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    jhonsonmustafa
    wrote on last edited by
    #282

    Peace Brother Muslims,

    The Quran was ofcourse descended in Arabic (native)language on our prophet/messenger Mohammad. Please note that according to Ayats

    4458 - We have thus made it easy in your language, perhaps they may take heed.

    144 - And We have not sent any messenger except in the language of his people, so he may clarify for them. But God misguides whom He wills, and He guides whom He wills. And He is the Noble, the Wise

    16103 - And We are aware that they say "A human being is teaching him." The tongue of the one they refer to is foreign, while this is a clear Arabic tongue.

    Suppose if Prophet Mohammad was born in France, then the Quran would have descened in French (native language of Prophet Mohammad to warn people going astray or to assure heaven for people who do good deeds).

    Language is not important. But the MESSAGE is.

    Sabina

    Excellent Sister. God Bless you

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      muslims
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      #283

      Peace Brother,

      No intention of picking up fight. You neglected 22, 178 and supporting Hadith.
      Quran is the Root in language. Its only for reference. The Quran is available in 1000+ plus languages.
      Those who wish Allah will reveal in native language.

      144
      And We did not send any messenger except in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.

      434
      And verily, it is in the Mother Language of the Book, in Our Presence, high (in dignity), full of wisdom.

      Salam jhonsonmustafa,

      So am I, and please read and understand the issue to our discussion (refer here) before you bring any irrelevant assertion to the existing discussion.

      Peace brother peace

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        jhonsonmustafa
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        #284

        Peace Muslims,

        I am only asking one question.

        What English word would you replace the word "religion" with according to your understanding?

        If you do not have an answer why not just say so? Millions read the Quran translated in
        various languages, so your point is nil. Until you can come up with a better translation
        than the word "religion" it will stand. No offense intended.

        109/6 I am not calling anyone kafir, but just an example of translations.

        Sahih International For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."

        Pickthall Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.

        Yusuf Ali To you be your Way, and to me mine.

        Shakir You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.

        Muhammad Sarwar You follow your religion and I follow mine.

        Mohsin Khan "To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islamic Monotheism)."

        Arberry To you your religion, and to me my religion!'

        God bless

        peace

        Salam Brother,

        Correct brother, Allah reveals Quran in their native language those who wish for straight path.

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          muslims
          wrote on last edited by
          #285

          What English word would you replace the word "religion" with according to your understanding?

          If you do not have an answer why not just say so? Millions read the Quran translated in
          various languages, so your point is nil. Until you can come up with a better translation
          than the word "religion" it will stand. No offense intended.

          Correct brother, Allah reveals Quran in their native language those who wish for straight path.

          Salam jhonsonmustafa,

          I believe you have misunderstood his comment.

          Peace brother peace

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            jhonsonmustafa
            wrote on last edited by
            #286

            Objective

            Method

            Requirement

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            Sadaqah Objective (Self Improvement)

            100% (what you love) Attain righteousness
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            90% Attain what? futility?
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            80% Attain what? futility?
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            70% Attain what? futility?
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            60% Attain what? futility?
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            50% Attain what? futility?
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            40% Attain what? futility?
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            30% Attain what? futility?
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            20% Attain what? futility?
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            10% Attain what? futility?
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            2.5% Attain what? futility? <- Zakah

            Similarly...

            Sawm/Fast Objective (Self Improvement)
            (Level of starvation)
            100% Attain righteousness? <- Near to death experience?
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            90% Attain what? futility?
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            80% Attain what? futility?
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            70% Attain what? futility?
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            60% Attain what? futility?
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            50% Attain what? futility?
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            40% Attain what? futility?
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            30% Attain what? futility?
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            20% Attain what? futility?
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            10% Attain what? futility?
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            2.5% Attain what? futility? <- Fasting in the month of Ramadhan

            Peace brother,

            Could you please explain from Quran only.

            I don't want Graphic Images. I want the words of intuition from Allah.

            What is Ramadan ?
            What is Fasting?
            What is Hajj?
            Whats is Salah?

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              muslims
              wrote on last edited by
              #287

              Peace brother,

              Could you please explain from Quran only.

              I don't want Graphic Images. I want the words of intuition from Allah.

