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Common misconceptions about Islam - help needed

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    Wakas
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    FAR, the site is primarily based on solid Quranic references and logic.

    Therefore, the points you bring up are irrelevant as they are not based on these things. I recommend reading the forum rules
    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=8177.0

    All further posts not on topic will be deleted.

    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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      Wakas
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      Update

      Multiple new languages added courtesy of google translate.

      Two new misconceptions added

      Misconception Islam is a religion
      Misconception Democracy and islam are not compatible

      Feedback welcome etc.

      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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        hope4
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        Misconception Islam is a religion

        Selam Wakas

        I am starting to believe more and more that Islam is not a religion but what the artice above states it is 'one who surrenders or makes peace'. I am also coming to a conclusion that what is important in Islam is not our rituals but our intentions and commitments for the benefit of mankind to live in peace and prosperity. I may be corrected but this is my thoughts.

        Peace

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          ayyub
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          Selam Wakas

          I am starting to believe more and more that Islam is not a religion but what the artice above states it is 'one who surrenders or makes peace'. I am also coming to a conclusion that what is important in Islam is not our rituals but our intentions and commitments for the benefit of mankind to live in peace and prosperity. I may be corrected but this is my thoughts.

          Peace

          Islam itself is not a religion, however religions have been made based on Islam.

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            hope4
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            Islam itself is not a religion, however religions have been made based on Islam.

            Selam ayyub

            Very well put.

            Peace

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              FAR
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              Update

              Multiple new languages added courtesy of google translate.

              Two new misconceptions added

              Misconception Islam is a religion
              Misconception Democracy and islam are not compatible

              Feedback welcome etc.

              I cannot accept islam being anything but the religion.

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                nsws1988
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                I cannot accept islam being anything but the religion.

                Peace

                How would you define the word religion?

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                  FAR
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                  Peace

                  How would you define the word religion?

                  According to the etymology of the term religion and comparing the root of Dal-ya-nun to find matches between the two.

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                    unknownuser
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                    Peace Wakas, all

                    I have 2 misconceptions about islam that can be added.

                    Misconception Prophet Muhammed knew about the future.

                    650 Say, "I do not say to you that I posses
                    God's treasures, nor do I know the
                    future, nor do I say to you that I am an
                    angel. I merely follow what is inspired to
                    me." Say, "Are the blind and the seer the
                    same? Do you not think?"

                    7188 Say, "I do not possess for myself any
                    benefit or harm, except what God wills.
                    If I could know the future, then I would
                    have increased my good fortune, and no
                    harm would have come to me. I am but a
                    warner and a bearer of good news to a
                    people who acknowledge."

                    8124 He has no knowledge of the future.

                    1131 "Nor do I say to you that I have the
                    treasures of God, nor do I know the
                    future, nor do I say that I am an angel,
                    nor do I say to those whom your eyes
                    look down upon that God will not
                    grant them any good. God is more
                    aware of what is in them; in such case I
                    would be among the wicked."

                    Only God knows about the future

                    7187 They ask you regarding the Hour When will be its time? Say Its knowledge is with my Lord, none can reveal its coming except He. It is heavy through the heavens and the earth; it will not come to you except suddenly. They ask you, as if you are responsible for it! Say Its knowledge is with God, but most of the people do not know.

                    3134 With God is the knowledge regarding the Hour. And He sends down the rain, and He knows what is inside the wombs. No soul knows what it may gain tomorrow, nor does any soul know in which land it will die. God is Knowledgeable, Expert.

                    3363 The people ask you regarding the Hour. Say Its knowledge is with God. And for all that you know the Hour may be near!

                    3179 God was not to leave the believers as they were without distinguishing the rotten from the good. And God was not to let you know the future, but God chooses from His messengers whom He wishes; so believe in God and His messengers. And if you believe and are righteous, then you will have a great recompense.

                    Misconception That a woman can not travel alone.

                    http//islamic-practices.suite101.com/article.cfm/women_cannot_go_to_hajj_without_a_mahram

                    As we know, no verses in the quran tell us that women can not travel alone, can only travel for 1 day without marham etc. Here are the verses in the quran that tells us that whoever wants can travel (whether male or female)

                    596 Lawful for you is the catch of the sea, to
                    eat it as enjoyment for you and for those
                    who travel; and forbidden for you is the
                    catch of the land as long as you are
                    under restriction; and be aware of God
                    to whom you will be summoned.

                    2184 A number of days. Whoever of you is ill
                    or traveling, then the same number from
                    different days; and as for those who can
                    do so but with difficulty, they may
                    redeem by feeding the needy. Whoever
                    does good voluntarily, it is better for
                    him. If you fast, it is better for you if you
                    knew.

                    4100 Whoever emigrates in the cause of God
                    will find in the land many spoils and a
                    bounty. Whoever leaves his home
                    emigrating to God and His messenger,
                    then is overcome by death; his reward
                    has fallen to God, and God is Forgiving,
                    Compassionate.

                    2218 Those who have acknowledged, and
                    those who have emigrated and strived in
                    the cause of God; these are seeking
                    God's compassion, and God is
                    Forgiving, Compassionate.

