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    Sunnah-hero
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    Thank you and that is why it's sensible of student of Allah not to reveal his/her sexual identity.
    Salaam

    because she is afraid of people not taking her seriously if she is a woman? So she is embarrased of her gender ?

    I am a man and I am proud of my gender I wont hide it just because someone is a male hater.

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      mmkhan
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      But hey dude .. why would anyone try to hide his/her identity confused Wallah ana mostaghreb confused

      I don't know bro, you can ask the one who is hiding...

      Red BTW, what is so wonder in it? And it is not good to swear about Allah, I know saying "Wallah" is not meant in that ways but still... D

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        I don't know bro, you can ask the one who is hiding...

        Red BTW, what is so wonder in it? And it is not good to swear about Allah, I know saying "Wallah" is not meant in that ways but still... D

        yes I swear thats a bad habit we arabs have.. we say wallah in every second sentence.. ya3ni it just comes out without thinking..

        we arabs use 2 words excessively

        1. Wallah
        2. Habibi O0

        In Spain you dont call your friends, colleagues, the watchman or the taxi driver for Habibi .. but somehow we arabs do confused

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          youssef4342
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          Hehehehehehehehe relax dudes group

          But let me admit, if I knew that student of Allah was a woman to begin with, I would never had listened to her . ignore

          I Hope God has proved you otherwise. Women in my life have impacted me more-so than Men. From Mother to aunts to The many Female Teachers that i Admire. (Most of my teachers were Women...such caring creatures )

          and yeah in the arabic circle, they do swear a lot by God "walahi" "walahi el3azeem" "wrbk"
          we aren't supposed to swear by God in our every day speech.

          Do Not Take God's Name in Vain
          Do not subject GOD's name to your casual swearing, that you may appear righteous, pious, or to attain credibility among the people. GOD is Hearer, Knower.

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            hawk99
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            Peace,

            I've only been here a short while, but student of Allah has always been a women
            based on her picture.

            O0

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              mmkhan
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              I Hope God has proved you otherwise. Women in my life have impacted me more-so than Men. From Mother to aunts to The many Female Teachers that i Admire. (Most of my teachers were Women...such caring creatures

              and yeah in the arabic circle, they do swear a lot by God "walahi" "walahi el3azeem" "wrbk"
              we aren't supposed to swear by God in our every day speech.

              Do Not Take God's Name in Vain
              Do not subject GOD's name to your casual swearing, that you may appear righteous, pious, or to attain credibility among the people. GOD is Hearer, Knower.

              Peace,

              Thanks youssef from the aayat.

              May Allah rewards you with the best and guide us to His only path pr
              mmKhan

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                mmkhan
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                Peace,

                I've only been here a short while, but student of Allah has always been a women
                based on her picture.

                O0

                Peace Hawk99,

                Who are you to say "student of Allah has always been a women"?

                Recalled old game ;D

                May Allah bless you,
                mmKhan

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                  Peace Hawk99,

                  Who are you to say "student of Allah has always been a women"?

                  Recalled old game ;D

                  May Allah bless you,
                  mmKhan

                  ) by the way, I am not finished with that game.

                  May God grant us peace and happiness

                  O0

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                    mmkhan
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                    ) by the way, I am not finished with that game.

                    May God grant us peace and happiness

                    O0

                    Peace,

                    That is a never ending game.

                    May God grant us peace and happiness,
                    mmKhan

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                      mmkhan
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                      Salaam,

                      I read somewhere.... "O People! Indeed, I have left among you, that which if you hold fast to it, you shall not go astray The Book of Allah (Quran) and my Sunnah. (Sahih Al-Bukhari)" but where I read that hmm

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                        youssef4342
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                        there are actually three versions of this sermon cited in the Hadith books

                        1. First version
                          "I left for you what if you hold up to, you will never be misguided The Book of God and my Family?.
                          (Al-Tirmidhi 6143; Muslim 44/4/2408; Ibn Hanbal 4/366; Darimi 23/1/3319)
                        2. Second version
                          "I left for you what if you hold up to, you will never be misguided The Book of God and my Sunnah".
                          (Muwatta Book 46.1.3
                        3. Third version
                          "I left for you what if you hold up to, you will never be misguided, The Book of God"
                          (Sahih Muslim Book 7, Number 2803; Muslim 15/19/1218; Ibn Majah 25/84/3074; Abu Dawud 11/56/1905).

