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    muslims
    wrote on last edited by
    #276

    Peace Muslims,

    I am only asking one question.

    What English word would you replace the word "religion" with according to your understanding?

    If you do not have an answer why not just say so? Millions read the Quran translated in
    various languages, so your point is nil. Until you can come up with a better translation
    than the word "religion" it will stand. No offense intended.

    109/6 I am not calling anyone kafir, but just an example of translations.

    Sahih International For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."

    Pickthall Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.

    Yusuf Ali To you be your Way, and to me mine.

    Shakir You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.

    Muhammad Sarwar You follow your religion and I follow mine.

    Mohsin Khan "To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islamic Monotheism)."

    Arberry To you your religion, and to me my religion!'

    God bless

    peace

    Salam hawk99,

    How many times I have to answer you?

    Who cares what it means in English.

    Allah never asked me to believe in the translation.

    There is only one Qur'an, and it is in Arabic. It is not in English.

    In other words, your conclusion is irrelevant to the Deen of Islam. It is not Islam, and no real Muslim should be bothered to answer what is the true meaning of the Qur'an in the English language.

    Therefore, If you wish to believe the English Qur'an, no one is stopping you. One thing for sure, Allah only accepts Deen of Islam, and not Religion (Madhab) of Islam (385).

    And please give reasons for your conclusion (refer here).

    Peace brother.

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      hawk99
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      #277

      Peace Muslims,

      I understand, no offense intended handshake

      God bless

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        muslims
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        #278

        Peace Muslims,

        I understand, no offense intended handshake

        God bless

        Peace hawk99

        God bless handshake

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          muslims
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          #279

          I dare not call myself spiritual or materialist or a cynic or christian or atheist or pagan or hindu or buddhist or taoist or muslim or whatever, because I am all those things, at one time or another; Suelo's Blog

          This guy understand the concept of life... bravo

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            muslims
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            #280

            Objective

            The recommended method for obedience of the Qur'an is initially through mastering the ibada of fasting (days), sadaqah, reading the Qur'an or dzikr and while doing good to others.

            This is the Book (the Quran)
            whereof there is no doubt
            a guidance to those who are Al-Muttaqun <- The first condition to understand the Qur'an.
            (22) Other than Al-Muttaqun?

            Therefore, first objective = becoming Al-Muttaqun

            Method

            and basically, the objectives of Ibada are as follows

            Fast "..decreed upon you is fasting as it was decreed upon those before you
            that you may become righteous.." (2183)
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            Sadaqah "..Take from their wealth a charity by which you purify them
            and cause them increase.." (9103)
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            Hajj (or else) "..That they may witness benefits for themselves
            and mention the name of Allah.." (2228)
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            Salat "..prayer prohibits immorality and wrongdoing.." (2945)
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            Shahada Alhamdu lillahi rabbi alAAalameen

            ...

            Primary importance

            Command War zone Objectives (primary importance)
            (illusion) (reality)
            Sawm/Fast -> How -> - become righteous (ourselves)
            Sadaqah to - to purify ourselves
            Hajj (or else) perform? - witness benefits in ourselves
            Salat etc. - prohibits immorality/wrongdoing in ourselves
            Shahada - understanding of reality (ourselves)

            Requirement

            Example on the standard required to attain righteousness

            By no means shall you attain to righteousness
            until you spend (benevolently)
            out of what you love
            and whatever thing you spend
            Allah surely knows it
            (392)

            And they ask you as to what they should spend (sadaqah)
            Say What you can spare
            Thus does Allah make clear to you the communications
            that you may ponder
            (2219)

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            Sadaqah Objective (Self Improvement)

            100% (what you love) Attain to righteousness
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            90% Attain what? futility?
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            80% Attain what? futility?
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            2.5% Attain what? futility? <- Zakah

            Similarly...

            Sawm/Fast Objective (Self Improvement)
            (Level of starvation)
            100% Attain to righteousness? <- Near to death experience?
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            90% Attain what? futility?
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            80% Attain what? futility?
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            70% Attain what? futility?
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            60% Attain what? futility?
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            2.5% Attain what? futility? <- Fasting in the month of Ramadhan

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              jhonsonmustafa
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              #281

              Salam hawk99

              You still don't get it?

              Who cares what it means in English.

