; it will not come to you except suddenly. They ask you, as if you are responsible for it! Say Its knowledge is with God, but most of the people do not know.

                                      3134 With God is the knowledge regarding the Hour. And He sends down the rain, and He knows what is inside the wombs. No soul knows what it may gain tomorrow, nor does any soul know in which land it will die. God is Knowledgeable, Expert.

                                      3363 The people ask you regarding the Hour. Say Its knowledge is with God. And for all that you know the Hour may be near!

                                      3179 God was not to leave the believers as they were without distinguishing the rotten from the good. And God was not to let you know the future, but God chooses from His messengers whom He wishes; so believe in God and His messengers. And if you believe and are righteous, then you will have a great recompense.

                                      Misconception That a woman can not travel alone.

                                      http//islamic-practices.suite101.com/article.cfm/women_cannot_go_to_hajj_without_a_mahram

                                      As we know, no verses in the quran tell us that women can not travel alone, can only travel for 1 day without marham etc. Here are the verses in the quran that tells us that whoever wants can travel (whether male or female)

                                      596 Lawful for you is the catch of the sea, to
                                      eat it as enjoyment for you and for those
                                      who travel; and forbidden for you is the
                                      catch of the land as long as you are
                                      under restriction; and be aware of God
                                      to whom you will be summoned.

                                      2184 A number of days. Whoever of you is ill
                                      or traveling, then the same number from
                                      different days; and as for those who can
                                      do so but with difficulty, they may
                                      redeem by feeding the needy. Whoever
                                      does good voluntarily, it is better for
                                      him. If you fast, it is better for you if you
                                      knew.

                                      4100 Whoever emigrates in the cause of God
                                      will find in the land many spoils and a
                                      bounty. Whoever leaves his home
                                      emigrating to God and His messenger,
                                      then is overcome by death; his reward
                                      has fallen to God, and God is Forgiving,
                                      Compassionate.

                                      2218 Those who have acknowledged, and
                                      those who have emigrated and strived in
                                      the cause of God; these are seeking
                                      God's compassion, and God is
                                      Forgiving, Compassionate.

                                      3195 Their Lord answered them "I do not
                                      waste the work of any worker from
                                      among you, be you male or female, you
                                      are all as each other. For those who
                                      emigrated and were driven-out from
                                      their homes and were harmed in My
                                      cause, and they fought and were killed, I
                                      will remit for them their sins and admit
                                      them to paradises with rivers flowing
                                      beneath; a reward from God; and God
                                      has the best reward."

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                                        unknownuser
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                                        I recommend this article below. The article is about the difference between islamic practices today and quranic principles. You can get ideas for your website from this article

                                        http//www.submission.org/corruption.html

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                                          Jafar
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                                          Islam itself is not a religion, however religions have been made based on Islam.

                                          Correct.. "Submission To God's Will" is not a sect or religion... "Submission To God's Will" is an ATTITUDE.
                                          Not ALL sectarian movement / religions are based on "Submission To God's Will".
                                          Infact most of them requires their sect members to be "Submission To Ulema/Priest/Cleric's Will".

                                          However; you can find the "Submission To God's Will" is infact a basic teaching which being described in many books considered as "holy" by those sectarian movements. Such as Tanakh, Gospel, Bhagavad Githa, Tao Te Ching, Rig Veda, Sutras etc..

                                          Salam / Peace

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