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    ayyub
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    Selam Wakas

    I am starting to believe more and more that Islam is not a religion but what the artice above states it is 'one who surrenders or makes peace'. I am also coming to a conclusion that what is important in Islam is not our rituals but our intentions and commitments for the benefit of mankind to live in peace and prosperity. I may be corrected but this is my thoughts.

    Peace

    Islam itself is not a religion, however religions have been made based on Islam.

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      hope4
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      Islam itself is not a religion, however religions have been made based on Islam.

      Selam ayyub

      Very well put.

      Peace

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        FAR
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        Update

        Multiple new languages added courtesy of google translate.

        Two new misconceptions added

        Misconception Islam is a religion
        Misconception Democracy and islam are not compatible

        Feedback welcome etc.

        I cannot accept islam being anything but the religion.

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          nsws1988
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          I cannot accept islam being anything but the religion.

          Peace

          How would you define the word religion?

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            FAR
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            Peace

            How would you define the word religion?

            According to the etymology of the term religion and comparing the root of Dal-ya-nun to find matches between the two.

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              unknownuser
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              Peace Wakas, all

              I have 2 misconceptions about islam that can be added.

              Misconception Prophet Muhammed knew about the future.

              650 Say, "I do not say to you that I posses
              God's treasures, nor do I know the
              future, nor do I say to you that I am an
              angel. I merely follow what is inspired to
              me." Say, "Are the blind and the seer the
              same? Do you not think?"

              7188 Say, "I do not possess for myself any
              benefit or harm, except what God wills.
              If I could know the future, then I would
              have increased my good fortune, and no
              harm would have come to me. I am but a
              warner and a bearer of good news to a
              people who acknowledge."

              8124 He has no knowledge of the future.

              1131 "Nor do I say to you that I have the
              treasures of God, nor do I know the
              future, nor do I say that I am an angel,
              nor do I say to those whom your eyes
              look down upon that God will not
              grant them any good. God is more
              aware of what is in them; in such case I
              would be among the wicked."

              Only God knows about the future

              7187 They ask you regarding the Hour When will be its time? Say Its knowledge is with my Lord, none can reveal its coming except He. It is heavy through the heavens and the earth; it will not come to you except suddenly. They ask you, as if you are responsible for it! Say Its knowledge is with God, but most of the people do not know.

              3134 With God is the knowledge regarding the Hour. And He sends down the rain, and He knows what is inside the wombs. No soul knows what it may gain tomorrow, nor does any soul know in which land it will die. God is Knowledgeable, Expert.

              3363 The people ask you regarding the Hour. Say Its knowledge is with God. And for all that you know the Hour may be near!

              3179 God was not to leave the believers as they were without distinguishing the rotten from the good. And God was not to let you know the future, but God chooses from His messengers whom He wishes; so believe in God and His messengers. And if you believe and are righteous, then you will have a great recompense.

              Misconception That a woman can not travel alone.

              http//islamic-practices.suite101.com/article.cfm/women_cannot_go_to_hajj_without_a_mahram

              As we know, no verses in the quran tell us that women can not travel alone, can only travel for 1 day without marham etc. Here are the verses in the quran that tells us that whoever wants can travel (whether male or female)

              596 Lawful for you is the catch of the sea, to
              eat it as enjoyment for you and for those
              who travel; and forbidden for you is the
              catch of the land as long as you are
              under restriction; and be aware of God
              to whom you will be summoned.

              2184 A number of days. Whoever of you is ill
              or traveling, then the same number from
              different days; and as for those who can
              do so but with difficulty, they may
              redeem by feeding the needy. Whoever
              does good voluntarily, it is better for
              him. If you fast, it is better for you if you
              knew.

              4100 Whoever emigrates in the cause of God
              will find in the land many spoils and a
              bounty. Whoever leaves his home
              emigrating to God and His messenger,
              then is overcome by death; his reward
              has fallen to God, and God is Forgiving,
              Compassionate.

              2218 Those who have acknowledged, and
              those who have emigrated and strived in
              the cause of God; these are seeking
              God's compassion, and God is
              Forgiving, Compassionate.

              3195 Their Lord answered them "I do not
              waste the work of any worker from
              among you, be you male or female, you
              are all as each other. For those who
              emigrated and were driven-out from
              their homes and were harmed in My
              cause, and they fought and were killed, I
              will remit for them their sins and admit
              them to paradises with rivers flowing
              beneath; a reward from God; and God
              has the best reward."

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                unknownuser
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                I recommend this article below. The article is about the difference between islamic practices today and quranic principles. You can get ideas for your website from this article

                http//www.submission.org/corruption.html

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                  Jafar
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                  Islam itself is not a religion, however religions have been made based on Islam.

                  Correct.. "Submission To God's Will" is not a sect or religion... "Submission To God's Will" is an ATTITUDE.
                  Not ALL sectarian movement / religions are based on "Submission To God's Will".
                  Infact most of them requires their sect members to be "Submission To Ulema/Priest/Cleric's Will".

                  However; you can find the "Submission To God's Will" is infact a basic teaching which being described in many books considered as "holy" by those sectarian movements. Such as Tanakh, Gospel, Bhagavad Githa, Tao Te Ching, Rig Veda, Sutras etc..

