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  • M Offline
    M Offline
    muslims
    wrote on last edited by
    #285

    What English word would you replace the word "religion" with according to your understanding?

    If you do not have an answer why not just say so? Millions read the Quran translated in
    various languages, so your point is nil. Until you can come up with a better translation
    than the word "religion" it will stand. No offense intended.

    Correct brother, Allah reveals Quran in their native language those who wish for straight path.

    Salam jhonsonmustafa,

    I believe you have misunderstood his comment.

    Peace brother peace

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    • J Offline
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      jhonsonmustafa
      wrote on last edited by
      #286

      Objective

      Method

      Requirement

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      Sadaqah Objective (Self Improvement)

      100% (what you love) Attain righteousness
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      90% Attain what? futility?
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      80% Attain what? futility?
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      70% Attain what? futility?
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      60% Attain what? futility?
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      50% Attain what? futility?
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      40% Attain what? futility?
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      30% Attain what? futility?
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      20% Attain what? futility?
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      10% Attain what? futility?
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      2.5% Attain what? futility? <- Zakah

      Similarly...

      Sawm/Fast Objective (Self Improvement)
      (Level of starvation)
      100% Attain righteousness? <- Near to death experience?
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      90% Attain what? futility?
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      80% Attain what? futility?
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      70% Attain what? futility?
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      60% Attain what? futility?
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      50% Attain what? futility?
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      40% Attain what? futility?
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      30% Attain what? futility?
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      20% Attain what? futility?
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      10% Attain what? futility?
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      2.5% Attain what? futility? <- Fasting in the month of Ramadhan

      Peace brother,

      Could you please explain from Quran only.

      I don't want Graphic Images. I want the words of intuition from Allah.

      What is Ramadan ?
      What is Fasting?
      What is Hajj?
      Whats is Salah?

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      • M Offline
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        muslims
        wrote on last edited by
        #287

        Peace brother,

        Could you please explain from Quran only.

        I don't want Graphic Images. I want the words of intuition from Allah.

        What is Ramadan ?
        What is Fasting?
        What is Hajj?
        Whats is Salah?

        Salam jhonsonmustafa,

        What am I explaining?

        Can you please read carefully before making any comment?

        Refer to the method section.

        Peace brother.

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        • M Offline
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          muslims
          wrote on last edited by
          #288

          (refer to index)

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          Beyond Religion -> Sunnatullah

          Say, "O disbelievers,

          I do not worship what you worship <- Prostrate to God Alone, accordingly, any god/religion.
          Nor are you worshippers of what I worship <- Prostrate to Allah & Adam (Humanity), Sunnatullah.

          Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship <- Religious People & God Alone Concept.
          Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship <- Upright man (Muslim) - Unity, regardless of religion etc.

          For you is your deen <- Religion - Right or wrong - Fire Element - Sectarianism.
          and for me is my deen <- Deen - Unity - Sunnatullah - Justly balanced - Fire/Earth/Air/Water.
          (109)

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          Ibrahim was not a Jew <- Ibrahim has no religion. So as Muhammad, not a Jew/Christian (religion).
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          but he was (an) upright (man) <- showing a great concern for what is right, fair and truthful way
          a Muslim <- defined by the above ayat - an upright man - obedience and justly balanced.
          and he was not one of the polytheists <- Concern with right/wrong in religious matters - 3030-32

          Most surely the nearest of people to Ibrahim
          are those
          who followed him
          and this Prophet
          and those who believe
          and Allah is the guardian of the believers
          (367-6

          And whoever seeks a "dnan" (&#1575 other than Islam <- Religion of Islam vs. Deen of Islam
          it will NEVER be accepted of him
          and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers
          (385)

          The Qur'an confirms other books, including hadith and other religious or man made books etc.