                    3195 Their Lord answered them "I do not
                    waste the work of any worker from
                    among you, be you male or female, you
                    are all as each other. For those who
                    emigrated and were driven-out from
                    their homes and were harmed in My
                    cause, and they fought and were killed, I
                    will remit for them their sins and admit
                    them to paradises with rivers flowing
                    beneath; a reward from God; and God
                    has the best reward."

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                      unknownuser
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                      I recommend this article below. The article is about the difference between islamic practices today and quranic principles. You can get ideas for your website from this article

                      http//www.submission.org/corruption.html

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                        Jafar
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                        Islam itself is not a religion, however religions have been made based on Islam.

                        Correct.. "Submission To God's Will" is not a sect or religion... "Submission To God's Will" is an ATTITUDE.
                        Not ALL sectarian movement / religions are based on "Submission To God's Will".
                        Infact most of them requires their sect members to be "Submission To Ulema/Priest/Cleric's Will".

                        However; you can find the "Submission To God's Will" is infact a basic teaching which being described in many books considered as "holy" by those sectarian movements. Such as Tanakh, Gospel, Bhagavad Githa, Tao Te Ching, Rig Veda, Sutras etc..

                        Salam / Peace

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                          unknownuser
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                          I have 2 misconception about islam that can be added.

                          Misconception Adam and Eve in islam.

                          Adam is not a person. Adam is mankind. And the woman by the name Eve is not in the quran. Eve is taken from christianity and added to islam.

                          Misconceptions Jesus being crucified on a cross

                          Jesus died a natural death. From history people have come to the conclusion that he most likely died in kashmir. The crucifixion is also taken from christianity.
                          And it is unquranic (not compatible with islam).

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                            unknownuser
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                            Salam

                            Here are 7 more misconceptions about islam

                            Misconception 1 Meat of different animals are forbidden to eat

                            Only meat of Pig is illegal.

                            Misconception 2 The Quranic verses can be abrogated

                            This is not compatible with quran. It is not a fact.

                            Misconception 3 Intercession is accepted in islam

                            The belief in the Prophet's intercession comes from hadith http//www.sunnah.org/ibadaat/tawassul.htm
                            But this belief is not compatible with Quran (See 651, 2254, 2122-123, 324 and other verses).

                            Misconception 4 Fatwas are compatible with islam

                            Misconception 5 That you have to say Shahada to become a muslim.

                            This is not Quranic. The Quran tells us the following about those who say shahada

                            Quran 631
                            When the hypocrites come to you they say We bear witness that you are the messenger of God. And God knows that you are His messenger, and God bears witness that the hypocrites are liars.

                            This is the greatest testimony

                            Quran 619
                            Say Which is the greatest testimony? Say God is witness between me and you, and He has inspired to me this Quran that I may warn you with it and whoever it reaches, that you are bearing witness that with God are other gods! Say I do not bear witness! Say He is only One god, and I am innocent of what you have set up!

                            Misconception 6 Only the Imams and sheykhs can interpret the Quran

                            This belief contradicts the following verses in the Quran ( See 5417, 5422).

                            Misconception 7 Sects are islamic

                            Sects are not compatible with islam. Prophet Muhammed was not a Sunni or Shia. These are later innovations.
                            The Quran tells people to not split their systems and become sects (See 3032).

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                              Wakas
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                              #102

                              peace David,

                              The site is primarily for "non-Muslims" as mentioned on this thread, but I will give some of those consideration. Some already have crossover to existing misconceptions.

                              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                unknownuser
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                                Peace Wakas

                                Okey, i see )

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                                  nsws1988
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                                  peace David,

                                  The site is primarily for "non-Muslims" as mentioned on this thread, but I will give some of those consideration. Some already have crossover to existing misconceptions.

                                  I like misconception 4. Many non-muslims assume that muslims have to follow fatwas and it is important to educate them on this.

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                                    noshield30
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                                    Hi i have a suggsestion, what about the misconception that the women is to be blamed and punished for being raped?

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                                      Jack
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                                      Salaam,

                                      Misconception Men are domineering over women ? Or...?
                                      Putting aside the 'DRB' portion of 434 for a moment..

                                      Not sure If this is the right place for this but I'd like a convincing argument against this. Something no traditionalist/male chauvinist* would have an answer for.

                                      *It seems such a view can be easily gathered by a certain way of reading AQ. It would be good to have a great counter argument against this.

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                                        unknownuser
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                                        Misconception Men are domineering over women ?

                                        in the real world? yes they are! sun

                                        ?those who are higher in physique and knowledge dominate"

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                                          Wakas
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                                          peace Jack, all,

                                          The way in which you phrased the misconception is not quite right, but I get the gist of what you mean. I think that this type of general subject needs to be specifically addressed point by point, and this is done in the site under various misconceptions.

                                          Re fatwa + others

                                          If a contributor wishes to write something specific to address a misconception, they are welcome. It is unlikely I will be writing new content for the site. As it stands, it is perhaps the most comprehensive site on the internet dealing with this subject.

                                          As a side note, I came across the following book recently, which is reasonable.

                                          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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