              What is Ramadan ?
              What is Fasting?
              What is Hajj?
              Whats is Salah?

              Salam jhonsonmustafa,

              What am I explaining?

              Can you please read carefully before making any comment?

              Refer to the method section.

              Peace brother.

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                wrote on last edited by
                #288

                (refer to index)

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                Beyond Religion -> Sunnatullah

                Say, "O disbelievers,

                I do not worship what you worship <- Prostrate to God Alone, accordingly, any god/religion.
                Nor are you worshippers of what I worship <- Prostrate to Allah & Adam (Humanity), Sunnatullah.

                Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship <- Religious People & God Alone Concept.
                Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship <- Upright man (Muslim) - Unity, regardless of religion etc.

                For you is your deen <- Religion - Right or wrong - Fire Element - Sectarianism.
                and for me is my deen <- Deen - Unity - Sunnatullah - Justly balanced - Fire/Earth/Air/Water.
                (109)

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                Ibrahim was not a Jew <- Ibrahim has no religion. So as Muhammad, not a Jew/Christian (religion).
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                but he was (an) upright (man) <- showing a great concern for what is right, fair and truthful way
                a Muslim <- defined by the above ayat - an upright man - obedience and justly balanced.
                and he was not one of the polytheists <- Concern with right/wrong in religious matters - 3030-32

                Most surely the nearest of people to Ibrahim
                are those
                who followed him
                and this Prophet
                and those who believe
                and Allah is the guardian of the believers
                (367-6

                And whoever seeks a "dnan" (&#1575 other than Islam <- Religion of Islam vs. Deen of Islam
                it will NEVER be accepted of him
                and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers
                (385)

                The Qur'an confirms other books, including hadith and other religious or man made books etc.

                Look for similarities
                to unite the society
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                They are free to
                practice their deen (way of life)
                (unconditional freedom)
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                (Fire/Air/Water/Earth) -> Confirmed by the Qur'an as..
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                +--> Torah ----------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                +--> Injeel ---------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                +--> Hadith --------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                +--> Sunni ----------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                Texts
                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                +--> Shia ------------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                Texts
                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                +--> Khawarij ------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                Texts
                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                +--> Buddhism -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                Texts
                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                +--> Confucianism +-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                Texts
                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                +--> Hinduism ------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                Texts
                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                +--> Zoroastrianism +-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                Texts
                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                Qur'an +--> Scientology +-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity
                Confirming --->| Texts |
                Book | +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity
                (Justly |
                Balanced) |
                +--> Atheism -------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                Text/Laws
                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                +--> Man made ----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                Laws
                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                +--> Company -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                Laws
                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                +--> Satanism -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                Texts
                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                +--> Mathematics -+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                Theory/Books
                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                +--> Sciences ------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                Theory/Books
                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                +--> Geography ---+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                Theory/Books
                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                +--> Economy ------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                Theory/Books
                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                +--> Accounting ---+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                Theory/Books
                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                +--> Computer -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                Theory/Books
                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                +--> Political --------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                Theory/Books
                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                +--> and so on -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                Theory/Books
                +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                |
                |
                |
                |
                and so on

                For you is your deen
                (War Zone - <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335480#msg335480">God Alone</a> - Right vs. Wrong - Sectarianism)
                and
                For me is my deen
                (Human Unity - <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335753#msg335753">Prostrate to Adam</a> - All from Allah and "I Submit" to Justly Balanced)
                (<a href="http//quran.com/109/6">1096</a&gt

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                Indeed, prayer prohibits immorality and wrongdoing (<a href="http//quran.com/29/45">2945</a&gt

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                Islam
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                Formula
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                Attributes
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                Understanding of Sunnatullah (Just & Balance) on the following attributes ...
                (How to blend these elements and creating the Planet of Earth - (<a href="http//quran.com/49/13">4913</a&gt)
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                Fire Air Water Earth
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                Fire Air Water Earth
                South West East North
                Asmaullah Afaalullah Sifatullah Dzatullah
                Hablum Minallah Hablum Minannas Wisdom Khalif
                Qur'an Communication Knowledge Persistence
                Law / Policy Humanism Expertise Kusyu / Humble
                (Who is right?
                Who is wrong?)

                We can apply this formula in all aspects of our life

                The destructive aspect of the fire element.

