Know that:
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Male or female; how is that important? Genetically you are a direct descendant of the prophet (saws), if you descend from one of his children. In addition there is the genetic input of Ali (ra), the cousin of Fatima's father.
Serious question is that genetic inherence so important that it needs to be highlighted above say, a ethnic European family like mine with next to no direct link to Semitic prophets?
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Serious question is that genetic inherence so important that it needs to be highlighted above say, a ethnic European family like mine with next to no direct link to Semitic prophets?
salaam Mikebloke
I would say genetics plays an important part in the formation of our resp. personalities; just how great is difficult to assess obviously. You could perhaps say that genetics may provide a healthy plant, and the careful nurturing of it brings out a good tree.
Obviously there are good and bad plants in every environment so no need to be despondent if, like me, you have 'next to no direct link to Semitic prophets'. You could still grow to be, as it were a very useful tree, bearing rich fruit. yes -
salaam Mikebloke
I would say genetics plays an important part in the formation of our resp. personalities; just how great is difficult to assess obviously. You could perhaps say that genetics may provide a healthy plant, and the careful nurturing of it brings out a good tree.
Obviously there are good and bad plants in every environment so no need to be despondent if, like me, you have 'next to no direct link to Semitic prophets'. You could still grow to be, as it were a very useful tree, bearing rich fruit. yesWsalam I guess this leads to my next question, does having a genetic link to Ali make one more intelligent, more attractive, deserve more respect or more worthy of God than one without?
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Wsalam I guess this leads to my next question, does having a genetic link to Ali make one more intelligent, more attractive, deserve more respect or more worthy of God than one without?
salaam+
I would say no, but it makes you more likely to have inherited some of the good qualities of prophet Muhammad (saws), which were apparent in many of his descendants. With careful nurturing, you may also be more prone to fear God and, perhaps be charitable and disposed to studying and reflecting on His signs in this world.
With no comparisons, apart from the purely genetical, when breeding excellent horses one selects, for a quality breeding mare, a stallion whose offspring displays a strong resemblance to their sire, in the complimenting qualities you look for. This will greatly enhance chances of breeding excellence. Genetically the same holds true for humans. peace -
Continuing the genetical comparison to horse breeding; if you have genetically outstanding breeding material you may want to try linear breeding(in-breeding) where a Sire (father) may cover his daughter etc.
This could produce a very stable and predictable breed, where the offspring are all but clones of its Sire.The Muslim custom of cousin marriages can produce very similar results over time. wow -
671 Say, "Shall we call upon other than God what cannot benefit us or harm us, and we turn back on our heels after God has guided us?" This is like the one whom the devils have managed to mislead on earth, he is confused, having friends who call him to the guidance "Come to us!" Say, "The guidance is God's guidance, and we have been ordered to peacefully surrender to the Lord of the worlds."
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From Gita--
Whosoever desires to worship whatever deity ? using any name, form, and method ? with faith, I make their faith steady in that very deity. Endowed with steady faith they worship that deity, and obtain their wishes through that deity. Those wishes are, indeed, granted only by Me. (7.21-22)
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Salam al-amiyr, Who are these Neo-Tucsonians? I have no knowledge of them. Can you tell me/us more about their onslaught?
Thank you in advance.
salaam faruk
I would like to talk to you about who the Neo-Tucsonians are and about their onslaught. For a proper and complete explanation of this, I need more time. If I would give just a little information it would make no sense and then I feel that you and the others would prolong your onslaught against me. If you will be a little more patient I will present everything in a future thread of the same name inshaa ALLAAH. For now
Have you heard about 'aHlu-sh-shakk ( ) Doubtians of the Darkness- possessors of no light?
Advancing in my thanks
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Peace,
All those who are Shi'a please raise your hands!
It makes no difference who you descended from, hidden books, special knowledge, race
are all nonsense unless God states it to be so like in the case of Ibrahim. The Quran
makes no mention of a special lineage of Muhammad. It is a Shi'a innovation. Please
correct me if I am wrong.peace
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Peace,
All those who are Shi'a please raise your hands!
It makes no difference who you descended from, hidden books, special knowledge, race
are all nonsense unless God states it to be so like in the case of Ibrahim. The Quran
makes no mention of a special lineage of Muhammad. It is a Shi'a innovation. Please
correct me if I am wrong.peace
Peace Hawk
Let me correct you . There have always been people who excel others and to an extent their children inherit the preponderance to excellence through their genes and then with nurturing and, setting a good example, their offspring take after them.
Just look at the illustrious line of Imraan that has produced such a great number of prophets and righteous servants of Allaah (swt). This is no invention by the Shiaa but a part of His great plan.
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Peace Hawk
Let me correct you . There have always been people who excel others and to an extent their children inherit the preponderance to excellence through their genes and then with nurturing and, setting a good example, their offspring take after them.
Just look at the illustrious line of Imraan that has produced such a great number of prophets and righteous servants of Allaah (swt). This is no invention by the Shiaa but a part of His great plan.
peacePeace G.Omar,
Thank you for the correction, I am aware of the lineage of Ibrahim and Imraan.
GOD has chosen Adam, Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of Amram
to the people.They belong in the same progeny. GOD is Hearer, Omniscient.
My inquiry is asking, Where does God speak of the lineage of Muhammad?
Please no links and no hadiths, just ayats from the word of God.
God bless
peace
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Peace G.Omar,
Thank you for the correction, I am aware of the lineage of Ibrahim and Imraan.
GOD has chosen Adam, Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of Amram
to the people.They belong in the same progeny. GOD is Hearer, Omniscient.
My inquiry is asking, Where does God speak of the lineage of Muhammad?
Please no links and no hadiths, just ayats from the word of God.
God bless
peace
Peace Hawk,
I'm not aware of any ayaats from Al Qur'aan, where 'God speaks of the lineage of Muhammad'. You can however infer that a man, and a Prophet of such outstanding virtue as Muhammad (saws) does not arise by chance, nor were his genes lost with his death. Do you deny that genes have a significant impact on the offspring of a person? nope
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Peace G.Omar,
Thank you for the correction, I am aware of the lineage of Ibrahim and Imraan.
GOD has chosen Adam, Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of Amram
to the people.They belong in the same progeny. GOD is Hearer, Omniscient.
My inquiry is asking, Where does God speak of the lineage of Muhammad?
Please no links and no hadiths, just ayats from the word of God.
God bless
peace
salaam
I think the right approach is to learn from the Qur'an about the forefathers of Muhammad's SA, who is from the lineage of Ibrahiym, through his elder son Ismail?
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Salam,
How difficult to drive a Ferrari within the speed limit of less than 10 miles per hour?
(<a href="http//quran.com/3/7">37</a>, <a href="http//quran.com/5/101">5101</a>, <a href="http//quran.com/2/67-71">267-71</a>salaam+
Before you put your foot on the accelerator of that Ferrari think of the direction you are driving to hmm
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salaam+ brother
And if there is darkness then you would need to switch on light(noor) so you are able to see the direction you are taking yes
peaceSalam,
That's why we need Allah, to monitor closely our terms and conditions of contract.
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