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    FAR
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    Peace

    How would you define the word religion?

    According to the etymology of the term religion and comparing the root of Dal-ya-nun to find matches between the two.

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      unknownuser
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      Peace Wakas, all

      I have 2 misconceptions about islam that can be added.

      Misconception Prophet Muhammed knew about the future.

      650 Say, "I do not say to you that I posses
      God's treasures, nor do I know the
      future, nor do I say to you that I am an
      angel. I merely follow what is inspired to
      me." Say, "Are the blind and the seer the
      same? Do you not think?"

      7188 Say, "I do not possess for myself any
      benefit or harm, except what God wills.
      If I could know the future, then I would
      have increased my good fortune, and no
      harm would have come to me. I am but a
      warner and a bearer of good news to a
      people who acknowledge."

      8124 He has no knowledge of the future.

      1131 "Nor do I say to you that I have the
      treasures of God, nor do I know the
      future, nor do I say that I am an angel,
      nor do I say to those whom your eyes
      look down upon that God will not
      grant them any good. God is more
      aware of what is in them; in such case I
      would be among the wicked."

      Only God knows about the future

      7187 They ask you regarding the Hour When will be its time? Say Its knowledge is with my Lord, none can reveal its coming except He. It is heavy through the heavens and the earth; it will not come to you except suddenly. They ask you, as if you are responsible for it! Say Its knowledge is with God, but most of the people do not know.

      3134 With God is the knowledge regarding the Hour. And He sends down the rain, and He knows what is inside the wombs. No soul knows what it may gain tomorrow, nor does any soul know in which land it will die. God is Knowledgeable, Expert.

      3363 The people ask you regarding the Hour. Say Its knowledge is with God. And for all that you know the Hour may be near!

      3179 God was not to leave the believers as they were without distinguishing the rotten from the good. And God was not to let you know the future, but God chooses from His messengers whom He wishes; so believe in God and His messengers. And if you believe and are righteous, then you will have a great recompense.

      Misconception That a woman can not travel alone.

      http//islamic-practices.suite101.com/article.cfm/women_cannot_go_to_hajj_without_a_mahram

      As we know, no verses in the quran tell us that women can not travel alone, can only travel for 1 day without marham etc. Here are the verses in the quran that tells us that whoever wants can travel (whether male or female)

      596 Lawful for you is the catch of the sea, to
      eat it as enjoyment for you and for those
      who travel; and forbidden for you is the
      catch of the land as long as you are
      under restriction; and be aware of God
      to whom you will be summoned.

      2184 A number of days. Whoever of you is ill
      or traveling, then the same number from
      different days; and as for those who can
      do so but with difficulty, they may
      redeem by feeding the needy. Whoever
      does good voluntarily, it is better for
      him. If you fast, it is better for you if you
      knew.

      4100 Whoever emigrates in the cause of God
      will find in the land many spoils and a
      bounty. Whoever leaves his home
      emigrating to God and His messenger,
      then is overcome by death; his reward
      has fallen to God, and God is Forgiving,
      Compassionate.

      2218 Those who have acknowledged, and
      those who have emigrated and strived in
      the cause of God; these are seeking
      God's compassion, and God is
      Forgiving, Compassionate.

      3195 Their Lord answered them "I do not
      waste the work of any worker from
      among you, be you male or female, you
      are all as each other. For those who
      emigrated and were driven-out from
      their homes and were harmed in My
      cause, and they fought and were killed, I
      will remit for them their sins and admit
      them to paradises with rivers flowing
      beneath; a reward from God; and God
      has the best reward."

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        unknownuser
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        I recommend this article below. The article is about the difference between islamic practices today and quranic principles. You can get ideas for your website from this article

        http//www.submission.org/corruption.html

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          Jafar
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          Islam itself is not a religion, however religions have been made based on Islam.

