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How to read and study The Quran? - new article

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    Mazhar
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    Mazhar

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    MAy Allah bring you out of confusion, ameen.

    Pl try to see with little open eyes why a question mark was placed? See your quote above it, may be it lessens your irritation.

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      Raaajah
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      Mazhar

      Pl try to see with little open eyes why a question mark was placed? See your quote above it, may be it lessens your irritation.

      ??? ???

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        Mazhar
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        Mazhar

        ??? ???

        Pl see reply 19 of yours where you quoted me. And also find time to read what abdalquran finally seems to have agreed. And respond to my quotes if you wish to.

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          Ok Raaajah, I will make it easy for you, see http//www.quran434.com/wife-beating-islam.html scroll down or click on part 1, then carefully read number 13. If you fail to understand it, read it multiple times. It is an excellent example of what I'm talking about.

          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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            peace all,

            As part of the site Quran434, I have written the following article to accompany it, discussing my methodology. Its aim was to provide a simple and practical approach, coupled with an extensive reference to The Quran's guidance on this issue.

            How to read and study The Quran?
            http//www.quran434.com/study-method.html

            Feedback/corrections welcome, especially any additional suggestions.

            I'd remove the following because the quran tells us how it should be read. Not closed minded opinions of men.

            Critical Thinking Lessons

            Is my understanding of the verse logical?
            If God is the author of The Quran, then it will contain the utmost precision and logic. A firm grasp of this aspect will significantly improve the chances of gaining an accurate understanding.

            Logic, Rhetoric, Legal Reasoning in the Quran God's arguments (book)
            Logical Fallacies information

            Does my understanding conflict with another part of its message?
            If so, it must be rejected. This includes specifics and its general principles and limits. Cross-reference becomes a must.

            Also the topic search is far too small. As compared to Islam City's Quran search.

            Did you add the concept of how "propounding the news of divorce" is almost like hitting. Anyone who's been divorced should know what I'm talking about.

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              Raaajah
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              Mazhar i think you have a problem of comprehension here

              Pl see reply 19 of yours where you quoted me. And also find time to read what abdalquran finally seems to have agreed. And respond to my quotes if you wish to.

              My stand on root system is very clear as i have said this

              But Mr. Wakas, what I mean to say is when you rely solely on root system to analyse and understand the Quran that surely does not help.

              now your stand on the subject is this

              Qur'aan is composed with Arabic words. And all Arabic Words are derived from a Root, and each Root has a specific perception infolded in it. Anything relied upon other than the Root is just gossip and conjecture

              Now the strongest advocate of root system on this forum, and who has surely done lot of research on the topic has to say this

              Perhaps that is why nowhere have I ever recommended or relied soley on root system. Anyone who bothered to read the link in this very thread would know that.

              Come on Mazhar be realistic, and then you asked about the root QRN to abdalquran and i mentioned a name Dr.Mingana, so now what?

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                Mazhar
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                Raajah dear, I recommend you to take some confusion clearing pill. You are mixing me up with Wakas. Read my posts on Root System and rebut them if you have a single plausible reason.

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                  Raaajah
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                  Mazhar

                  Read my posts on Root System and rebut them if you have a single plausible reason
                  .

                  You mean to say rebut this one?

                  Qur'aan is composed with Arabic words. And all Arabic Words are derived from a Root, and each Root has a specific perception infolded in it. Anything relied upon other than the Root is just gossip and conjecture

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                    Mazhar
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                    Dear would you please let me know that gentleman who thought or said Qur'aan is from Root

                    Dr. Mingana to name one.

                    Without quoting the name of the Book/Theses/Source/Link this is called just throwing a name in the air. I don't think he was/is also a out of mind gentleman to think Qur'aan is from . Please quote some sensible person/lexicon or just go through the Qur'aan and see that could it mean anywhere even near to Qur'aan.

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                      Mazhar
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                      One should not feel shy to admit if something went on air due to misunderstanding or confusion.

                      What ever I stated it is on the thread.

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                        Mazhar

                        One should not feel shy to admit if something went on air due to misunderstanding or confusion.

                        Thanks for admitting then

                        What ever I stated it is on the thread.

                        Well, Ithink you can't delete it now after considerable time has passed by.

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                          Raaajah
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                          Mazhar

                          Without quoting the name of the Book/Theses/Source/Link this is called just throwing a name in the air. I don't think he was/is also a out of mind gentleman to think Qur'aan is from . Please quote some sensible person/lexicon or just go through the Qur'aan and see that could it mean anywhere even near to Qur'aan.

                          quranacademy.org

                          Quran reaches its real Syriac root of qeryn (quryan, QRYN) which refers to 'religious reading'.