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                Stand up for what is right and wrong .. black and white. <- War zone - fire elements

                The world will hate Islam.

                Society will break apart to pieces.

                Stand up for what is just and balance in the society.

                It will bring harmony.

                It will unite humanity.

                This is Islam.

                = Objective of Khalif -> Manager (To understand Just and Balance - To understand Sunnatullah)
                = Manager -> To manage the Earth -> Negotiator, Mediator and Conciliator
                = To bring Balance
                -> Balance bring Justice
                -> Justice bring Harmony
                -> Harmony bring Security
                -> Security bring Happiness
                -> Happiness bring Love
                -> Love bring Satisfaction
                -> Satisfaction bring Alhamdulillah
                -> Alhamdulillah bring Fear (of losing Allah's attention/guidance etc ..
                as those person who are in deep love)
                -> Fear will motivate us to become better human being -> Khalif
                -> Khalif -> Reality
                -> Reality -> Allah
                = Din of Islam

                Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah
                is the most righteous of you <- justly balanced

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                  #289

                  These words (label) may be removed from the Muslim's minds ...

                  Right Wrong

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                  Justly balanced Unjust
                  (maslahat = mudharat) (maslahat alone or mudharat alone)
                  (to all living creatures) (for any selected sects or group of peoples)

                  to humanity / living creatures

                  (regardless of religion, sects, race or ethnic origin, belief, age etc.)

                  From the above, we can see that the Qur'an teaches us how to balance and achieve justice ..

                  It is the "Ihdina assirata almustaqeem" (16); "..and you become three kinds.." (567)

                  Why it is about balance and just?

                  Because ...

                  We cannot change to what is right (just) in the fire element. -> unjust to the air, water and earth.
                  We cannot change to what is right (just) in the air element. -> unjust to the fire, water and earth.
                  We cannot change to what is right (just) in the water element. -> unjust to the fire, air and earth.
                  We cannot change to what is right (just) in the earth element. -> unjust to the fire, air and water.
                  We cannot change to what is right (just) in all these elements.
                  We cannot change what is wrong (unjust) in all these elements.

                  However, we can balance the major and minor "right (just)" in all these elements.
                  ie. right 1 + right 2 + right 3 + right 4 and so on...

                  ...

                  Can 0% or less than 50% wrong (unjust) be achieved?

                  Nope, because all these elements exist in all living creatures.

                  It is Sunnatullah, and Allah is The Just, Al-`Adl (&#1604.

                  Therefore, our real issue in life is why human are fighting each other and standing for what is right or wrong? (refer here)

                  Our real issue in life is why not stand up for human unity, based on what is just and balance?

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                    Here is a wild suggestion.

                    How to incorporate the Qur'an into any countries or laws?

                    1. Forget about Islamic labels or identities (favorite issues to the Mushrikeen - sectarianism), and do not mention or represent the "religion" of Islam. Islam is not a religion. Focus on what is prohibited in the Qur'an and deals publicly with the question of how to improve the way of life (deen) of all human beings / living creatures.

                    2. List all the "DO NOT" in the Qur'an.

                    3. Study all religious texts and list all the "DO NOT" in their texts - named it whatever you like - eg. One World Religion Act, Humanitarian Acts etc. Avoid any Islamic names or identities.

                    4. Study and master the rule in the "common laws and equity", and any other man-made laws. They cannot reject what is just to human beings, and especially, what come from the man made laws and their religious texts.

                    5. Compare the "DO NOT" lists from both the Qur'an and their religious texts.

                    6. List out all the "DO NOT" which are consistent or corroborate with the Qur'an.

                    7. List out all the rules of equity or laws which are consistent or corroborate with the Qur'an (the "DO NOT" list).

                    8. Prepare the draft bill/argument/debate to Parliament - or write books - or as a draft agreement between NGOs - or build website giving free draft agreements etc.

                    9. Enacted as laws (not necessarily named as Islamic laws - the name is not important - avoid anything Islamic).

                    The strategy can also be applied to any company or society constitution etc.

                    Important institution = NGOs related to the research of laws and humanitarian etc.

                    Peace.

                    It is preferable for the objective to be related with something not causing "mudharat" (harm) to self, others and all living creatures; and according to their faith.