              Allah never asked me to believe in the translation.

              There is only one Qur'an, and it is in Arabic. It is not in English.

              If you cannot find the accurate translation for the word "deen", then refer to its true meaning in Arabic. Why you want to distort and replace it with meaning not associated with the word "deen"? (root for deen dayn = debt)

              And please give reasons for your conclusion (refer here).

              Peace brother.

              Peace Brother,

              No intention of picking up fight. You neglected 22, 178 and supporting Hadith.
              Quran is the Root in language. Its only for reference. The Quran is available in 1000+ plus languages.
              Those who wish Allah will reveal in native language.

              144
              And We did not send any messenger except in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.

              434
              And verily, it is in the Mother Language of the Book, in Our Presence, high (in dignity), full of wisdom.

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                jhonsonmustafa
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                #282

                Peace Brother Muslims,

                The Quran was ofcourse descended in Arabic (native)language on our prophet/messenger Mohammad. Please note that according to Ayats

                4458 - We have thus made it easy in your language, perhaps they may take heed.

                144 - And We have not sent any messenger except in the language of his people, so he may clarify for them. But God misguides whom He wills, and He guides whom He wills. And He is the Noble, the Wise

                16103 - And We are aware that they say "A human being is teaching him." The tongue of the one they refer to is foreign, while this is a clear Arabic tongue.

                Suppose if Prophet Mohammad was born in France, then the Quran would have descened in French (native language of Prophet Mohammad to warn people going astray or to assure heaven for people who do good deeds).

                Language is not important. But the MESSAGE is.

                Sabina

                Excellent Sister. God Bless you

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                  muslims
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #283

                  Peace Brother,

                  No intention of picking up fight. You neglected 22, 178 and supporting Hadith.
                  Quran is the Root in language. Its only for reference. The Quran is available in 1000+ plus languages.
                  Those who wish Allah will reveal in native language.

                  144
                  And We did not send any messenger except in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.

                  434
                  And verily, it is in the Mother Language of the Book, in Our Presence, high (in dignity), full of wisdom.

                  Salam jhonsonmustafa,

                  So am I, and please read and understand the issue to our discussion (refer here) before you bring any irrelevant assertion to the existing discussion.

                  Peace brother peace

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                    jhonsonmustafa
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                    #284

                    Peace Muslims,

                    I am only asking one question.

                    What English word would you replace the word "religion" with according to your understanding?

                    If you do not have an answer why not just say so? Millions read the Quran translated in
                    various languages, so your point is nil. Until you can come up with a better translation
                    than the word "religion" it will stand. No offense intended.

                    109/6 I am not calling anyone kafir, but just an example of translations.

                    Sahih International For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."

                    Pickthall Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.

                    Yusuf Ali To you be your Way, and to me mine.

                    Shakir You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.

                    Muhammad Sarwar You follow your religion and I follow mine.

                    Mohsin Khan "To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islamic Monotheism)."

                    Arberry To you your religion, and to me my religion!'

                    God bless

                    peace

                    Salam Brother,

                    Correct brother, Allah reveals Quran in their native language those who wish for straight path.

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                      muslims
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #285

                      What English word would you replace the word "religion" with according to your understanding?

                      If you do not have an answer why not just say so? Millions read the Quran translated in
                      various languages, so your point is nil. Until you can come up with a better translation
                      than the word "religion" it will stand. No offense intended.

                      Correct brother, Allah reveals Quran in their native language those who wish for straight path.

                      Salam jhonsonmustafa,

                      I believe you have misunderstood his comment.

                      Peace brother peace

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                        jhonsonmustafa
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                        #286

                        Objective

                        Method

                        Requirement

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                        Sadaqah Objective (Self Improvement)

                        100% (what you love) Attain righteousness
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                        90% Attain what? futility?
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                        80% Attain what? futility?
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                        2.5% Attain what? futility? <- Zakah

                        Similarly...

                        Sawm/Fast Objective (Self Improvement)
                        (Level of starvation)
                        100% Attain righteousness? <- Near to death experience?
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                        2.5% Attain what? futility? <- Fasting in the month of Ramadhan

                        Peace brother,

                        Could you please explain from Quran only.

                        I don't want Graphic Images. I want the words of intuition from Allah.