          Correct.. "Submission To God's Will" is not a sect or religion... "Submission To God's Will" is an ATTITUDE.
          Not ALL sectarian movement / religions are based on "Submission To God's Will".
          Infact most of them requires their sect members to be "Submission To Ulema/Priest/Cleric's Will".

          However; you can find the "Submission To God's Will" is infact a basic teaching which being described in many books considered as "holy" by those sectarian movements. Such as Tanakh, Gospel, Bhagavad Githa, Tao Te Ching, Rig Veda, Sutras etc..

          Salam / Peace

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            unknownuser
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            I have 2 misconception about islam that can be added.

            Misconception Adam and Eve in islam.

            Adam is not a person. Adam is mankind. And the woman by the name Eve is not in the quran. Eve is taken from christianity and added to islam.

            Misconceptions Jesus being crucified on a cross

            Jesus died a natural death. From history people have come to the conclusion that he most likely died in kashmir. The crucifixion is also taken from christianity.
            And it is unquranic (not compatible with islam).

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              unknownuser
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              Salam

              Here are 7 more misconceptions about islam

              Misconception 1 Meat of different animals are forbidden to eat

              Only meat of Pig is illegal.

              Misconception 2 The Quranic verses can be abrogated

              This is not compatible with quran. It is not a fact.

              Misconception 3 Intercession is accepted in islam

              The belief in the Prophet's intercession comes from hadith http//www.sunnah.org/ibadaat/tawassul.htm
              But this belief is not compatible with Quran (See 651, 2254, 2122-123, 324 and other verses).

              Misconception 4 Fatwas are compatible with islam

              Misconception 5 That you have to say Shahada to become a muslim.

              This is not Quranic. The Quran tells us the following about those who say shahada

              Quran 631
              When the hypocrites come to you they say We bear witness that you are the messenger of God. And God knows that you are His messenger, and God bears witness that the hypocrites are liars.

              This is the greatest testimony

              Quran 619
              Say Which is the greatest testimony? Say God is witness between me and you, and He has inspired to me this Quran that I may warn you with it and whoever it reaches, that you are bearing witness that with God are other gods! Say I do not bear witness! Say He is only One god, and I am innocent of what you have set up!

              Misconception 6 Only the Imams and sheykhs can interpret the Quran

              This belief contradicts the following verses in the Quran ( See 5417, 5422).

              Misconception 7 Sects are islamic

              Sects are not compatible with islam. Prophet Muhammed was not a Sunni or Shia. These are later innovations.
              The Quran tells people to not split their systems and become sects (See 3032).

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                Wakas
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                peace David,

                The site is primarily for "non-Muslims" as mentioned on this thread, but I will give some of those consideration. Some already have crossover to existing misconceptions.

                All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                  unknownuser
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                  Peace Wakas

                  Okey, i see )

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                    nsws1988
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                    peace David,

                    The site is primarily for "non-Muslims" as mentioned on this thread, but I will give some of those consideration. Some already have crossover to existing misconceptions.

                    I like misconception 4. Many non-muslims assume that muslims have to follow fatwas and it is important to educate them on this.

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                      noshield30
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                      Hi i have a suggsestion, what about the misconception that the women is to be blamed and punished for being raped?

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                        Jack
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                        Salaam,

                        Misconception Men are domineering over women ? Or...?
                        Putting aside the 'DRB' portion of 434 for a moment..

                        Not sure If this is the right place for this but I'd like a convincing argument against this. Something no traditionalist/male chauvinist* would have an answer for.

                        *It seems such a view can be easily gathered by a certain way of reading AQ. It would be good to have a great counter argument against this.

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                          unknownuser
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                          Misconception Men are domineering over women ?

                          in the real world? yes they are! sun

                          ?those who are higher in physique and knowledge dominate"

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                            Wakas
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                            peace Jack, all,

                            The way in which you phrased the misconception is not quite right, but I get the gist of what you mean. I think that this type of general subject needs to be specifically addressed point by point, and this is done in the site under various misconceptions.