                    The priority between .. "prohibition" vs. "command".

                    What is "prohibited" (prevention/protection/preservation/justly balanced to human beings) should be given priority over what is commanded by Allah (compulsion to other religions or disbelievers, raise resistance).

                    They said
                    "Will You place upon it one
                    who causes corruption therein <- mudharat
                    and sheds blood
                    while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?"
                    (230)

                    So there is no "to promote" in the objective, but "to prevent" (deen, dayn, debt, duty not to cause mudharat, duty to protect).

                    Paradise
                    |
                    Allah's Command
                    (maximum - mostly not achievable)
                    (Bonus Level - Level for Individual)
                    Compromise - Based on sincerity
                    |
                    100%
                    |
                    90%
                    |
                    80%
                    |
                    70%
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                    60%
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                    50%
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                    0 <------------ Prohibition (Do Not) ------------> 0

                    Minimum Level for Unity in the Society (Foundation)
                    (Acceptable by all living creatures as justly balanced - Unity - Society will improve from this level)
                    No compromise
                    |
                    Hell

                    O you who have believed
                    DO NOT ASK about things
                    which if they are shown to you
                    will distress you <- Things that will cause resistance in the society. No unity! Mission failed!
                    But if you ask about them while the Qur'an is being revealed
                    they will be shown to you
                    Allah has pardoned that which is past
                    and Allah is Forgiving and Forbearing <- It doesn't matter right or wrong, Allah will forgive!
                    (5101)

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                      For you is your deen <- Sectarianism - based on "religion" etc. - a bigot - God alone concept
                      and for me is my deen <- Human Unity - based on "deen" - righteousness - fairness
                      (109)

                      Ibrahim was not a Jew <- Ibrahim has no religion, so as Muhammad. Nonsectarian.
                      nor a Christian http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKi*MBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
                      but he was (an) upright (man) <- showing a great concern for what is right, fair and truthful way
                      a Muslim <- Muslim = an upright man - a Muslim is defined by the above ayat
                      and he was not one of the polytheists <- Sectarianism
                      (367-6 Concern with right/wrong in religious matters - 3030-32

                      Comparison (refer here)

                      Hasty generalization <- sectarianism, religion, bigotry

                      Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc is true for A (unjust).
                      Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc is true for B (unjust).
                      Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc is true for C (unjust).
                      Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc is true for D (unjust).

                      Therefore...

                      Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc is true for
                      E (way of life - deen)
                      F (way of life - deen)
                      G (way of life - deen), etc.

                      and..

                      What about that is justly balanced in the Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc ?

                      Sectarianism, according to one definition, is bigotry, discrimination, or hatred arising from attaching importance to perceived differences between subdivisions within a group, such as between different denominations of a religion, class, regional or factions of a political movement.

                      The ideological underpinnings of attitudes and behaviours labelled as sectarian are extraordinarily varied. Members of a religious or political group may believe that their own salvation, or the success of their particular objectives, requires aggressively seeking converts from other groups; adherents of a given faction may believe that for the achievement of their own political or religious project their internal opponents must be converted or purged.

                      Sometimes a group that is under economic or political pressure will kill or attack members of another group which it regards as responsible for its own decline. It may also more rigidly define the definition of "orthodox" belief within its particular group or organisation, and expel or excommunicate those who do not support this newfound clarified definition of political or religious 'orthodoxy'. In other cases, dissenters from this orthodoxy will secede from the orthodox organisation and proclaim themselves as practitioners of a reformed belief system, or holders of a perceived former orthodoxy. At other times, sectarianism may be the expression of a group's nationalistic or cultural ambitions, or exploited by demagogues; Wikipedia

                      Sectarianism is
                      bigotry
                      discrimination
                      or hatred

                      arising from
                      attaching importance to perceived differences between subdivisions within a group
                      such as between different denominations of
                      a religion
                      class
                      regional
                      or factions of a political movement

                      Bigotry is

                      the state of mind of a bigot

                      someone who
                      as a result of their prejudices
                      treats other people with
                      fear
                      distrust
                      hatred
                      contempt
                      or intolerance

                      on the basis of a person's
                      ethnicity
                      religion
                      national origin
                      gender
                      sexual orientation
                      disability
                      socioeconomic status
                      or other characteristics

