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How to read and study The Quran? - new article

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    peace all,

    As part of the site Quran434, I have written the following article to accompany it, discussing my methodology. Its aim was to provide a simple and practical approach, coupled with an extensive reference to The Quran's guidance on this issue.

    How to read and study The Quran?
    http//www.quran434.com/study-method.html

    Feedback/corrections welcome, especially any additional suggestions.

    I'd remove the following because the quran tells us how it should be read. Not closed minded opinions of men.

    Critical Thinking Lessons

    Is my understanding of the verse logical?
    If God is the author of The Quran, then it will contain the utmost precision and logic. A firm grasp of this aspect will significantly improve the chances of gaining an accurate understanding.

    Logic, Rhetoric, Legal Reasoning in the Quran God's arguments (book)
    Logical Fallacies information

    Does my understanding conflict with another part of its message?
    If so, it must be rejected. This includes specifics and its general principles and limits. Cross-reference becomes a must.

    Also the topic search is far too small. As compared to Islam City's Quran search.

    Did you add the concept of how "propounding the news of divorce" is almost like hitting. Anyone who's been divorced should know what I'm talking about.

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      Mazhar i think you have a problem of comprehension here

      Pl see reply 19 of yours where you quoted me. And also find time to read what abdalquran finally seems to have agreed. And respond to my quotes if you wish to.

      My stand on root system is very clear as i have said this

      But Mr. Wakas, what I mean to say is when you rely solely on root system to analyse and understand the Quran that surely does not help.

      now your stand on the subject is this

      Qur'aan is composed with Arabic words. And all Arabic Words are derived from a Root, and each Root has a specific perception infolded in it. Anything relied upon other than the Root is just gossip and conjecture

      Now the strongest advocate of root system on this forum, and who has surely done lot of research on the topic has to say this

      Perhaps that is why nowhere have I ever recommended or relied soley on root system. Anyone who bothered to read the link in this very thread would know that.

      Come on Mazhar be realistic, and then you asked about the root QRN to abdalquran and i mentioned a name Dr.Mingana, so now what?

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        Raajah dear, I recommend you to take some confusion clearing pill. You are mixing me up with Wakas. Read my posts on Root System and rebut them if you have a single plausible reason.

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          Mazhar

          Read my posts on Root System and rebut them if you have a single plausible reason
          .

          You mean to say rebut this one?

          Qur'aan is composed with Arabic words. And all Arabic Words are derived from a Root, and each Root has a specific perception infolded in it. Anything relied upon other than the Root is just gossip and conjecture

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            Dear would you please let me know that gentleman who thought or said Qur'aan is from Root

            Dr. Mingana to name one.

            Without quoting the name of the Book/Theses/Source/Link this is called just throwing a name in the air. I don't think he was/is also a out of mind gentleman to think Qur'aan is from . Please quote some sensible person/lexicon or just go through the Qur'aan and see that could it mean anywhere even near to Qur'aan.

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              One should not feel shy to admit if something went on air due to misunderstanding or confusion.

              What ever I stated it is on the thread.

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                Mazhar

                One should not feel shy to admit if something went on air due to misunderstanding or confusion.

                Thanks for admitting then

                What ever I stated it is on the thread.

                Well, Ithink you can't delete it now after considerable time has passed by.

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                  Mazhar

                  Without quoting the name of the Book/Theses/Source/Link this is called just throwing a name in the air. I don't think he was/is also a out of mind gentleman to think Qur'aan is from . Please quote some sensible person/lexicon or just go through the Qur'aan and see that could it mean anywhere even near to Qur'aan.

                  quranacademy.org

                  Quran reaches its real Syriac root of qeryn (quryan, QRYN) which refers to 'religious reading'.

                  I was talking of Dr. Alphonse Mingana

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                    Mazhar

                    I am sure we can help each other in learning to better understand and comprehend Qur'aan, if we move gradually in proper sequence of Qur'aan. Howere I have studied a little bit of this Root.

                    Root

                    if i can read it correctly i see a hamza over here

                    I think there was no hamza in the Classical Arabic of the Koran, correct me if i am wrong. It had to be added so to fit the -later

                    Hamza is not one of the 28 "full" letters, and owes its existence to historical orthographical inconsistencies in early Islamic times. In the Phoenician and Aramaic alphabets, from which the Arabic alphabet is descended, the glottal stop was expressed by leph, continued by Arabic alif.... To indicate that a glottal stop, and not a mere vowel, was intended, hamza was added diacritically to alif.

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                      He says this
                      "23 There is not much doubt in my mind that the word Kuran is imitated from the Syriac Kiryan. All the Biblical lessons to be read in the Churches are called by the Syrians Kiryans. The Prophet called simply his book by the word that was used to name the pericopes of the Revelation in the Christian Churches of his day. We should also remember that in the oldest MSS. of the Kur'an the word is simply written which may be, and has already been, read Kur'an or Kuran without hamzah. I suspect that this reading of the word without hamzah is reminiscent of an earlier pronunciation Kuryan or Kiryan (with a ya&#039 and that the hamzah pronunciation is a late reading adopted to make the word more Arabic and in harmony with the root of the verb kara'a. "

                      He seems to be merely a wanderer, and guessing things.

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                        Mazhar

                        He seems to be merely a wanderer, and guessing things.