          Look for similarities
          to unite the society
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          They are free to
          practice their deen (way of life)
          (unconditional freedom)
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          (Fire/Air/Water/Earth) -> Confirmed by the Qur'an as..
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          +--> Torah ----------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          +--> Injeel ---------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          +--> Hadith --------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          +--> Sunni ----------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          Texts
          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          +--> Shia ------------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          Texts
          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          +--> Khawarij ------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          Texts
          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          +--> Buddhism -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          Texts
          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          +--> Confucianism +-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          Texts
          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          +--> Hinduism ------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          Texts
          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          +--> Zoroastrianism +-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          Texts
          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          Qur'an +--> Scientology +-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity
          Confirming --->| Texts |
          Book | +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity
          (Justly |
          Balanced) |
          +--> Atheism -------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          Text/Laws
          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          +--> Man made ----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          Laws
          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          +--> Company -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          Laws
          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          +--> Satanism -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          Texts
          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          +--> Mathematics -+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          Theory/Books
          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          +--> Sciences ------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          Theory/Books
          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          +--> Geography ---+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          Theory/Books
          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          +--> Economy ------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          Theory/Books
          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          +--> Accounting ---+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          Theory/Books
          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          +--> Computer -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          Theory/Books
          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          +--> Political --------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          Theory/Books
          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          +--> and so on -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

          Theory/Books
          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

          |
          |
          |
          |
          and so on

          For you is your deen
          (War Zone - <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335480#msg335480">God Alone</a> - Right vs. Wrong - Sectarianism)
          and
          For me is my deen
          (Human Unity - <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335753#msg335753">Prostrate to Adam</a> - All from Allah and "I Submit" to Justly Balanced)
          (<a href="http//quran.com/109/6">1096</a&gt

          http//s23.postimg.org/ifq2vi2rv/warzone.png

          Indeed, prayer prohibits immorality and wrongdoing (<a href="http//quran.com/29/45">2945</a&gt

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          Islam
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          Formula
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          Attributes
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          Understanding of Sunnatullah (Just & Balance) on the following attributes ...
          (How to blend these elements and creating the Planet of Earth - (<a href="http//quran.com/49/13">4913</a&gt)
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          +-----------------------------+-----------------------------+-----------------------------+
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          Fire Air Water Earth
          http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif

          Fire Air Water Earth
          South West East North
          Asmaullah Afaalullah Sifatullah Dzatullah
          Hablum Minallah Hablum Minannas Wisdom Khalif
          Qur'an Communication Knowledge Persistence
          Law / Policy Humanism Expertise Kusyu / Humble
          (Who is right?
          Who is wrong?)

          We can apply this formula in all aspects of our life

          The destructive aspect of the fire element.

          http//s15.postimg.org/wcikp8hwb/earth_core.jpg
          http//s24.postimg.org/ebh5sqdth/fire.png

          Stand up for what is right and wrong .. black and white. <- War zone - fire elements

          The world will hate Islam.

          Society will break apart to pieces.

          Stand up for what is just and balance in the society.

          It will bring harmony.

          It will unite humanity.

          This is Islam.

          = Objective of Khalif -> Manager (To understand Just and Balance - To understand Sunnatullah)
          = Manager -> To manage the Earth -> Negotiator, Mediator and Conciliator
          = To bring Balance
          -> Balance bring Justice
          -> Justice bring Harmony
          -> Harmony bring Security
          -> Security bring Happiness
          -> Happiness bring Love
          -> Love bring Satisfaction
          -> Satisfaction bring Alhamdulillah
          -> Alhamdulillah bring Fear (of losing Allah's attention/guidance etc ..
          as those person who are in deep love)
          -> Fear will motivate us to become better human being -> Khalif
          -> Khalif -> Reality
          -> Reality -> Allah
          = Din of Islam

          Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah
          is the most righteous of you <- justly balanced

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          • M Offline
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            muslims
            wrote on last edited by
            #289

            These words (label) may be removed from the Muslim's minds ...

            Right Wrong

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            Justly balanced Unjust
            (maslahat = mudharat) (maslahat alone or mudharat alone)
            (to all living creatures) (for any selected sects or group of peoples)

            to humanity / living creatures

            (regardless of religion, sects, race or ethnic origin, belief, age etc.)

            From the above, we can see that the Qur'an teaches us how to balance and achieve justice ..

            It is the "Ihdina assirata almustaqeem" (16); "..and you become three kinds.." (567)

            Why it is about balance and just?

            Because ...