                  Salam / Peace

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                    unknownuser
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                    I have 2 misconception about islam that can be added.

                    Misconception Adam and Eve in islam.

                    Adam is not a person. Adam is mankind. And the woman by the name Eve is not in the quran. Eve is taken from christianity and added to islam.

                    Misconceptions Jesus being crucified on a cross

                    Jesus died a natural death. From history people have come to the conclusion that he most likely died in kashmir. The crucifixion is also taken from christianity.
                    And it is unquranic (not compatible with islam).

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                      unknownuser
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                      Salam

                      Here are 7 more misconceptions about islam

                      Misconception 1 Meat of different animals are forbidden to eat

                      Only meat of Pig is illegal.

                      Misconception 2 The Quranic verses can be abrogated

                      This is not compatible with quran. It is not a fact.

                      Misconception 3 Intercession is accepted in islam

                      The belief in the Prophet's intercession comes from hadith http//www.sunnah.org/ibadaat/tawassul.htm
                      But this belief is not compatible with Quran (See 651, 2254, 2122-123, 324 and other verses).

                      Misconception 4 Fatwas are compatible with islam

                      Misconception 5 That you have to say Shahada to become a muslim.

                      This is not Quranic. The Quran tells us the following about those who say shahada

                      Quran 631
                      When the hypocrites come to you they say We bear witness that you are the messenger of God. And God knows that you are His messenger, and God bears witness that the hypocrites are liars.

                      This is the greatest testimony

                      Quran 619
                      Say Which is the greatest testimony? Say God is witness between me and you, and He has inspired to me this Quran that I may warn you with it and whoever it reaches, that you are bearing witness that with God are other gods! Say I do not bear witness! Say He is only One god, and I am innocent of what you have set up!

                      Misconception 6 Only the Imams and sheykhs can interpret the Quran

                      This belief contradicts the following verses in the Quran ( See 5417, 5422).

                      Misconception 7 Sects are islamic

                      Sects are not compatible with islam. Prophet Muhammed was not a Sunni or Shia. These are later innovations.
                      The Quran tells people to not split their systems and become sects (See 3032).

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                        Wakas
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                        peace David,

                        The site is primarily for "non-Muslims" as mentioned on this thread, but I will give some of those consideration. Some already have crossover to existing misconceptions.

                        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                          unknownuser
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                          Peace Wakas

                          Okey, i see )

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                            nsws1988
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                            peace David,

                            The site is primarily for "non-Muslims" as mentioned on this thread, but I will give some of those consideration. Some already have crossover to existing misconceptions.

                            I like misconception 4. Many non-muslims assume that muslims have to follow fatwas and it is important to educate them on this.

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                              noshield30
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                              Hi i have a suggsestion, what about the misconception that the women is to be blamed and punished for being raped?

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                                Jack
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                                Salaam,

                                Misconception Men are domineering over women ? Or...?
                                Putting aside the 'DRB' portion of 434 for a moment..

                                Not sure If this is the right place for this but I'd like a convincing argument against this. Something no traditionalist/male chauvinist* would have an answer for.

                                *It seems such a view can be easily gathered by a certain way of reading AQ. It would be good to have a great counter argument against this.

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                                  unknownuser
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                                  Misconception Men are domineering over women ?

                                  in the real world? yes they are! sun

                                  ?those who are higher in physique and knowledge dominate"

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                                    Wakas
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                                    peace Jack, all,

                                    The way in which you phrased the misconception is not quite right, but I get the gist of what you mean. I think that this type of general subject needs to be specifically addressed point by point, and this is done in the site under various misconceptions.

                                    Re fatwa + others

                                    If a contributor wishes to write something specific to address a misconception, they are welcome. It is unlikely I will be writing new content for the site. As it stands, it is perhaps the most comprehensive site on the internet dealing with this subject.

                                    As a side note, I came across the following book recently, which is reasonable.

                                    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                      Jack
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                                      peace Wakas,

                                      Ahhh, good point there. It is misleading and vague as written above.

                                      I'll start a new thread in hopes of compiling verses and go from there, GW. When dealing with non-Muslims , it is a subject that is often brought up.

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                                        Wakas
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                                        peace all,

                                        www.misconceptions-about-islam.com

                                        Now that the site has been up and running a while, I have been able to look at the web traffic to the site, e.g. which pages were viewed most etc. Some interesting information.

                                        You may wish to have a look at the site and guess which 5 out of the 42 misconceptions are regularly viewed most. You may be surprised.

                                        I will post the answers here shortly.

                                        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                          Nafi
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                                          peace all,

                                          www.misconceptions-about-islam.com

                                          Now that the site has been up and running a while, I have been able to look at the web traffic to the site, e.g. which pages were viewed most etc. Some interesting information.

                                          You may wish to have a look at the site and guess which 5 out of the 42 misconceptions are regularly viewed most. You may be surprised.

                                          Wakas, I was planning to ask you this question.

                                          I bet you the five most popular sections are among these six (had to put six down hmm)

                                          Music and singing forbidden
                                          A man and woman cannot be alone together
                                          Must be "Muslim" or you will go to Hell
                                          Death for apostasy
                                          Stoning to death allowed
                                          Alcohol is forbidden in all forms

                                          Also can you reveal the total cumulative hits you have recieved, and how many hits a month/week you recieve.

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