                        What is Ramadan ?
                        What is Fasting?
                        What is Hajj?
                        Whats is Salah?

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                          Peace brother,

                          Could you please explain from Quran only.

                          I don't want Graphic Images. I want the words of intuition from Allah.

                          What is Ramadan ?
                          What is Fasting?
                          What is Hajj?
                          Whats is Salah?

                          Salam jhonsonmustafa,

                          What am I explaining?

                          Can you please read carefully before making any comment?

                          Refer to the method section.

                          Peace brother.

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                            muslims
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                            #288

                            (refer to index)

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                            Beyond Religion -> Sunnatullah

                            Say, "O disbelievers,

                            I do not worship what you worship <- Prostrate to God Alone, accordingly, any god/religion.
                            Nor are you worshippers of what I worship <- Prostrate to Allah & Adam (Humanity), Sunnatullah.

                            Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship <- Religious People & God Alone Concept.
                            Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship <- Upright man (Muslim) - Unity, regardless of religion etc.

                            For you is your deen <- Religion - Right or wrong - Fire Element - Sectarianism.
                            and for me is my deen <- Deen - Unity - Sunnatullah - Justly balanced - Fire/Earth/Air/Water.
                            (109)

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                            Ibrahim was not a Jew <- Ibrahim has no religion. So as Muhammad, not a Jew/Christian (religion).
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                            but he was (an) upright (man) <- showing a great concern for what is right, fair and truthful way
                            a Muslim <- defined by the above ayat - an upright man - obedience and justly balanced.
                            and he was not one of the polytheists <- Concern with right/wrong in religious matters - 3030-32

                            Most surely the nearest of people to Ibrahim
                            are those
                            who followed him
                            and this Prophet
                            and those who believe
                            and Allah is the guardian of the believers
                            (367-6

                            And whoever seeks a "dnan" (&#1575 other than Islam <- Religion of Islam vs. Deen of Islam
                            it will NEVER be accepted of him
                            and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers
                            (385)

                            The Qur'an confirms other books, including hadith and other religious or man made books etc.

                            Look for similarities
                            to unite the society
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                            They are free to
                            practice their deen (way of life)
                            (unconditional freedom)
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                            MBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
                            (Fire/Air/Water/Earth) -> Confirmed by the Qur'an as..
                            http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKi*MBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
                            +--> Torah ----------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            +--> Injeel ---------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            +--> Hadith --------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            +--> Sunni ----------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            Texts
                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            +--> Shia ------------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            Texts
                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            +--> Khawarij ------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            Texts
                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            +--> Buddhism -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            Texts
                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            +--> Confucianism +-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            Texts
                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            +--> Hinduism ------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            Texts
                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            +--> Zoroastrianism +-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            Texts
                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            Qur'an +--> Scientology +-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity
                            Confirming --->| Texts |
                            Book | +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity
                            (Justly |
                            Balanced) |
                            +--> Atheism -------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            Text/Laws
                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            +--> Man made ----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            Laws
                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            +--> Company -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            Laws
                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            +--> Satanism -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            Texts
                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            +--> Mathematics -+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            Theory/Books
                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            +--> Sciences ------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            Theory/Books
                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            +--> Geography ---+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            Theory/Books
                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            +--> Economy ------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            Theory/Books
                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            +--> Accounting ---+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            Theory/Books
                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            +--> Computer -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            Theory/Books
                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            +--> Political --------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            Theory/Books
                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            +--> and so on -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                            Theory/Books
                            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                            |
                            |
                            |
                            |
                            and so on

                            For you is your deen
                            (War Zone - <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335480#msg335480">God Alone</a> - Right vs. Wrong - Sectarianism)
                            and
                            For me is my deen
                            (Human Unity - <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335753#msg335753">Prostrate to Adam</a> - All from Allah and "I Submit" to Justly Balanced)
                            (<a href="http//quran.com/109/6">1096</a&gt

                            http//s23.postimg.org/ifq2vi2rv/warzone.png

                            Indeed, prayer prohibits immorality and wrongdoing (<a href="http//quran.com/29/45">2945</a&gt