            We cannot change to what is right (just) in the fire element. -> unjust to the air, water and earth.
            We cannot change to what is right (just) in the air element. -> unjust to the fire, water and earth.
            We cannot change to what is right (just) in the water element. -> unjust to the fire, air and earth.
            We cannot change to what is right (just) in the earth element. -> unjust to the fire, air and water.
            We cannot change to what is right (just) in all these elements.
            We cannot change what is wrong (unjust) in all these elements.

            However, we can balance the major and minor "right (just)" in all these elements.
            ie. right 1 + right 2 + right 3 + right 4 and so on...

            ...

            Can 0% or less than 50% wrong (unjust) be achieved?

            Nope, because all these elements exist in all living creatures.

            It is Sunnatullah, and Allah is The Just, Al-`Adl (&#1604.

            Therefore, our real issue in life is why human are fighting each other and standing for what is right or wrong? (refer here)

            Our real issue in life is why not stand up for human unity, based on what is just and balance?

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            • M Offline
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              muslims
              wrote on last edited by
              #290

              Here is a wild suggestion.

              How to incorporate the Qur'an into any countries or laws?

              1. Forget about Islamic labels or identities (favorite issues to the Mushrikeen - sectarianism), and do not mention or represent the "religion" of Islam. Islam is not a religion. Focus on what is prohibited in the Qur'an and deals publicly with the question of how to improve the way of life (deen) of all human beings / living creatures.

              2. List all the "DO NOT" in the Qur'an.

              3. Study all religious texts and list all the "DO NOT" in their texts - named it whatever you like - eg. One World Religion Act, Humanitarian Acts etc. Avoid any Islamic names or identities.

              4. Study and master the rule in the "common laws and equity", and any other man-made laws. They cannot reject what is just to human beings, and especially, what come from the man made laws and their religious texts.

              5. Compare the "DO NOT" lists from both the Qur'an and their religious texts.

              6. List out all the "DO NOT" which are consistent or corroborate with the Qur'an.

              7. List out all the rules of equity or laws which are consistent or corroborate with the Qur'an (the "DO NOT" list).

              8. Prepare the draft bill/argument/debate to Parliament - or write books - or as a draft agreement between NGOs - or build website giving free draft agreements etc.

              9. Enacted as laws (not necessarily named as Islamic laws - the name is not important - avoid anything Islamic).

              The strategy can also be applied to any company or society constitution etc.

              Important institution = NGOs related to the research of laws and humanitarian etc.

              Peace.

              It is preferable for the objective to be related with something not causing "mudharat" (harm) to self, others and all living creatures; and according to their faith.

              The priority between .. "prohibition" vs. "command".

              What is "prohibited" (prevention/protection/preservation/justly balanced to human beings) should be given priority over what is commanded by Allah (compulsion to other religions or disbelievers, raise resistance).

              They said
              "Will You place upon it one
              who causes corruption therein <- mudharat
              and sheds blood
              while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?"
              (230)

              So there is no "to promote" in the objective, but "to prevent" (deen, dayn, debt, duty not to cause mudharat, duty to protect).

              Paradise
              |
              Allah's Command
              (maximum - mostly not achievable)
              (Bonus Level - Level for Individual)
              Compromise - Based on sincerity
              |
              100%
              |
              90%
              |
              80%
              |
              70%
              |
              60%
              |
              50%
              |
              40%
              |
              30%
              |
              20%
              |
              10%

              0 <------------ Prohibition (Do Not) ------------> 0

              Minimum Level for Unity in the Society (Foundation)
              (Acceptable by all living creatures as justly balanced - Unity - Society will improve from this level)
              No compromise
              |
              Hell

              O you who have believed
              DO NOT ASK about things
              which if they are shown to you
              will distress you <- Things that will cause resistance in the society. No unity! Mission failed!
              But if you ask about them while the Qur'an is being revealed
              they will be shown to you
              Allah has pardoned that which is past
              and Allah is Forgiving and Forbearing <- It doesn't matter right or wrong, Allah will forgive!
              (5101)

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                muslims
                wrote on last edited by
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                For you is your deen <- Sectarianism - based on "religion" etc. - a bigot - God alone concept
                and for me is my deen <- Human Unity - based on "deen" - righteousness - fairness
                (109)

                Ibrahim was not a Jew <- Ibrahim has no religion, so as Muhammad. Nonsectarian.
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                but he was (an) upright (man) <- showing a great concern for what is right, fair and truthful way
                a Muslim <- Muslim = an upright man - a Muslim is defined by the above ayat
                and he was not one of the polytheists <- Sectarianism
                (367-6 Concern with right/wrong in religious matters - 3030-32

                Comparison (refer here)

                Hasty generalization <- sectarianism, religion, bigotry

                Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc is true for A (unjust).
                Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc is true for B (unjust).
                Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc is true for C (unjust).
                Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc is true for D (unjust).