                      A bigot is

                      a prejudiced person
                      who is intolerant
                      of any opinions
                      differing from their own

                      or intolerant of people
                      of different
                      political views
                      ethnicity
                      race
                      class
                      religion
                      profession
                      sexuality
                      or gender

                      The origin of the word bigot and bigoterie (bigotry) in English dates back to at least 1598, via Middle French, and started with the sense of "religious hypocrite". This meaning still survives in Italian, in the cognate word bigotto. The exact origin of the word is unknown, but it may have come from the German bei and Gott, or the English by God; Online Etymology Dictionary; see also Nobody wants to be called a bigot

                      Discrimination is

                      the prejudicial
                      and/or distinguishing treatment of an individual

                      based on their
                      actual or perceived membership
                      in a certain group or category
                      "in a way that is worse than the way people are usually treated"

                      Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah
                      is the most righteous of you <- justly balanced; ie. fairness vs. a bigot

                      And whoever seeks a "dnan" (&#1575 other than Islam
                      it will NEVER be accepted of him
                      and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers
                      (<a href="http//corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=3&verse=85">385</a&gt

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                        Can a sectarian be a successor or a Khalif?

                        Can a sectarian (a bigot) be a judge to other/all human beings?

                        Indeed, We have revealed to you
                        the Book in truth
                        so you may judge between the people <- purpose of the Qur'an
                        by that which Allah has shown you
                        And do not be for the deceitful an advocate
                        (4105)

                        Indeed, Allah commands you to render trusts
                        to whom they are due <- all human beings, including all living creatures
                        and when you judge between people
                        to judge with justice
                        Excellent is that which Allah instructs you
                        Indeed, Allah is ever Hearing and Seeing
                        (458)

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                          (refer to index)

                          Whether Prophet Ibrahim and Muhammad are bigots?

                          No, refer to (367-68).

                          Whether the Jew, Christian and polytheists are bigots?

                          Whether the Sunnism, Shi'ism, Quranism, Wahhabbism etc are bigots?

                          Whether Muslim is bigotry?

                          Muslim
                          |
                          |
                          Deen
                          (regardless of religions etc.)
                          |
                          |
                          Justly balanced
                          |

                          A "dnan" (&#1575 other than Islam <------------- Islam? -------------> it will NEVER be accepted of him

                          (385)
                          |
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                          Fallacy of Generalization
                          (of what is justly balanced and unjust)
                          |
                          |
                          Religion of Islam etc.
                          (Madhab - God Alone Concept)
                          |
                          |
                          Bigot
                          (Sectarian)

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                            http//s16.postimg.org/cyvakuyx1/deen.png

                            Towards Human Unity

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335929#msg335929">Tests from Allah</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335256#msg335256">Main Issue</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335480#msg335480">What is God Alone Religion? </a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335690#msg335690">Defintion of Just and Balance (Sunnatullah)</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335855#msg335855">What is Islam?</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335472#msg335472">Prostrate to Adam</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336532#msg336532">The Common Aspects of Religions.</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335571#msg335571">Which is the right religion ?</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336528#msg336528">The destructive aspect of the fire element.</a>

                            For you is your deen, and for me is my deen

                            Islam is not a religion (madhab)

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335361#msg335361">Islam A Challenge to Religion</a>

                            A comparative study of religion or madhhab

                            Whether Deen is Religion (Madhab)?

                            Religion and the Fallacy of Generalization

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335823#msg335823">The Quranic Concept of Salvation</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335261#msg335261">Allah will never accept Religion of Islam</a>

                            Examle of Deen <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336008#msg336008">1</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335737#msg335737">2</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335738#msg335738">3</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335739#msg335739">4</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335740#msg335740">5</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335741#msg335741">6</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335742#msg335742">7</a>.

                            Beyond Religion Sunnatullah

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335531#msg335531">Purpose of creation</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335579#msg335579">What is "Sirat al-Mustaqim"?</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336009#msg336009">What does Adam represent?</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335753#msg335753">Descendants of Adam.</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335266#msg335266">Who is a Muslim?</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335603#msg335603">The "DO NOT" prohibition</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605770.msg336452#msg336452">Hadith & Sects.</a> <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605770.msg336423#msg336423">Sura</a> + <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605770.msg336428#msg336428">Prohibition</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335928#msg335928">Impossible for people who i'tiqad to disobey Allah to enter Paradise.</a>

                            Why Prophet Ibrahim and Muhammad was not a Jew or Christian?