                          I was talking of Dr. Alphonse Mingana

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                            Raaajah
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                            Mazhar

                            I am sure we can help each other in learning to better understand and comprehend Qur'aan, if we move gradually in proper sequence of Qur'aan. Howere I have studied a little bit of this Root.

                            Root

                            if i can read it correctly i see a hamza over here

                            I think there was no hamza in the Classical Arabic of the Koran, correct me if i am wrong. It had to be added so to fit the -later

                            Hamza is not one of the 28 "full" letters, and owes its existence to historical orthographical inconsistencies in early Islamic times. In the Phoenician and Aramaic alphabets, from which the Arabic alphabet is descended, the glottal stop was expressed by leph, continued by Arabic alif.... To indicate that a glottal stop, and not a mere vowel, was intended, hamza was added diacritically to alif.

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                              Mazhar
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                              He says this
                              "23 There is not much doubt in my mind that the word Kuran is imitated from the Syriac Kiryan. All the Biblical lessons to be read in the Churches are called by the Syrians Kiryans. The Prophet called simply his book by the word that was used to name the pericopes of the Revelation in the Christian Churches of his day. We should also remember that in the oldest MSS. of the Kur'an the word is simply written which may be, and has already been, read Kur'an or Kuran without hamzah. I suspect that this reading of the word without hamzah is reminiscent of an earlier pronunciation Kuryan or Kiryan (with a ya&#039 and that the hamzah pronunciation is a late reading adopted to make the word more Arabic and in harmony with the root of the verb kara'a. "

                              He seems to be merely a wanderer, and guessing things.

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                                Raaajah
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                                Mazhar

                                He seems to be merely a wanderer, and guessing things.

                                What makes yo u say this, on what basis

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                                  Mazhar
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                                  Mazhar
                                  What makes yo u say this, on what basis

                                  His just one quote, if you read with open eyes, suffices to conclude about it what I said.

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                                    Raaajah
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                                    His just one quote, if you read with open eyes, suffices to conclude about it what I said

                                    But I quoted about Hamza from wikepidia brickwall

                                    even though i am a critic of Dr.Mingana but to call him a wandrer and his work a guess work is far cry. You also have passed almost same remarks about Imam Bukhari, we can disagree with his methodology(though it was the best available at his time) but say "Bukhari type of people" or undermine his reserach work is just too much and can only be done by an amateur mind.
                                    My eyes are open what you need is to open your brain.

                                    Alphonse Mingana (born as Hurmiz Mingana, 1878 Sharansh, village near Zakho, Ottoman Empire (present day Iraq) - died 5 December 1937 Birmingham, England) was an Assyrian theologian, historian,orientalist and a former priest who is best known for collecting and preserving the Mingana Collection of ancient Middle Eastern manuscripts at Birmingham

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                                      Mazhar
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                                      But I quoted about Hamza from wikepidia brickwall

                                      even though i am a critic of Dr.Mingana but to call him a wandrer and his work a guess work is far cry. You also have passed almost same remarks about Imam Bukhari, we can disagree with his methodology(though it was the best available at his time) but say "Bukhari type of people" or undermine his reserach work is just too much and can only be done by an amateur mind.
                                      My eyes are open what you need is to open your brain.

                                      Alphonse Mingana (born as Hurmiz Mingana, 1878 Sharansh, village near Zakho, Ottoman Empire (present day Iraq) - died 5 December 1937 Birmingham, England) was an Assyrian theologian, historian,orientalist and a former priest who is best known for collecting and preserving the Mingana Collection of ancient Middle Eastern manuscripts at Birmingham

                                      Without reading you start striking against the wall. His quote, I am talking, not your quote of hamza. Read his quote and get your eyes opened.

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                                        Raaajah
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                                        Mazhar

                                        Without reading you start striking against the wall. His quote, I am talking, not your quote of hamza. Read his quote and get your eyes opened.

                                        My eyes are opened brother, its time for you to open up yours, Don;t try to behave like "Aflatoon" and stop calling him, Imam Bukhari and others wandrers and their works, guess works that is beneath you.

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                                          FAR
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                                          Mazhar
                                          quranacademy.org

                                          Quran reaches its real Syriac root of qeryn (quryan, QRYN) which refers to 'religious reading'.

                                          I was talking of Dr. Alphonse Mingana

                                          Would you like to tell us where the Syriac language got it's roots from?

                                          Alphonse Mingana (born as Hurmiz Mingana, 1878 Sharansh, village near Zakho, Ottoman Empire (present day Iraq) - died 5 December 1937 Birmingham, England) was an Assyrian theologian, historian, orientalist and a former priest who is best known for collecting and preserving the Mingana Collection of ancient Middle Eastern manuscripts at Birmingham

                                          Do you ally yourself with such people? According to hadith science one wouldn't accept the words of such people so readily. Quran 496

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