                        The Shia Muslims would accept the First Version
                        The Sunni Muslims would accept the Second Version
                        We Muslims who want to follow the Quran Alone would accept the Third Version, because again, the Quran is Fully Detailed (6114) Not missing Anything (63 and it explains and clarifies Everything (12111,1689).

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                          God_alone 0
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                          Salaamun-Alaykum Sunnah-Hero

                          Thank you for sharing your story with us. May Allah help you with your research, InshaAllah.

                          peace

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                            Hey Wa2el since you've done dawah work, you can do Quran-alone dawah D
                            I do that. I pass out flyers to mostly non-muslims, and muslms, and stickers with websites etc.

                            here is a version of my flyer that i personally pass out (To non-muslims) (i try-fold it, fold bottom till first paragraph, and then fold the top part that's left down = looks like an invitation)
                            https//docs.google.com/document/d/1hBQdP0E8jxzKSZkZivFEv_2zo-NABl2DaYQoU7Qqijs/edit

                            Here is a Flyer for Traditional muslims,https//docs.google.com/open?id=0BwFbhXgE0EorLUhwU0N2N3k3bjg

                            You can Watch me in my messenger work in austin Texas

                            Submission Messenger- Austin TX Episode #1http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_q9LwowVYY

                            Submission Messenger- Austin TX Episode #4http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdZhLtc65OM

                            Spreading God's Message of the Quranhttp//www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBu21Ui5peM

                            Salaamun-Alaykum.

                            I watched your videos. I'm amazed with the work you're doing. It's great whenever you are preaching God's message, you do it with God's teachings and in nicely way. I wish I was a brave enough and make Youtube videos like that to preach God's message. May Allah reward you with the good work you're doing, brother. Keep up the good work. One day, lots of people will wake up after watching your vidoes, God willing. yay

                            Peace.

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                              Sunnah-hero
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                              Salaamun-Alaykum.

                              I watched your videos. I'm amazed with the work you're doing. It's great whenever you are preaching God's message, you do it with God's teachings and in nicely way. I wish I was a brave enough and make Youtube videos like that to preach God's message. May Allah reward you with the good work you're doing, brother. Keep up the good work. One day, lots of people will wake up after watching your vidoes, God willing. yay

                              Peace.

                              Yes I have also just finished checking his video. This guy is an awesome fresh and brave guy who makes great videos. I liked that he makes videos both for the English and Arabic audience.. I could hear from his accent that he is Egyptian (because I use to watch Egyptian TV and movies) and he is a great alternative to the traditional Egyptian extreme Sunni preachers.

                              Well yousef I am thinking about writing a we page about our message ... I have a very strong Spanish accent when I speak English so I don't think I am suitable to make videos.. People would eventually give more attention to my Spanish accent than to what I say

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                                mmkhan
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                                there are actually three versions of this sermon cited in the Hadith books

                                1. First version
                                  "I left for you what if you hold up to, you will never be misguided The Book of God and my Family?.
                                  (Al-Tirmidhi 6143; Muslim 44/4/2408; Ibn Hanbal 4/366; Darimi 23/1/3319)
                                2. Second version
                                  "I left for you what if you hold up to, you will never be misguided The Book of God and my Sunnah".
                                  (Muwatta Book 46.1.3
                                3. Third version
                                  "I left for you what if you hold up to, you will never be misguided, The Book of God"
                                  (Sahih Muslim Book 7, Number 2803; Muslim 15/19/1218; Ibn Majah 25/84/3074; Abu Dawud 11/56/1905).

                                The Shia Muslims would accept the First Version
                                The Sunni Muslims would accept the Second Version
                                We Muslims who want to follow the Quran Alone would accept the Third Version, because again, the Quran is Fully Detailed (6114) Not missing Anything (63 and it explains and clarifies Everything (12111,1689).

                                Salaam Youssef,

                                I am aware of that all bro. I was not talking about that but I saw the same line that I wrote some where on this forum or in signature of a member. It is like this... P

                                O People! Indeed, I have left among you, that which if you hold fast to it, you shall not go astray The Book of Allah (Quran) and my Sunnah. (Sahih Al-Bukhari)

                                May Allah bless you,
                                mmKhan

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                                  One thing I never understood is why is the Muslims in UK so extreme in their religion compared to Muslims in other countries ?

                                  Interesting question. I am doing my dissertation on this at the moment. I can send it to you when I finish, if you like.

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                                    wrkmmn
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                                    One thing I never understood is why is the Muslims in UK so extreme in their religion compared to Muslims in other countries ?