                            DO NOT die except as Muslims

                            Description of a Muslim in the Qur'an

                            A Muslim or a Bigot?

                            Can a sectarian (a bigot) be a judge to other/all human beings?

                            Borderline between a Muslim and a Bigot

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335476#msg335476">Muslim Job Scope</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335931#msg335931">Purpose of Life</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335891#msg335891">Alhamdu</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336009#msg336009">Allah Alone is no use for our salvation</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336010#msg336010">Duty Awareness Program (Deen)</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335950#msg335950">What is Right or Wrong?</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336077#msg336077">The Qur'an is about us.</a>

                            What does the Qur'an teach?

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335263#msg335263">Duty To Ourselves</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335265#msg335265">Understanding The Quran</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335283#msg335283">Language of the Heart</a>

                            Level of understanding the Qur'an

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335515#msg335515">What is Reality?</a> <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335521#msg335521">(2)</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335524#msg335524">(3)</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335788#msg335788">Qur'an is an introductory Book, Guidance or Manual.</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335810#msg335810">Signs</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335950#msg335950">Pleasure</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336130#msg336130">Dictionary of the Qur'an</a>

                            Other forms of Shirk

                            Shirk & the God and Ulema within ourselves

                            Shirk in the form of a very fine

                            The key to understand justly balanced

                            The Qur'anic standard for the attainment of righteousness

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335472#msg335472">Philosophy of Salat</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335474#msg335474">True Solat is Jihad?</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335659#msg335659">Formula for Success</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335483#msg335483">First Step - Fire</a>

                            Purpose of Ibada

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335476#msg335476">Formula for Unity - Negotiator, Mediator and Conciliator</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335880#msg335880">Towards Human Unity</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335750#msg335750">Unconditional Freedom</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336189#msg336189">The Flow of Ideas</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336234#msg336234">Example of Quranic Ideas</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336219#msg336219">Ideas of Just and Balance</a>

                            <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336265#msg336265">When Being Wrong Is Right</a>

                            The Matrix of Justly Balanced For Our Salvation

                            Why the matrix?

                            Qur'an as the Confirming Book

                            Look for similarities to unite the society

                            Words (label) to be removed from the mind of any Muslim

                            How to incorporate the Qur'an into any countries or laws?

                            Islamic Constitution

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                              For the purpose of description and easy understanding on our current level of faith...

                              Philosophy on the level of understanding/obedience to the Qur'an

                              Indeed, IT IS A NOBLE QURAN
                              In a protected Book <- Who can unlock if Allah protect its true understanding?
                              None can grasp it
                              except those purified (from shirk) <- The key to understand the Qur'an
                              (<a href="http//quran.com/56/77-79">5677-79</a&gt The key to obedience (refer here and here)

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                                    None dispute concerning the communications of Allah but those who disbelieve <--- Borderline
                                    (breach of contract (<a href="http//quran.com/2/27">227</a&gt) (non-muslim)
                                    (the "DO NOT" prohibition - impossible to enter paradise)
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                                    DISBELIEVER
                                    (disobedience)
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                                    Munafiqoon
                                    (disobey silently)
                                    (<a href="http//quran.com/2/8">28</a&gt
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                                    Mushrikeen
                                    (disobey openly)
                                    (<a href="http//quran.com/39/38">3938</a&gt(<a href="http//quran.com/30/30-32">3030-32</a&gt(<a href="http//quran.com/6/121">6121</a&gt(<a href="http//quran.com/6/150">6150</a&gt
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                                    True Disbeliever
                                    (26)
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                                    Prehuman ?
                                    (822)

                              • a simple draft for easy understanding and not necessarily in order or most accurate

                              None dispute concerning the communications of Allah but those who disbelieve
                              (404)

                              Such has been the course of Allah that has indeed run before
                              and you shall not find a change in Allah's course
                              (4823)

                              And We said O Adam!
                              Dwell you and your wife in the garden
                              and eat from it a plenteous (food) wherever you wish
                              and DO NOT approach this tree <- an example of the "DO NOT" prohibition (unintentionally).
                              for then you will be of the unjust
                              But the Shaitan made them both fall from it
                              and caused them to depart from that (state) in which they were
                              and We said Get forth, some of you being the enemies of others
                              and there is for you in the earth an abode and a provision for a time
                              (235-36)

                              The Flow of Ideas
                              Other forms of Shirk
                              Shirk & the God and Ulema within ourselves
                              Shirk in the form of a very fine
                              The key to understand justly balanced
                              The Qur'anic standard for the attainment of righteousness
                              The majority will be in the hellfire, abide eternally.

