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Common misconceptions about Islam - help needed

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    Wakas
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    peace Jack, all,

    The way in which you phrased the misconception is not quite right, but I get the gist of what you mean. I think that this type of general subject needs to be specifically addressed point by point, and this is done in the site under various misconceptions.

    Re fatwa + others

    If a contributor wishes to write something specific to address a misconception, they are welcome. It is unlikely I will be writing new content for the site. As it stands, it is perhaps the most comprehensive site on the internet dealing with this subject.

    As a side note, I came across the following book recently, which is reasonable.

    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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      Jack
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      peace Wakas,

      Ahhh, good point there. It is misleading and vague as written above.

      I'll start a new thread in hopes of compiling verses and go from there, GW. When dealing with non-Muslims , it is a subject that is often brought up.

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        Wakas
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        peace all,

        www.misconceptions-about-islam.com

        Now that the site has been up and running a while, I have been able to look at the web traffic to the site, e.g. which pages were viewed most etc. Some interesting information.

        You may wish to have a look at the site and guess which 5 out of the 42 misconceptions are regularly viewed most. You may be surprised.

        I will post the answers here shortly.

        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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          Nafi
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          peace all,

          www.misconceptions-about-islam.com

          Now that the site has been up and running a while, I have been able to look at the web traffic to the site, e.g. which pages were viewed most etc. Some interesting information.

          You may wish to have a look at the site and guess which 5 out of the 42 misconceptions are regularly viewed most. You may be surprised.

          Wakas, I was planning to ask you this question.

          I bet you the five most popular sections are among these six (had to put six down hmm)

          Music and singing forbidden
          A man and woman cannot be alone together
          Must be "Muslim" or you will go to Hell
          Death for apostasy
          Stoning to death allowed
          Alcohol is forbidden in all forms

          Also can you reveal the total cumulative hits you have recieved, and how many hits a month/week you recieve.

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            savage_carrot
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            Also can you reveal the total cumulative hits you have recieved, and how many hits a month/week you recieve.

            Seconded, I'd think one of the popular ones would be wife beating.

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              Raaajah
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              Wakas I would like to discuss about Music and singing, according to you they are not clearly forbidden in Islam

              The Quran does not clearly forbid music or singing....

              This word casts some doubts. I my self love Music and singing (listening) but there are some verses that need clarification, and I hope you can clarify those for me and many others. I know most of the singing without poetry is impossible but we have following Ayats

              Shall I inform you upon whom the devils descend?They descend upon every lying, sinful one,They incline their ears, and most of them are liars.
              http//www.everyayah.com/data/images_png/26_224.png
              And the Poets,- It is those straying in Evil, who follow them

              Thanks!

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                Ayisha
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                Wakas I would like to discuss about Music and singing, according to you they are not clearly forbidden in Islam

                This word casts some doubts. I my self love Music and singing (listening) but there are some verses that need clarification, and I hope you can clarify those for me and many others. I know most of the singing without poetry is impossible but we have following Ayats

                Shall I inform you upon whom the devils descend?They descend upon every lying, sinful one,They incline their ears, and most of them are liars.
                http//www.everyayah.com/data/images_png/26_224.png
                And the Poets,- It is those straying in Evil, who follow them

                Thanks!

                verse before that one

                26.223 They pass on what is heard and most of them are liars.

                bit like passing on hadith wouldnt you say?

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                  Raaajah
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                  Ayisha

                  verse before that one
                  26.223 They pass on what is heard and most of them are liars.
                  bit like passing on hadith wouldnt you say?

                  Ayisha
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                  Raj, when did you answer for mazhar, there are plenty of unanswered questions of your own.
                  I think Mazhar is more knowledgeable than me and does not need me to answer for him.
                  Since, you kept on answering for many do whom i had conversation with.

                  Ayisha

                  I have not answered 'for' anyone else and I have managed to answer questions put to me.

                  Ayisha

                  ....and most of them are liars.

                  The question was directed to WAKAS.

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                    Ayisha
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                    Ayisha

                    AyishaAyisha

                    The question was directed to WAKAS.

                    I wasn't answering the question, I was contributing to the thread.

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                      Wakas
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                      Raaajah,
                      Firstly it refers to those who follow them. Secondly, a "poet" in Classical Arabic and especially in The Quran's terminology/portrayal is not just a reference to a person who rhymes words or perhaps even sings. The Quran regards "poetry" of a different genre to itself, as The Quran is based on reality/truth/righteousness etc. Study all other occurrences of this term in The Quran, you will soon see The Quran differentiating itself. Or alternatively read the works of Toshihiko Izutsu or Neal Robinson in which these terms are reviewed and contrasted.