                            http//s13.postimg.org/f0sag5q85/solat.png

                            Islam
                            http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif
                            Formula
                            http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif
                            Attributes
                            http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif
                            Understanding of Sunnatullah (Just & Balance) on the following attributes ...
                            (How to blend these elements and creating the Planet of Earth - (<a href="http//quran.com/49/13">4913</a&gt)
                            http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif
                            +-----------------------------+-----------------------------+-----------------------------+
                            http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif
                            Fire Air Water Earth
                            http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif

                            Fire Air Water Earth
                            South West East North
                            Asmaullah Afaalullah Sifatullah Dzatullah
                            Hablum Minallah Hablum Minannas Wisdom Khalif
                            Qur'an Communication Knowledge Persistence
                            Law / Policy Humanism Expertise Kusyu / Humble
                            (Who is right?
                            Who is wrong?)

                            We can apply this formula in all aspects of our life

                            The destructive aspect of the fire element.

                            http//s15.postimg.org/wcikp8hwb/earth_core.jpg
                            http//s24.postimg.org/ebh5sqdth/fire.png

                            Stand up for what is right and wrong .. black and white. <- War zone - fire elements

                            The world will hate Islam.

                            Society will break apart to pieces.

                            Stand up for what is just and balance in the society.

                            It will bring harmony.

                            It will unite humanity.

                            This is Islam.

                            = Objective of Khalif -> Manager (To understand Just and Balance - To understand Sunnatullah)
                            = Manager -> To manage the Earth -> Negotiator, Mediator and Conciliator
                            = To bring Balance
                            -> Balance bring Justice
                            -> Justice bring Harmony
                            -> Harmony bring Security
                            -> Security bring Happiness
                            -> Happiness bring Love
                            -> Love bring Satisfaction
                            -> Satisfaction bring Alhamdulillah
                            -> Alhamdulillah bring Fear (of losing Allah's attention/guidance etc ..
                            as those person who are in deep love)
                            -> Fear will motivate us to become better human being -> Khalif
                            -> Khalif -> Reality
                            -> Reality -> Allah
                            = Din of Islam

                            Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah
                            is the most righteous of you <- justly balanced

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                              These words (label) may be removed from the Muslim's minds ...

                              Right Wrong

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                              Justly balanced Unjust
                              (maslahat = mudharat) (maslahat alone or mudharat alone)
                              (to all living creatures) (for any selected sects or group of peoples)

                              to humanity / living creatures

                              (regardless of religion, sects, race or ethnic origin, belief, age etc.)

                              From the above, we can see that the Qur'an teaches us how to balance and achieve justice ..

                              It is the "Ihdina assirata almustaqeem" (16); "..and you become three kinds.." (567)

                              Why it is about balance and just?

                              Because ...

                              We cannot change to what is right (just) in the fire element. -> unjust to the air, water and earth.
                              We cannot change to what is right (just) in the air element. -> unjust to the fire, water and earth.
                              We cannot change to what is right (just) in the water element. -> unjust to the fire, air and earth.
                              We cannot change to what is right (just) in the earth element. -> unjust to the fire, air and water.
                              We cannot change to what is right (just) in all these elements.
                              We cannot change what is wrong (unjust) in all these elements.

                              However, we can balance the major and minor "right (just)" in all these elements.
                              ie. right 1 + right 2 + right 3 + right 4 and so on...

                              ...

                              Can 0% or less than 50% wrong (unjust) be achieved?

                              Nope, because all these elements exist in all living creatures.

                              It is Sunnatullah, and Allah is The Just, Al-`Adl (&#1604.

                              Therefore, our real issue in life is why human are fighting each other and standing for what is right or wrong? (refer here)

                              Our real issue in life is why not stand up for human unity, based on what is just and balance?

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                                Here is a wild suggestion.

                                How to incorporate the Qur'an into any countries or laws?

                                1. Forget about Islamic labels or identities (favorite issues to the Mushrikeen - sectarianism), and do not mention or represent the "religion" of Islam. Islam is not a religion. Focus on what is prohibited in the Qur'an and deals publicly with the question of how to improve the way of life (deen) of all human beings / living creatures.

                                2. List all the "DO NOT" in the Qur'an.

                                3. Study all religious texts and list all the "DO NOT" in their texts - named it whatever you like - eg. One World Religion Act, Humanitarian Acts etc. Avoid any Islamic names or identities.

                                4. Study and master the rule in the "common laws and equity", and any other man-made laws. They cannot reject what is just to human beings, and especially, what come from the man made laws and their religious texts.