                                    Remenber when you see a very radical religious person is because in truth that person does not really believe in God, it is the worst hypocrite. Mattew 2311 But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 And whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.

                                    A way to see verse 2217 is that the enemies of Muslims will never stop until they make muslims reject, repudiate, disown,apostatize their religion/law/system. So what better way than to destroy it from within using the most hypocrite Muslims as the promoters of the new ideas, putting so much weight on the shoulders of Muslims until they repudiate their religion.

                                    Some words atributed to Pophet Jesus, (parentesis mine)Mattew 234-7
                                    4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues(mosques),7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called by men, Rabbi, Rabbi (iman, sheik, ulama).

                                    Qur' an ASAD 2185 ......God wills that you shall have ease, and does not will you to suffer hardship;......
                                    Quran Yusuf ali 2185....... God intends every facility for you; He does not want to put to difficulties......

                                    When The British conquered the middle east in the late 1800 (sorry if I am wrong) 1'st world war was between Germany and Britain for control of oil in middle east. Anyway , they thought carefully about who to put in power in each of the new countries they formed and named. Guess who they put. the most hypocrite people that they could find. As Example Arabia. don't take my word for it Read.

                                    997 The Arabs of the desert are the worst in Unbelief and hypocrisy, and most fitted to be in ignorance of the command which Allah hath sent down to His Apostle But Allah is All-knowing, All-Wise.
                                    Al-aAArabu ashaddu kufran wanifaqanwaajdaru alla yaAAlamoo hudooda ma anzalaAllahu AAala rasoolihi waAllahuAAaleemun hakeemun

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                                      About the issue of women
                                      I still can't understand how somebody can hate women; thought I have never feel hate for anybody; not even in my worst nightmares I have been feeling hate for women. For me that just sounds impossible, they bear us with hardship, they feed us, they raise us, etc. To me they look like something fragile that should be handled with care and love (I know, I know there are tough/strong women, and that they are not different than men except in the flesh, this is just to explain why I can never feel hate toward them). Hating women is like hating your own mother and your sisters, that is a horrible disease of the heart.

                                      I feel sad when women are led astray and misuse by society, leading them astray by their own vanity. but not all the blame is on one side only. Read this Suna Hero you say you are from Spain I am from Mex.
                                      english translation at the end
                                      translations of poems are not the same; but here translator did a good job.

                                      Hombres necios que acus?is a la mujer sin raz?n de Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz(12 November 1651 ? 17 April 1695)

                                      Hombres necios que acus?is
                                      a la mujer sin raz?n,
                                      sin ver que sois la ocasi?n
                                      de lo mismo que culp?is

                                      si con ansia sin igual
                                      solicit?is su desd?n,
                                      ?por qu? quer?is que obren bien
                                      si la incit?is al mal?

                                      Cambat?s su resistencia
                                      y luego, con gravedad,
                                      dec?s que fue liviandad
                                      lo que hizo la diligencia.

                                      Parecer quiere el denuedo
                                      de vuestro parecer loco
                                      el ni?o que pone el coco
                                      y luego le tiene miedo.

                                      Quer?is, con presunci?n necia,
                                      hallar a la que busc?is,
                                      para pretendida, Thais,
                                      y en la posesi?n, Lucrecia.

                                      ?Qu? humor puede ser m?s raro
                                      que el que, falto de consejo,
                                      ?l mismo empa?a el espejo,
                                      y siente que no est? claro?

                                      Con el favor y desd?n
                                      ten?is condici?n igual,
                                      quej?ndoos, si os tratan mal,
                                      burl?ndoos, si os quieren bien.

                                      Siempre tan necios and?is
                                      que, con desigual nivel,
                                      a una culp?is por cr?el
                                      y a otra por f?cil culp?is.

                                      ?Pues como ha de estar templada
                                      la que vuestro amor pretende,
                                      si la que es ingrata, ofende,
                                      y la que es f?cil, enfada?

                                      Mas, entre el enfado y pena
                                      que vuestro gusto refiere,
                                      bien haya la que no os quiere
                                      y quejaos en hora buena.

                                      Dan vuestras amantes penas
                                      a sus libertades alas,
                                      y despu?s de hacerlas malas
                                      las quer?is hallar muy buenas.

                                      ?Cu?l mayor culpa ha tenido
                                      en una pasi?n errada
                                      la que cae de rogada,
                                      o el que ruega de ca?do?