                        What makes yo u say this, on what basis

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                          Mazhar
                          What makes yo u say this, on what basis

                          His just one quote, if you read with open eyes, suffices to conclude about it what I said.

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                            His just one quote, if you read with open eyes, suffices to conclude about it what I said

                            But I quoted about Hamza from wikepidia brickwall

                            even though i am a critic of Dr.Mingana but to call him a wandrer and his work a guess work is far cry. You also have passed almost same remarks about Imam Bukhari, we can disagree with his methodology(though it was the best available at his time) but say "Bukhari type of people" or undermine his reserach work is just too much and can only be done by an amateur mind.
                            My eyes are open what you need is to open your brain.

                            Alphonse Mingana (born as Hurmiz Mingana, 1878 Sharansh, village near Zakho, Ottoman Empire (present day Iraq) - died 5 December 1937 Birmingham, England) was an Assyrian theologian, historian,orientalist and a former priest who is best known for collecting and preserving the Mingana Collection of ancient Middle Eastern manuscripts at Birmingham

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                              But I quoted about Hamza from wikepidia brickwall

                              even though i am a critic of Dr.Mingana but to call him a wandrer and his work a guess work is far cry. You also have passed almost same remarks about Imam Bukhari, we can disagree with his methodology(though it was the best available at his time) but say "Bukhari type of people" or undermine his reserach work is just too much and can only be done by an amateur mind.
                              My eyes are open what you need is to open your brain.

                              Alphonse Mingana (born as Hurmiz Mingana, 1878 Sharansh, village near Zakho, Ottoman Empire (present day Iraq) - died 5 December 1937 Birmingham, England) was an Assyrian theologian, historian,orientalist and a former priest who is best known for collecting and preserving the Mingana Collection of ancient Middle Eastern manuscripts at Birmingham

                              Without reading you start striking against the wall. His quote, I am talking, not your quote of hamza. Read his quote and get your eyes opened.

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                                Mazhar

                                Without reading you start striking against the wall. His quote, I am talking, not your quote of hamza. Read his quote and get your eyes opened.

                                My eyes are opened brother, its time for you to open up yours, Don;t try to behave like "Aflatoon" and stop calling him, Imam Bukhari and others wandrers and their works, guess works that is beneath you.

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                                  Mazhar
                                  quranacademy.org

                                  Quran reaches its real Syriac root of qeryn (quryan, QRYN) which refers to 'religious reading'.

                                  I was talking of Dr. Alphonse Mingana

                                  Would you like to tell us where the Syriac language got it's roots from?

                                  Alphonse Mingana (born as Hurmiz Mingana, 1878 Sharansh, village near Zakho, Ottoman Empire (present day Iraq) - died 5 December 1937 Birmingham, England) was an Assyrian theologian, historian, orientalist and a former priest who is best known for collecting and preserving the Mingana Collection of ancient Middle Eastern manuscripts at Birmingham

                                  Do you ally yourself with such people? According to hadith science one wouldn't accept the words of such people so readily. Quran 496

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                                    Far

                                    Would you like to tell us where the Syriac language got it's roots from?

                                    offcourse you know the answer and furthermore this has nothing to do with present post of mine, any how this is the laymans information

                                    Syriac began as an unwritten spoken dialect of Old Aramaic in northern Mesopotamia. The first evidence we have of such dialects is their influence on the written Imperial Aramaic from the 5th century BC.
                                    All the Semitic languages' are built up from triliteral roots that is, the great majority of the words are derived from a simple verbal form, of which the essential elements are three consonants.
                                    The Syriac alphabet, which derived its letters from forms ultimately akin to those of the Old Hebrew and Phoenician alphabets, has the same twenty-two letters as the Hebrew.

                                    Far

                                    Do you ally yourself with such people? According to hadith science one wouldn't accept the words of such people so readily. Quran 496

                                    again this is not what is being discussed. Did I said I ally with him? this only tells you jumped in without reading the posts
                                    quote by Raaajah

                                    even though i am a critic of Dr.Mingana but to call him a wandrer and his work a guess work is far cry

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                                      Don;t try to behave like "Aflatoon" and stop calling him, Imam Bukhari and others wandrers and their works, guess works that is beneath you.

                                      For every moment in time there is/was a book. Aflatoon did not benefit from the Book of his time, instead decided to roam about at his own in all fields circularly, in the hope to find some truth, with the result that one never gets the Straight Path given in simple words by the Book. The Book is sublime and is The Guide, rest is unending "Gup Shup".

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                                        Mazhar

                                        The Book is sublime and is The Guide, rest is unending "Gup Shup".

                                        And how did you know that the book is sublime? now please don't start quoting from the book it self!

                                        Just give me a prove that the book is Sublime?

                                        waiting for your reply

                                        Raj-ah

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                                          Mazhar
                                          And how did you know that the book is sublime? now please don't start quoting from the book it self!

                                          Just give me a prove that the book is Sublime?

                                          waiting for your reply

                                          Raj-ah

                                          Experience and by applying inteelect bestowed by Allah to human beings for differentiating between scum and fact.
                                          The prove that the Book is sublime is like the Sun which for us is the most bright star. It needs no proof to establish an already admitted fact. The quote from the Book would have been more powereful and convicing, but you have stopped quoting it.

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