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Common misconceptions about Islam - help needed

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    unknownuser
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    Salam

    Here are 7 more misconceptions about islam

    Misconception 1 Meat of different animals are forbidden to eat

    Only meat of Pig is illegal.

    Misconception 2 The Quranic verses can be abrogated

    This is not compatible with quran. It is not a fact.

    Misconception 3 Intercession is accepted in islam

    The belief in the Prophet's intercession comes from hadith http//www.sunnah.org/ibadaat/tawassul.htm
    But this belief is not compatible with Quran (See 651, 2254, 2122-123, 324 and other verses).

    Misconception 4 Fatwas are compatible with islam

    Misconception 5 That you have to say Shahada to become a muslim.

    This is not Quranic. The Quran tells us the following about those who say shahada

    Quran 631
    When the hypocrites come to you they say We bear witness that you are the messenger of God. And God knows that you are His messenger, and God bears witness that the hypocrites are liars.

    This is the greatest testimony

    Quran 619
    Say Which is the greatest testimony? Say God is witness between me and you, and He has inspired to me this Quran that I may warn you with it and whoever it reaches, that you are bearing witness that with God are other gods! Say I do not bear witness! Say He is only One god, and I am innocent of what you have set up!

    Misconception 6 Only the Imams and sheykhs can interpret the Quran

    This belief contradicts the following verses in the Quran ( See 5417, 5422).

    Misconception 7 Sects are islamic

    Sects are not compatible with islam. Prophet Muhammed was not a Sunni or Shia. These are later innovations.
    The Quran tells people to not split their systems and become sects (See 3032).

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      Wakas
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      peace David,

      The site is primarily for "non-Muslims" as mentioned on this thread, but I will give some of those consideration. Some already have crossover to existing misconceptions.

      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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        unknownuser
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        Peace Wakas

        Okey, i see )

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          nsws1988
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          peace David,

          The site is primarily for "non-Muslims" as mentioned on this thread, but I will give some of those consideration. Some already have crossover to existing misconceptions.

          I like misconception 4. Many non-muslims assume that muslims have to follow fatwas and it is important to educate them on this.

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            noshield30
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            Hi i have a suggsestion, what about the misconception that the women is to be blamed and punished for being raped?

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              Jack
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              Salaam,

              Misconception Men are domineering over women ? Or...?
              Putting aside the 'DRB' portion of 434 for a moment..

              Not sure If this is the right place for this but I'd like a convincing argument against this. Something no traditionalist/male chauvinist* would have an answer for.

              *It seems such a view can be easily gathered by a certain way of reading AQ. It would be good to have a great counter argument against this.

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                unknownuser
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                Misconception Men are domineering over women ?

                in the real world? yes they are! sun

                ?those who are higher in physique and knowledge dominate"

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                  Wakas
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                  peace Jack, all,

                  The way in which you phrased the misconception is not quite right, but I get the gist of what you mean. I think that this type of general subject needs to be specifically addressed point by point, and this is done in the site under various misconceptions.

                  Re fatwa + others

                  If a contributor wishes to write something specific to address a misconception, they are welcome. It is unlikely I will be writing new content for the site. As it stands, it is perhaps the most comprehensive site on the internet dealing with this subject.

                  As a side note, I came across the following book recently, which is reasonable.

                  All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                    Jack
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                    peace Wakas,

                    Ahhh, good point there. It is misleading and vague as written above.

                    I'll start a new thread in hopes of compiling verses and go from there, GW. When dealing with non-Muslims , it is a subject that is often brought up.

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                      Wakas
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                      peace all,

                      www.misconceptions-about-islam.com

                      Now that the site has been up and running a while, I have been able to look at the web traffic to the site, e.g. which pages were viewed most etc. Some interesting information.

                      You may wish to have a look at the site and guess which 5 out of the 42 misconceptions are regularly viewed most. You may be surprised.

                      I will post the answers here shortly.

                      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                        Nafi
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                        peace all,

                        www.misconceptions-about-islam.com

                        Now that the site has been up and running a while, I have been able to look at the web traffic to the site, e.g. which pages were viewed most etc. Some interesting information.

                        You may wish to have a look at the site and guess which 5 out of the 42 misconceptions are regularly viewed most. You may be surprised.

                        Wakas, I was planning to ask you this question.

                        I bet you the five most popular sections are among these six (had to put six down hmm)

                        Music and singing forbidden
                        A man and woman cannot be alone together
                        Must be "Muslim" or you will go to Hell
                        Death for apostasy
                        Stoning to death allowed
                        Alcohol is forbidden in all forms

                        Also can you reveal the total cumulative hits you have recieved, and how many hits a month/week you recieve.

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                          savage_carrot
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                          Also can you reveal the total cumulative hits you have recieved, and how many hits a month/week you recieve.