                                      ?O cu?l es m?s de culpar,
                                      aunque cualquiera mal haga
                                      la que peca por la paga,
                                      o el que paga por pecar?

                                      Pues ?para qu? os espant?is
                                      de la culpa que ten?is?
                                      Queredlas cual las hac?is
                                      o hacedlas cual las busc?is.

                                      Dejad de solicitar,
                                      y despu?s, con m?s raz?n,
                                      acusar?is la afici?n
                                      de la que os fuere a rogar.

                                      Bien con muchas armas fundo
                                      que lidia vuestra arrogancia,
                                      pues en promesa e instancia
                                      junt?is diablo, carne y mundo.

                                      (English)

                                      stubborn men that accuse women withouth reason. From Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz(12 November 1651 ? 17 April 1695)
                                      Silly, you men-so very adept
                                      at wrongly faulting womankind,
                                      not seeing you're alone to blame
                                      for faults you plant in woman's mind.

                                      After you've won by urgent plea
                                      the right to tarnish her good name,
                                      you still expect her to behave?
                                      you, that coaxed her into shame.

                                      You batter her resistance down
                                      and then, all righteousness, proclaim
                                      that feminine frivolity,
                                      not your persistence, is to blame.

                                      When it comes to bravely posturing,
                                      your witlessness must take the prize
                                      you're the child that makes a bogeyman,
                                      and then recoils in fear and cries.

                                      Presumptuous beyond belief,
                                      you'd have the woman you pursue
                                      be Thais when you're courting her,
                                      Lucretia once she falls to you.

                                      For plain default of common sense,
                                      could any action be so queer
                                      as oneself to cloud the mirror,
                                      then complain that it's not clear?

                                      Whether you're favored or disdained,
                                      nothing can leave you satisfied.
                                      You whimper if you're turned away,
                                      you sneer if you've been gratified.

                                      With you, no woman can hope to score;
                                      whichever way, she's bound to lose;
                                      spurning you, she's ungrateful?
                                      succumbing, you call her lewd.

                                      Your folly is always the same
                                      you apply a single rule
                                      to the one you accuse of looseness
                                      and the one you brand as cruel.

                                      What happy mean could there be
                                      for the woman who catches your eye,
                                      if, unresponsive, she offends,
                                      yet whose complaisance you decry?

                                      Still, whether it's torment or anger?
                                      and both ways you've yourselves to blame?
                                      God bless the woman who won't have you,
                                      no matter how loud you complain.

                                      It's your persistent entreaties
                                      that change her from timid to bold.
                                      Having made her thereby naughty,
                                      you would have her good as gold.

                                      So where does the greater guilt lie
                                      for a passion that should not be
                                      with the man who pleads out of baseness
                                      or the woman debased by his plea?

                                      Or which is more to be blamed?
                                      though both will have cause for chagrin
                                      the woman who sins for money
                                      or the man who pays money to sin?

                                      So why are you men all so stunned
                                      at the thought you're all guilty alike?
                                      Either like them for what you've made them
                                      or make of them what you can like.

                                      If you'd give up pursuing them,
                                      you'd discover, without a doubt,
                                      you've a stronger case to make
                                      against those who seek you out.

                                      I well know what powerful arms
                                      you wield in pressing for evil
                                      your arrogance is allied
                                      with the world, the flesh, and the devil!

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                                        When The British conquered the middle east in the late 1800 (sorry if I am wrong) 1'st world war was between Germany and Britain for control of oil in middle east. Anyway , they thought carefully about who to put in power in each of the new countries they formed and named. Guess who they put. the most hypocrite people that they could find. As Example Arabia. don't take my word for it Read.

                                        o a whole part of my history I knew nothing about but I doubt this has anything to do with the UK muslims being over zealous, most of the over zealous sunni muslims in UK are of Pakistani descent. peace

                                        997 The Arabs of the desert are the worst in Unbelief and hypocrisy, and most fitted to be in ignorance of the command which Allah hath sent down to His Apostle But Allah is All-knowing, All-Wise.
                                        Al-aAArabu ashaddu kufran wanifaqanwaajdaru alla yaAAlamoo hudooda ma anzalaAllahu AAala rasoolihi waAllahuAAaleemun hakeemun

                                        Always wondered why that is translated this way when they Arabic just says 'the Arabs' ???

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                                          a whole part of my history I knew nothing about but I doubt this has anything to do with the UK muslims being over zealous, most of the over zealous sunni muslims in UK are of Pakistani descent. peace

                                          From my experience, because, they want to emulate the Arabs.

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