                                5. Compare the "DO NOT" lists from both the Qur'an and their religious texts.

                                6. List out all the "DO NOT" which are consistent or corroborate with the Qur'an.

                                7. List out all the rules of equity or laws which are consistent or corroborate with the Qur'an (the "DO NOT" list).

                                8. Prepare the draft bill/argument/debate to Parliament - or write books - or as a draft agreement between NGOs - or build website giving free draft agreements etc.

                                9. Enacted as laws (not necessarily named as Islamic laws - the name is not important - avoid anything Islamic).

                                The strategy can also be applied to any company or society constitution etc.

                                Important institution = NGOs related to the research of laws and humanitarian etc.

                                Peace.

                                It is preferable for the objective to be related with something not causing "mudharat" (harm) to self, others and all living creatures; and according to their faith.

                                The priority between .. "prohibition" vs. "command".

                                What is "prohibited" (prevention/protection/preservation/justly balanced to human beings) should be given priority over what is commanded by Allah (compulsion to other religions or disbelievers, raise resistance).

                                They said
                                "Will You place upon it one
                                who causes corruption therein <- mudharat
                                and sheds blood
                                while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?"
                                (230)

                                So there is no "to promote" in the objective, but "to prevent" (deen, dayn, debt, duty not to cause mudharat, duty to protect).

                                Paradise
                                |
                                Allah's Command
                                (maximum - mostly not achievable)
                                (Bonus Level - Level for Individual)
                                Compromise - Based on sincerity
                                |
                                100%
                                |
                                90%
                                |
                                80%
                                |
                                70%
                                |
                                60%
                                |
                                50%
                                |
                                40%
                                |
                                30%
                                |
                                20%
                                |
                                10%

                                0 <------------ Prohibition (Do Not) ------------> 0

                                Minimum Level for Unity in the Society (Foundation)
                                (Acceptable by all living creatures as justly balanced - Unity - Society will improve from this level)
                                No compromise
                                |
                                Hell

                                O you who have believed
                                DO NOT ASK about things
                                which if they are shown to you
                                will distress you <- Things that will cause resistance in the society. No unity! Mission failed!
                                But if you ask about them while the Qur'an is being revealed
                                they will be shown to you
                                Allah has pardoned that which is past
                                and Allah is Forgiving and Forbearing <- It doesn't matter right or wrong, Allah will forgive!
                                (5101)

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                                  For you is your deen <- Sectarianism - based on "religion" etc. - a bigot - God alone concept
                                  and for me is my deen <- Human Unity - based on "deen" - righteousness - fairness
                                  (109)

                                  Ibrahim was not a Jew <- Ibrahim has no religion, so as Muhammad. Nonsectarian.
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                                  but he was (an) upright (man) <- showing a great concern for what is right, fair and truthful way
                                  a Muslim <- Muslim = an upright man - a Muslim is defined by the above ayat
                                  and he was not one of the polytheists <- Sectarianism
                                  (367-6 Concern with right/wrong in religious matters - 3030-32

                                  Comparison (refer here)

                                  Hasty generalization <- sectarianism, religion, bigotry

                                  Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc is true for A (unjust).
                                  Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc is true for B (unjust).
                                  Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc is true for C (unjust).
                                  Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc is true for D (unjust).

                                  Therefore...

                                  Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc is true for
                                  E (way of life - deen)
                                  F (way of life - deen)
                                  G (way of life - deen), etc.

                                  and..

                                  What about that is justly balanced in the Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc ?

                                  Sectarianism, according to one definition, is bigotry, discrimination, or hatred arising from attaching importance to perceived differences between subdivisions within a group, such as between different denominations of a religion, class, regional or factions of a political movement.

                                  The ideological underpinnings of attitudes and behaviours labelled as sectarian are extraordinarily varied. Members of a religious or political group may believe that their own salvation, or the success of their particular objectives, requires aggressively seeking converts from other groups; adherents of a given faction may believe that for the achievement of their own political or religious project their internal opponents must be converted or purged.