                      If it was simply about rhyming words, or recitation of melodic sounds, then The Quran has this itself. Please re-read the misconception and reflect.

                      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                        Raaajah
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                        Wakas

                        Firstly it refers to those who follow them. Secondly, a "poet" in Classical Arabic and especially in The Quran's terminology/portrayal is not just a reference to a person who rhymes words or perhaps even sings.

                        You are correct, Quran cannot ban something creative, but actually who are those Shura and Ishra that Quran distant itself from.

                        Wakas

                        The Quran regards "poetry" of a different genre to itself, as The Quran is based on reality/truth/righteousness etc. Study all other occurrences of this term in The Quran, you will soon see The Quran differentiating itself.

                        http//www.everyayah.com/data/images_png/36_69.png

                        here the word poetry,
                        l-shi'ra is used here it says "And We did not give Prophet Muhammad, knowledge of poetry, nor is it befitting for him. It is not but a message and a clear Qur'an,"

                        So I am actually looking for that Ishi ra that Quran says is not befitting for Muhammad Peace is upon him.

                        Wakas

                        If it was simply about rhyming words, or recitation of melodic sounds, then The Quran has this itself. Please re-read the misconception and reflect.

                        Yes very right, Quran does have lots of these rhyming words, but Allah calls Quran different from poetry, this causes bit of confusion.

                        There is Rawaaya quoted
                        Aishah narrated that during the days of Mina, on the day of 'Eid al-Adha, two girls were with her, singing and playing on a hand drum. The Prophet peace is upon him was present, listening to them with his head under a shawl. Abu Bakr then entered and scolded the girls. The Prophet peace is upon him, uncovering his face, told him, "Let them be, Abu Bakr. These are the days of 'Eid." (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim.)

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                          Wakas
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                          Yes very right, Quran does have lots of these rhyming words, but Allah calls Quran different from poetry, this causes bit of confusion.

                          There should be less "confusion" once all occurrences are compared.

                          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                            Nafi
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                            Wakas tell us the most visted sections then?

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                              Raaajah
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                              Dear Wakas, I will be grateful if you provide some other links of your articles/study for a comprehensive study of the above in addition to the link you provided. The link you provided was useful but still one feels thirst.

                              like the ones for Toshihiko Izutsu or Neal Robinson .

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                                Wakas
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                                Any work would simply be a study of the Quran occurrences, thus one can simply study the occurrences themselves.
                                I dont know if he discusses the word here, or in his other book "God and man in the koran", but you can find it here
                                http//www.archive.org/details/Toshihiko.Izutsu_Ethico-Religious.Concepts.in.the.Quran

                                All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                  Wakas
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                                  peace all,

                                  The top 5 misconceptions are usually

                                  /muhammad-married-young-girl.htm
                                  /cut-off-hands-theft.htm
                                  /death-for-apostasy.htm
                                  /stoning-to-death-adultery.htm
                                  /alcohol-is-forbidden.htm

                                  The site gets about 9000 page views per month.

                                  It could be a lot more if promoted. Click here to find out how.

                                  All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                    Roshan
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                                    The site gets about 9000 page views per month.

                                    Click here to find out how.

                                    Peace

                                    Perhaps this has had a role to play in increasing forum members. I myself have recommended this site many times in web debates etc. It is excellent.

                                    Roshan

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                                      justamuslim
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                                      obama was asked about his religion and why he chose to be a christian.

                                      jesus is about love, forgiving, understanding, being your brothers keeper, charity, giving. although very much commercialized, still christmas is about family and charity.

                                      islam is about woman covering head to toe, praying 5 times a day, fasting,

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                                        Nafi
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                                        obama was asked about his religion and why he chose to be a christian.

                                        jesus is about love, forgiving, understanding, being your brothers keeper, charity, giving. although very much commercialized, still christmas is about family and charity.

                                        islam is about woman covering head to toe, praying 5 times a day, fasting,

                                        eh? are you joking around.

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                                          Wakas
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                                          Last month broke all records with over 11000 page views. The site is now ranked number 1 by google for 'misconceptions about islam'.

                                          But that's not enough!

                                          Keep spreading the link people! In forums, blogs, email your contacts, facebook etc
                                          http//misconceptions-about-islam.com

                                          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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