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    unknownuser
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    Mind you these days, one probably can.

    ???

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      youssef4342
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      To Huruf, my view is that Sexual relations of any kind should be reserved with teh spouse.

      what's the point of getting a spouse, if you can do it by yourself?
      Youssef, you can't have babies by yourself though, can you? Or can you? Mind you these days, one probably can.

      I was supporting the point of having a spouse.
      and to think of it, yes, asexual reproductions happen all the time in the Animal kingdom...
      Example if you're a female komodo Dragon, you need no spouse...
      Virgin Birth...

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        huruf
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        To Huruf, my view is that Sexual relations of any kind should be reserved with teh spouse.

        How can you call masturbation a sexual relation?

        If I talk to myself should I call it a conversation?

        Salaam

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          Youssef, I know it is an ability conferred upon certain species in the animal kingdom, but I refer to homo sapiens.

          "Fallen Angel", what are you confused about/ questioning/ querying?

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            "Fallen Angel", what are you confused about/ questioning/ querying?

            I am confused regarding your saying that one can have babies by himself/herself, never heard of it before

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              Please refer back to the original. It closely resembles

              Youssef, you can't have babies by yourself though.......

              Salaam.

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                Pakistani_Assassin
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                watching Pornography isn't bringing another person in, however, it is still a sin.
                My view and from personal experience, Masturbation is a sin. tempt

                what's the point of getting a spouse, if you can do it by yourself?

                Salam bro.

                Your statement is similar to Sunni muslims who insist muslims should marry early on in order to avoid mingling with the opposite sex. Its quite absurd.

                You do realise that some people have no desire to marry or don't want the burden of a family, should these people avoid masturbation for life? Or what about a woman who is pregnant or on her period where she might feel uncomfortable having intercourse. Whats your solution, force ourselves to wait a few weeks, for some action? ) Or even worse, when a couple have arguments, perhaps break up and live separately. You might be out of action for a year or two, maybe more if you're unlucky. )

                Rigid thinking such as this is rife in Sectarian Islam, Catholicism, Orthodox Judaism etc. You would expect a Sunni scholar to advise you to get married in order to avoid masturbation - as if thats a logical thing do do.

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                  youssef4342
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                  Please refer back to the original. It closely resembles

                  Youssef, you can't have babies by yourself though.......

                  Salaam.

                  It does not matter about having babies. Homosexual acts will not produce babies, however they are not ok.

                  My Understanding is that ANY sexual acts should be reserved with the spouse period

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                    hawk99
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                    Peace All,

                    Never read an ayat prohibiting masturbation. Whatever God gives you take,

                    and whatever God leavesout, leave.

                    O0

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                      It does not matter about having babies. Homosexual acts will not produce babies, however they are not ok.

                      My Understanding is that ANY sexual acts should be reserved with the spouse period

                      Well, I want to have bambinos, Youssef.

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                        PixelAngelBaby
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                        Salam sister

                        If you could be so kind to explain?

                        I was laughing at your metaphors of masturbation. Sorry about that p. I thought that would be obvious. Anyways thanks for the laugh p.

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                          Farabi
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                          Salam bro.

                          Your statement is similar to Sunni muslims who insist muslims should marry early on in order to avoid mingling with the opposite sex. Its quite absurd.

                          You do realise that some people have no desire to marry or don't want the burden of a family, should these people avoid masturbation for life? Or what about a woman who is pregnant or on her period where she might feel uncomfortable having intercourse. Whats your solution, force ourselves to wait a few weeks, for some action? ) Or even worse, when a couple have arguments, perhaps break up and live separately. You might be out of action for a year or two, maybe more if you're unlucky. )

                          Rigid thinking such as this is rife in Sectarian Islam, Catholicism, Orthodox Judaism etc. You would expect a Sunni scholar to advise you to get married in order to avoid masturbation - as if thats a logical thing do do.

                          I dont think sunni is wrong on this idea. Beeing alone is make us closer to adultery. I think by marry early adultery can be avoided.

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                            inquisitivetrini
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                            Peace All,

                            Never read an ayat prohibiting masturbation. Whatever God gives you take,

                            and whatever God leavesout, leave.

                            O0

                            I lol'ed. rotfl

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                              Emil
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                              I was laughing at your metaphors of masturbation. Sorry about that p. I thought that would be obvious. Anyways thanks for the laugh p.

                              Ok sis, sorry for not understanding.

                              We can have two-somes and hand-somes but not three-somes.

                              All this nonsense about masturbating being a sin and all is not islam but influences from christianity and judaism. The initial question was if the term fasting also includes masturbation. To me this is an entirely individual question with an individual answer. Whatever makes you feel like you have broken your fast, then so it is.

                              I dont know but I never felt sexual pleasure is something Allah will ever judge us by. His only concern seems that we do not break oaths or promises we make to someone we have decided to make family with or that we hurt someone while seeking for our pleasures.
                              I am sorry to say but I have not found one quranic verse where it says "You are not allowed to enjoy the pleasures we have given to you"..........Instead He gives us fair warning that if we let these pleasures given by Him to take over our lives (alcoholism, gambling, lewdness) we are going astray from the islamic path.

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                                PixelAngelBaby
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                                Ok sis, sorry for not understanding.

                                We can have two-somes and hand-somes but not three-somes.

                                All this nonsense about masturbating being a sin and all is not islam but influences from christianity and judaism. The initial question was if the term fasting also includes masturbation. To me this is an entirely individual question with an individual answer. Whatever makes you feel like you have broken your fast, then so it is.

                                I dont know but I never felt sexual pleasure is something Allah will ever judge us by. His only concern seems that we do not break oaths or promises we make to someone we have decided to make family with or that we hurt someone while seeking for our pleasures.
                                I am sorry to say but I have not found one quranic verse where it says "You are not allowed to enjoy the pleasures we have given to you"..........Instead He gives us fair warning that if we let these pleasures given by Him to take over our lives (alcoholism, gambling, lewdness) we are going astray from the islamic path.

                                Again, sorry about laughing. Was being immature -) . And yeah I think one always must refer back to the Quran for these kinds of matters. Surely Allah would have mentioned masturbation I he wanted. He does not shy away from giving examples as small as a mosquito or larger. (I hope I paraphrased that right).

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                                  Emil
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                                  Again, sorry about laughing. Was being immature -) . And yeah I think one always must refer back to the Quran for these kinds of matters. Surely Allah would have mentioned masturbation I he wanted. He does not shy away from giving examples as small as a mosquito or larger. (I hope I paraphrased that right).

                                  No worries sis, I write like I talk and I talk like a sailor................wait, I am a sailor.................spanking the monkey, choking the chicken, taming the snake.......I am the immature one, not you

                                  A serious question though........wait, going to start another thread. I just thought of something that I never have before.

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                                    PixelAngelBaby
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                                    No worries sis, I write like I talk and I talk like a sailor................wait, I am a sailor.................spanking the monkey, choking the chicken, taming the snake.......I am the immature one, not you )

                                    A serious question though........wait, going to start another thread. I just thought of something that I never have before.

                                    Hehe let me know when you make another thread, im curious what the question is

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                                      Emil
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                                      Hehe let me know when you make another thread, im curious what the question is

                                      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605039.msg321141#new

                                      Just so you know sis, you were not the one that made me ask the question, it was the dude who asked if masturbation is ok during fasting. I dont want you think that I am including you in that group, ok? You seem very independent and free thinking.

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