                                  Sometimes a group that is under economic or political pressure will kill or attack members of another group which it regards as responsible for its own decline. It may also more rigidly define the definition of "orthodox" belief within its particular group or organisation, and expel or excommunicate those who do not support this newfound clarified definition of political or religious 'orthodoxy'. In other cases, dissenters from this orthodoxy will secede from the orthodox organisation and proclaim themselves as practitioners of a reformed belief system, or holders of a perceived former orthodoxy. At other times, sectarianism may be the expression of a group's nationalistic or cultural ambitions, or exploited by demagogues; Wikipedia

                                  Sectarianism is
                                  bigotry
                                  discrimination
                                  or hatred

                                  arising from
                                  attaching importance to perceived differences between subdivisions within a group
                                  such as between different denominations of
                                  a religion
                                  class
                                  regional
                                  or factions of a political movement

                                  Bigotry is

                                  the state of mind of a bigot

                                  someone who
                                  as a result of their prejudices
                                  treats other people with
                                  fear
                                  distrust
                                  hatred
                                  contempt
                                  or intolerance

                                  on the basis of a person's
                                  ethnicity
                                  religion
                                  national origin
                                  gender
                                  sexual orientation
                                  disability
                                  socioeconomic status
                                  or other characteristics

                                  A bigot is

                                  a prejudiced person
                                  who is intolerant
                                  of any opinions
                                  differing from their own

                                  or intolerant of people
                                  of different
                                  political views
                                  ethnicity
                                  race
                                  class
                                  religion
                                  profession
                                  sexuality
                                  or gender

                                  The origin of the word bigot and bigoterie (bigotry) in English dates back to at least 1598, via Middle French, and started with the sense of "religious hypocrite". This meaning still survives in Italian, in the cognate word bigotto. The exact origin of the word is unknown, but it may have come from the German bei and Gott, or the English by God; Online Etymology Dictionary; see also Nobody wants to be called a bigot

                                  Discrimination is

                                  the prejudicial
                                  and/or distinguishing treatment of an individual

                                  based on their
                                  actual or perceived membership
                                  in a certain group or category
                                  "in a way that is worse than the way people are usually treated"

                                  Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah
                                  is the most righteous of you <- justly balanced; ie. fairness vs. a bigot

                                  And whoever seeks a "dnan" (&#1575 other than Islam
                                  it will NEVER be accepted of him
                                  and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers
                                  (<a href="http//corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=3&verse=85">385</a&gt

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                                    Can a sectarian be a successor or a Khalif?

                                    Can a sectarian (a bigot) be a judge to other/all human beings?

                                    Indeed, We have revealed to you
                                    the Book in truth
                                    so you may judge between the people <- purpose of the Qur'an
                                    by that which Allah has shown you
                                    And do not be for the deceitful an advocate
                                    (4105)

                                    Indeed, Allah commands you to render trusts
                                    to whom they are due <- all human beings, including all living creatures
                                    and when you judge between people
                                    to judge with justice
                                    Excellent is that which Allah instructs you
                                    Indeed, Allah is ever Hearing and Seeing
                                    (458)

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                                      (refer to index)

                                      Whether Prophet Ibrahim and Muhammad are bigots?

                                      No, refer to (367-68).

                                      Whether the Jew, Christian and polytheists are bigots?

                                      Whether the Sunnism, Shi'ism, Quranism, Wahhabbism etc are bigots?

                                      Whether Muslim is bigotry?

                                      Muslim
                                      |
                                      |
                                      Deen
                                      (regardless of religions etc.)
                                      |
                                      |
                                      Justly balanced
                                      |

                                      A "dnan" (&#1575 other than Islam <------------- Islam? -------------> it will NEVER be accepted of him

                                      (385)
                                      |
                                      |
                                      Fallacy of Generalization
                                      (of what is justly balanced and unjust)
                                      |
                                      |
                                      Religion of Islam etc.
                                      (Madhab - God Alone Concept)
                                      |
                                      |
                                      Bigot
                                      (Sectarian)

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                                        http//s16.postimg.org/cyvakuyx1/deen.png

                                        Towards Human Unity

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335929#msg335929">Tests from Allah</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335256#msg335256">Main Issue</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335480#msg335480">What is God Alone Religion? </a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335690#msg335690">Defintion of Just and Balance (Sunnatullah)</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335855#msg335855">What is Islam?</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335472#msg335472">Prostrate to Adam</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336532#msg336532">The Common Aspects of Religions.</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335571#msg335571">Which is the right religion ?</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336528#msg336528">The destructive aspect of the fire element.</a>

                                        For you is your deen, and for me is my deen

                                        Islam is not a religion (madhab)

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335361#msg335361">Islam A Challenge to Religion</a>

                                        A comparative study of religion or madhhab

                                        Whether Deen is Religion (Madhab)?