                              And (as for) those
                              who reject Our communications <- the "DO NOT" prohibition
                              and turn away from them haughtily
                              these are the inmates of the fire
                              they shall abide in it
                              (<a href="http//quran.com/7/35-36">735-36</a&gt

                              Surely this is indeed what is the evident trial
                              (<a href="http//quran.com/37/106">37106</a&gt

                              Do the people think
                              that they will be left to say,
                              "We believe"
                              and they will not be tried?

                              But We have certainly tried those before them
                              and Allah will surely make evident
                              those who are truthful
                              and He will surely make evident
                              the liars

                              Or do those who do evil deeds think they can outrun Us?
                              Evil is what they judge
                              (<a href="http//quran.com/29/2-4">292-4</a&gt

                              Or do you think
                              that you will enter Paradise
                              while such has not yet come to you
                              as came to those who passed on before you?

                              They were touched by poverty
                              and hardship
                              and were shaken
                              until messenger
                              and those who believed with him said
                              "When is the help of Allah ?"
                              Unquestionably, the help of Allah is near
                              (<a href="http//quran.com/2/214">2214</a&gt

                              Can anyone know or defeat Allah's plan?

                              So leave Me and him who rejects this announcement
                              We will overtake them by degrees
                              from whence they perceive not
                              And I do bear with them
                              surely My plan is firm <- Can human beings defeat this plan?
                              (<a href="http//quran.com/68/44-45">6844-45</a&gt

                              And when they meet those who believe, they say
                              We believe
                              and when they are alone with their Shaitans, they say
                              Surely we are with you, we were only mocking <- it means intentional disobedience, the "DO NOT"
                              Allah shall pay them back their mockery Munafiqoon (disobey silently)
                              and He leaves them alone in their inordinacy Mushrikeen (disobey openly)
                              blindly wandering on
                              (<a href="http//quran.com/2/14-15">214-15</a&gt

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                                Why Allah guides the prostitute to the straight path?

                                Why Allah guides the thief to the straight path?

                                Why Allah lead astray the Ulemas?

                                What really matters to Allah?

                                What is Allah like to see from us?

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                                  Age Concept of Right/Wrong

                                  70 Being absolutely right for the level of 70 years old person "
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                                  60 Being absolutely right for the level of 60 years old person "
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                                  50 Being absolutely right for the level of 50 years old person "
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                                  40 Being absolutely right for the level of 40 years old person "
                                  http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                  30 Being absolutely right for the level of 30 years old person "
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                                  20 Being absolutely right for the level of 20 years old person "
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                                  10 Being absolutely right for the level of 10 years old person "
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                                  1 Being absolutely right for the level of 1 year old baby <-- limited by our senses, abilities etc.

                                  Similarly, this can be applied to certain life conditions, psychological backgrounds, personal traits, ethnic, educational backgrounds, and etc. These are all variables, and the overall consequences are the Sunnatullah, Absolute Justice.

                                  Therefore, does it really matter of being right or wrong?

                                  Does the above pattern of being right or wrong really matters to Allah?

                                  What about those who live 1,000 years ago, where there is no proper educational system, or where people unable to read the Qur'an? Can they survive and become a real Muslim? Can we apply the same concept of right or wrong?

                                  What is the actual standard to become a Muslim?

                                  there is no target for becoming a Muslim.

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                                  There are no fixed rules, and it can be the hardest things to achieve, or it can be the simplest things to achieve; which totally depends on the "Level of Shirk" within ourselves.

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                                    For example, how can anyone expect to be free from this Shirk?

                                    If we based on the concept of right or wrong, then no one would ever survive (without the help of Allah)...