                          Seconded, I'd think one of the popular ones would be wife beating.

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                            Raaajah
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                            Wakas I would like to discuss about Music and singing, according to you they are not clearly forbidden in Islam

                            The Quran does not clearly forbid music or singing....

                            This word casts some doubts. I my self love Music and singing (listening) but there are some verses that need clarification, and I hope you can clarify those for me and many others. I know most of the singing without poetry is impossible but we have following Ayats

                            Shall I inform you upon whom the devils descend?They descend upon every lying, sinful one,They incline their ears, and most of them are liars.
                            http//www.everyayah.com/data/images_png/26_224.png
                            And the Poets,- It is those straying in Evil, who follow them

                            Thanks!

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                              Ayisha
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                              Wakas I would like to discuss about Music and singing, according to you they are not clearly forbidden in Islam

                              This word casts some doubts. I my self love Music and singing (listening) but there are some verses that need clarification, and I hope you can clarify those for me and many others. I know most of the singing without poetry is impossible but we have following Ayats

                              Shall I inform you upon whom the devils descend?They descend upon every lying, sinful one,They incline their ears, and most of them are liars.
                              http//www.everyayah.com/data/images_png/26_224.png
                              And the Poets,- It is those straying in Evil, who follow them

                              Thanks!

                              verse before that one

                              26.223 They pass on what is heard and most of them are liars.

                              bit like passing on hadith wouldnt you say?

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                                Raaajah
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                                Ayisha

                                verse before that one
                                26.223 They pass on what is heard and most of them are liars.
                                bit like passing on hadith wouldnt you say?

                                Ayisha
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                                Raj, when did you answer for mazhar, there are plenty of unanswered questions of your own.
                                I think Mazhar is more knowledgeable than me and does not need me to answer for him.
                                Since, you kept on answering for many do whom i had conversation with.

                                Ayisha

                                I have not answered 'for' anyone else and I have managed to answer questions put to me.

                                Ayisha

                                ....and most of them are liars.

                                The question was directed to WAKAS.

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                                  Ayisha
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                                  Ayisha

                                  AyishaAyisha

                                  The question was directed to WAKAS.

                                  I wasn't answering the question, I was contributing to the thread.

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                                    Wakas
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                                    Raaajah,
                                    Firstly it refers to those who follow them. Secondly, a "poet" in Classical Arabic and especially in The Quran's terminology/portrayal is not just a reference to a person who rhymes words or perhaps even sings. The Quran regards "poetry" of a different genre to itself, as The Quran is based on reality/truth/righteousness etc. Study all other occurrences of this term in The Quran, you will soon see The Quran differentiating itself. Or alternatively read the works of Toshihiko Izutsu or Neal Robinson in which these terms are reviewed and contrasted.

                                    If it was simply about rhyming words, or recitation of melodic sounds, then The Quran has this itself. Please re-read the misconception and reflect.

                                    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                      Raaajah
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                                      Wakas

                                      Firstly it refers to those who follow them. Secondly, a "poet" in Classical Arabic and especially in The Quran's terminology/portrayal is not just a reference to a person who rhymes words or perhaps even sings.

                                      You are correct, Quran cannot ban something creative, but actually who are those Shura and Ishra that Quran distant itself from.

                                      Wakas

                                      The Quran regards "poetry" of a different genre to itself, as The Quran is based on reality/truth/righteousness etc. Study all other occurrences of this term in The Quran, you will soon see The Quran differentiating itself.

                                      http//www.everyayah.com/data/images_png/36_69.png

                                      here the word poetry,
                                      l-shi'ra is used here it says "And We did not give Prophet Muhammad, knowledge of poetry, nor is it befitting for him. It is not but a message and a clear Qur'an,"

                                      So I am actually looking for that Ishi ra that Quran says is not befitting for Muhammad Peace is upon him.

                                      Wakas

                                      If it was simply about rhyming words, or recitation of melodic sounds, then The Quran has this itself. Please re-read the misconception and reflect.

                                      Yes very right, Quran does have lots of these rhyming words, but Allah calls Quran different from poetry, this causes bit of confusion.

                                      There is Rawaaya quoted
                                      Aishah narrated that during the days of Mina, on the day of 'Eid al-Adha, two girls were with her, singing and playing on a hand drum. The Prophet peace is upon him was present, listening to them with his head under a shawl. Abu Bakr then entered and scolded the girls. The Prophet peace is upon him, uncovering his face, told him, "Let them be, Abu Bakr. These are the days of 'Eid." (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim.)

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                                        Wakas
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                                        Yes very right, Quran does have lots of these rhyming words, but Allah calls Quran different from poetry, this causes bit of confusion.

                                        There should be less "confusion" once all occurrences are compared.

                                        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                          Nafi
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                                          Wakas tell us the most visted sections then?

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