                                        Religion and the Fallacy of Generalization

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335823#msg335823">The Quranic Concept of Salvation</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335261#msg335261">Allah will never accept Religion of Islam</a>

                                        Examle of Deen <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336008#msg336008">1</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335737#msg335737">2</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335738#msg335738">3</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335739#msg335739">4</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335740#msg335740">5</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335741#msg335741">6</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335742#msg335742">7</a>.

                                        Beyond Religion Sunnatullah

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335531#msg335531">Purpose of creation</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335579#msg335579">What is "Sirat al-Mustaqim"?</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336009#msg336009">What does Adam represent?</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335753#msg335753">Descendants of Adam.</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335266#msg335266">Who is a Muslim?</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335603#msg335603">The "DO NOT" prohibition</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605770.msg336452#msg336452">Hadith & Sects.</a> <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605770.msg336423#msg336423">Sura</a> + <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605770.msg336428#msg336428">Prohibition</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335928#msg335928">Impossible for people who i'tiqad to disobey Allah to enter Paradise.</a>

                                        Why Prophet Ibrahim and Muhammad was not a Jew or Christian?

                                        DO NOT die except as Muslims

                                        Description of a Muslim in the Qur'an

                                        A Muslim or a Bigot?

                                        Can a sectarian (a bigot) be a judge to other/all human beings?

                                        Borderline between a Muslim and a Bigot

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335476#msg335476">Muslim Job Scope</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335931#msg335931">Purpose of Life</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335891#msg335891">Alhamdu</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336009#msg336009">Allah Alone is no use for our salvation</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336010#msg336010">Duty Awareness Program (Deen)</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335950#msg335950">What is Right or Wrong?</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336077#msg336077">The Qur'an is about us.</a>

                                        What does the Qur'an teach?

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335263#msg335263">Duty To Ourselves</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335265#msg335265">Understanding The Quran</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335283#msg335283">Language of the Heart</a>

                                        Level of understanding the Qur'an

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335515#msg335515">What is Reality?</a> <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335521#msg335521">(2)</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335524#msg335524">(3)</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335788#msg335788">Qur'an is an introductory Book, Guidance or Manual.</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335810#msg335810">Signs</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335950#msg335950">Pleasure</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336130#msg336130">Dictionary of the Qur'an</a>

                                        Other forms of Shirk

                                        Shirk & the God and Ulema within ourselves

                                        Shirk in the form of a very fine

                                        The key to understand justly balanced

                                        The Qur'anic standard for the attainment of righteousness

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335472#msg335472">Philosophy of Salat</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335474#msg335474">True Solat is Jihad?</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335659#msg335659">Formula for Success</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335483#msg335483">First Step - Fire</a>

                                        Purpose of Ibada

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335476#msg335476">Formula for Unity - Negotiator, Mediator and Conciliator</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335880#msg335880">Towards Human Unity</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335750#msg335750">Unconditional Freedom</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336189#msg336189">The Flow of Ideas</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336234#msg336234">Example of Quranic Ideas</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336219#msg336219">Ideas of Just and Balance</a>

                                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336265#msg336265">When Being Wrong Is Right</a>

                                        The Matrix of Justly Balanced For Our Salvation

                                        Why the matrix?

                                        Qur'an as the Confirming Book

                                        Look for similarities to unite the society

                                        Words (label) to be removed from the mind of any Muslim

                                        How to incorporate the Qur'an into any countries or laws?

                                        Islamic Constitution

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                                          For the purpose of description and easy understanding on our current level of faith...