                                    And set forth to them a parable of two men
                                    for one of them We made two gardens of grape vines
                                    and We surrounded them both with palms
                                    and in the midst of them We made cornfields

                                    Both these gardens yielded their fruits
                                    and failed not aught thereof
                                    and We caused a river to gush forth in their midst

                                    And he possessed much wealth

                                    so he said to his companion, while he disputed with him

                                    I have greater wealth than you, and am mightier in followers <- Shirk? This is what most people
                                    https//www.google.com/help/hc/images/sites_icon_arrow_up_small.gif would say. Greater wealth,
                                    And he entered his garden https//www.google.com/help/hc/images/sites_icon_arrow_up_small.gif knowledge, skills, family etc.
                                    while he was unjust to himself, He said <- On the issue of justly balanced within ourselves.
                                    I do not think that this will ever perish <- This is also what most people would say.
                                    And I do not think the hour will come i.e. not come within the next few hours, days, years etc.
                                    and even if I am returned to my Lord <- Same, and most people believe they will be in Paradise.
                                    I will most certainly find a returning place better than this Proof that he believe in Allah and the
                                    Hour will come, but not in his lifetime.
                                    His companion said to him while disputing with him

                                    Do you disbelieve in Him <- Shirk?
                                    Who created you from dust
                                    then from a small seed
                                    then He made you a perfect man?

                                    But as for me
                                    He, Allah, is my Lord
                                    and I do not associate anyone with my Lord <- Who is "anyone" in this story context? Self?

                                    (1832-4

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                                      And you become three kinds

                                      Then the companions of the right <- just
                                      what are the companions of the right?

                                      And the companions of the left <- unjust
                                      what are the companions of the left?

                                      And the forerunners, the forerunners <- justly balanced (Sunnatullah -> just + unjust)
                                      Those are the ones brought near
                                      In the Gardens of Pleasure

                                      (567-12)

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                                        In the name of Allah

                                        the Beneficent
                                        the Merciful

                                        All praise <- What for?
                                        is due to Allah <- Deen, dayn, debt, due

                                        the Lord of the Worlds <- Does human beings really witness this? How many?

                                        The Beneficent
                                        the Merciful

                                        Master of the Day of Judgment

                                        Thee do we serve <- serve comes first (obedience), only then eligible for help
                                        and Thee do we beseech for help

                                        Keep us <- Is there really a free will? Or influence on our free will?
                                        on the right path <- Who hold the key to the right path?
                                        The path of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed favors
                                        Not (the path) of those upon whom Thy wrath is brought down
                                        nor of those who go astray

                                        (11-7)

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                                          Level of
                                          Under-
                                          Level of standing Level of Impact of Level of
                                          Shirk the Qur'an Obedience Allah's tests Believers
                                          (Faith)


                                          100% 0% 0% -> Muslim -> -100 <- Faith equal to "Love Monkey"=No faith!

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                                          Proof that there is no faith... not yet.

                                          The test.

                                          Example on the standard required to attain righteousness

                                          By no means shall you attain to righteousness
                                          until you spend (benevolently)
                                          out of what you love
                                          and whatever thing you spend
                                          Allah surely knows it
                                          (392)

                                          And they ask you as to what they should spend (sadaqah)
                                          Say What you can spare
                                          Thus does Allah make clear to you the communications
                                          that you may ponder
                                          (2219)

                                          Who can sadaqa all his property for Allah?

                                          Try practicing this for 7 continuous years without failed.

                                          Do you feel worry?

                                          Hard to accept?

                                          If yes, then there is no faith.

                                          It is quite simple.

                                          The believers
                                          are only <- exclusionary principle and the definition of believers
                                          the ones who have believed in Allah and His Messenger
                                          and then doubt not
                                          but strive with their properties
                                          and their lives
                                          in the cause of Allah
                                          It is those who are the truthful.
                                          (4915)

                                          Unquestionably, the allies of Allah
                                          there will be no fear concerning them
                                          nor will they grieve
                                          (1062-64)

                                          Do the people think
                                          that they will be left to say,
                                          "We believe"
                                          and they will not be tried?

                                          There are no fixed rules, and it can be the hardest things to achieve, or it can be the simplest things to achieve; which totally depends on the "Level of Shirk" within ourselves.

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