                            Re fatwa + others

                            If a contributor wishes to write something specific to address a misconception, they are welcome. It is unlikely I will be writing new content for the site. As it stands, it is perhaps the most comprehensive site on the internet dealing with this subject.

                            As a side note, I came across the following book recently, which is reasonable.

                            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                              Jack
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                              peace Wakas,

                              Ahhh, good point there. It is misleading and vague as written above.

                              I'll start a new thread in hopes of compiling verses and go from there, GW. When dealing with non-Muslims , it is a subject that is often brought up.

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                                Wakas
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                                peace all,

                                www.misconceptions-about-islam.com

                                Now that the site has been up and running a while, I have been able to look at the web traffic to the site, e.g. which pages were viewed most etc. Some interesting information.

                                You may wish to have a look at the site and guess which 5 out of the 42 misconceptions are regularly viewed most. You may be surprised.

                                I will post the answers here shortly.

                                All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                  Nafi
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                                  peace all,

                                  www.misconceptions-about-islam.com

                                  Now that the site has been up and running a while, I have been able to look at the web traffic to the site, e.g. which pages were viewed most etc. Some interesting information.

                                  You may wish to have a look at the site and guess which 5 out of the 42 misconceptions are regularly viewed most. You may be surprised.

                                  Wakas, I was planning to ask you this question.

                                  I bet you the five most popular sections are among these six (had to put six down hmm)

                                  Music and singing forbidden
                                  A man and woman cannot be alone together
                                  Must be "Muslim" or you will go to Hell
                                  Death for apostasy
                                  Stoning to death allowed
                                  Alcohol is forbidden in all forms

                                  Also can you reveal the total cumulative hits you have recieved, and how many hits a month/week you recieve.

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                                    savage_carrot
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                                    Also can you reveal the total cumulative hits you have recieved, and how many hits a month/week you recieve.

                                    Seconded, I'd think one of the popular ones would be wife beating.

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                                      Raaajah
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                                      Wakas I would like to discuss about Music and singing, according to you they are not clearly forbidden in Islam

                                      The Quran does not clearly forbid music or singing....

                                      This word casts some doubts. I my self love Music and singing (listening) but there are some verses that need clarification, and I hope you can clarify those for me and many others. I know most of the singing without poetry is impossible but we have following Ayats

                                      Shall I inform you upon whom the devils descend?They descend upon every lying, sinful one,They incline their ears, and most of them are liars.
                                      http//www.everyayah.com/data/images_png/26_224.png
                                      And the Poets,- It is those straying in Evil, who follow them

                                      Thanks!

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                                        Ayisha
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                                        Wakas I would like to discuss about Music and singing, according to you they are not clearly forbidden in Islam

                                        This word casts some doubts. I my self love Music and singing (listening) but there are some verses that need clarification, and I hope you can clarify those for me and many others. I know most of the singing without poetry is impossible but we have following Ayats

                                        Shall I inform you upon whom the devils descend?They descend upon every lying, sinful one,They incline their ears, and most of them are liars.
                                        http//www.everyayah.com/data/images_png/26_224.png
                                        And the Poets,- It is those straying in Evil, who follow them

                                        Thanks!

                                        verse before that one

                                        26.223 They pass on what is heard and most of them are liars.

                                        bit like passing on hadith wouldnt you say?

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                                          Raaajah
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                                          Ayisha

                                          verse before that one
                                          26.223 They pass on what is heard and most of them are liars.
                                          bit like passing on hadith wouldnt you say?

                                          Ayisha
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                                          Raj, when did you answer for mazhar, there are plenty of unanswered questions of your own.
                                          I think Mazhar is more knowledgeable than me and does not need me to answer for him.
                                          Since, you kept on answering for many do whom i had conversation with.

                                          Ayisha

                                          I have not answered 'for' anyone else and I have managed to answer questions put to me.

                                          Ayisha

                                          ....and most of them are liars.

                                          The question was directed to WAKAS.

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