                                          Philosophy on the level of understanding/obedience to the Qur'an

                                          Indeed, IT IS A NOBLE QURAN
                                          In a protected Book <- Who can unlock if Allah protect its true understanding?
                                          None can grasp it
                                          except those purified (from shirk) <- The key to understand the Qur'an
                                          (<a href="http//quran.com/56/77-79">5677-79</a&gt The key to obedience (refer here and here)

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                                          Level of 30%
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                                          (Faith) 10%


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                                                100% 0% 0% -> Muslim -> -100 <- Faith equal to "Love Monkey"=No faith!
                                                (<a href="http//quran.com/49/14-17">4914-17</a&gt
                                                (<a href="http//quran.com/39/12">3912</a&gt
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                                                None dispute concerning the communications of Allah but those who disbelieve <--- Borderline
                                                (breach of contract (<a href="http//quran.com/2/27">227</a&gt) (non-muslim)
                                                (the "DO NOT" prohibition - impossible to enter paradise)
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                                                DISBELIEVER
                                                (disobedience)
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                                                Munafiqoon
                                                (disobey silently)
                                                (<a href="http//quran.com/2/8">28</a&gt
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                                                Mushrikeen
                                                (disobey openly)
                                                (<a href="http//quran.com/39/38">3938</a&gt(<a href="http//quran.com/30/30-32">3030-32</a&gt(<a href="http//quran.com/6/121">6121</a&gt(<a href="http//quran.com/6/150">6150</a&gt
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                                                True Disbeliever
                                                (26)
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                                                Prehuman ?
                                                (822)

                                          • a simple draft for easy understanding and not necessarily in order or most accurate

                                          None dispute concerning the communications of Allah but those who disbelieve
                                          (404)

                                          Such has been the course of Allah that has indeed run before
                                          and you shall not find a change in Allah's course
                                          (4823)

                                          And We said O Adam!
                                          Dwell you and your wife in the garden
                                          and eat from it a plenteous (food) wherever you wish
                                          and DO NOT approach this tree <- an example of the "DO NOT" prohibition (unintentionally).
                                          for then you will be of the unjust
                                          But the Shaitan made them both fall from it
                                          and caused them to depart from that (state) in which they were
                                          and We said Get forth, some of you being the enemies of others
                                          and there is for you in the earth an abode and a provision for a time
                                          (235-36)

                                          The Flow of Ideas
                                          Other forms of Shirk
                                          Shirk & the God and Ulema within ourselves
                                          Shirk in the form of a very fine
                                          The key to understand justly balanced
                                          The Qur'anic standard for the attainment of righteousness
                                          The majority will be in the hellfire, abide eternally.

                                          And (as for) those
                                          who reject Our communications <- the "DO NOT" prohibition
                                          and turn away from them haughtily
                                          these are the inmates of the fire
                                          they shall abide in it
                                          (<a href="http//quran.com/7/35-36">735-36</a&gt

                                          Surely this is indeed what is the evident trial
                                          (<a href="http//quran.com/37/106">37106</a&gt

                                          Do the people think
                                          that they will be left to say,
                                          "We believe"
                                          and they will not be tried?

                                          But We have certainly tried those before them
                                          and Allah will surely make evident
                                          those who are truthful
                                          and He will surely make evident
                                          the liars

                                          Or do those who do evil deeds think they can outrun Us?
                                          Evil is what they judge
                                          (<a href="http//quran.com/29/2-4">292-4</a&gt

                                          Or do you think
                                          that you will enter Paradise
                                          while such has not yet come to you
                                          as came to those who passed on before you?

                                          They were touched by poverty
                                          and hardship
                                          and were shaken
                                          until messenger
                                          and those who believed with him said
                                          "When is the help of Allah ?"
                                          Unquestionably, the help of Allah is near
                                          (<a href="http//quran.com/2/214">2214</a&gt

                                          Can anyone know or defeat Allah's plan?

                                          So leave Me and him who rejects this announcement
                                          We will overtake them by degrees
                                          from whence they perceive not
                                          And I do bear with them
                                          surely My plan is firm <- Can human beings defeat this plan?
                                          (<a href="http//quran.com/68/44-45">6844-45</a&gt

                                          And when they meet those who believe, they say
                                          We believe
                                          and when they are alone with their Shaitans, they say
                                          Surely we are with you, we were only mocking <- it means intentional disobedience, the "DO NOT"
                                          Allah shall pay them back their mockery Munafiqoon (disobey silently)
                                          and He leaves them alone in their inordinacy Mushrikeen (disobey openly)
                                          blindly wandering on
                                          (<a href="http//quran.com/2/14-15">214-15</a&gt

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