                Therefore...

                Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc is true for
                E (way of life - deen)
                F (way of life - deen)
                G (way of life - deen), etc.

                and..

                What about that is justly balanced in the Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc ?

                Sectarianism, according to one definition, is bigotry, discrimination, or hatred arising from attaching importance to perceived differences between subdivisions within a group, such as between different denominations of a religion, class, regional or factions of a political movement.

                The ideological underpinnings of attitudes and behaviours labelled as sectarian are extraordinarily varied. Members of a religious or political group may believe that their own salvation, or the success of their particular objectives, requires aggressively seeking converts from other groups; adherents of a given faction may believe that for the achievement of their own political or religious project their internal opponents must be converted or purged.

                Sometimes a group that is under economic or political pressure will kill or attack members of another group which it regards as responsible for its own decline. It may also more rigidly define the definition of "orthodox" belief within its particular group or organisation, and expel or excommunicate those who do not support this newfound clarified definition of political or religious 'orthodoxy'. In other cases, dissenters from this orthodoxy will secede from the orthodox organisation and proclaim themselves as practitioners of a reformed belief system, or holders of a perceived former orthodoxy. At other times, sectarianism may be the expression of a group's nationalistic or cultural ambitions, or exploited by demagogues; Wikipedia

                Sectarianism is
                bigotry
                discrimination
                or hatred

                arising from
                attaching importance to perceived differences between subdivisions within a group
                such as between different denominations of
                a religion
                class
                regional
                or factions of a political movement

                Bigotry is

                the state of mind of a bigot

                someone who
                as a result of their prejudices
                treats other people with
                fear
                distrust
                hatred
                contempt
                or intolerance

                on the basis of a person's
                ethnicity
                religion
                national origin
                gender
                sexual orientation
                disability
                socioeconomic status
                or other characteristics

                A bigot is

                a prejudiced person
                who is intolerant
                of any opinions
                differing from their own

                or intolerant of people
                of different
                political views
                ethnicity
                race
                class
                religion
                profession
                sexuality
                or gender

                The origin of the word bigot and bigoterie (bigotry) in English dates back to at least 1598, via Middle French, and started with the sense of "religious hypocrite". This meaning still survives in Italian, in the cognate word bigotto. The exact origin of the word is unknown, but it may have come from the German bei and Gott, or the English by God; Online Etymology Dictionary; see also Nobody wants to be called a bigot

                Discrimination is

                the prejudicial
                and/or distinguishing treatment of an individual

                based on their
                actual or perceived membership
                in a certain group or category
                "in a way that is worse than the way people are usually treated"

                Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah
                is the most righteous of you <- justly balanced; ie. fairness vs. a bigot

                And whoever seeks a "dnan" (&#1575 other than Islam
                it will NEVER be accepted of him
                and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers
                (<a href="http//corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=3&verse=85">385</a&gt

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                  Can a sectarian be a successor or a Khalif?

                  Can a sectarian (a bigot) be a judge to other/all human beings?

                  Indeed, We have revealed to you
                  the Book in truth
                  so you may judge between the people <- purpose of the Qur'an
                  by that which Allah has shown you
                  And do not be for the deceitful an advocate
                  (4105)

                  Indeed, Allah commands you to render trusts
                  to whom they are due <- all human beings, including all living creatures
                  and when you judge between people
                  to judge with justice
                  Excellent is that which Allah instructs you
                  Indeed, Allah is ever Hearing and Seeing
                  (458)

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                    (refer to index)

                    Whether Prophet Ibrahim and Muhammad are bigots?

                    No, refer to (367-68).

                    Whether the Jew, Christian and polytheists are bigots?

                    Whether the Sunnism, Shi'ism, Quranism, Wahhabbism etc are bigots?

                    Whether Muslim is bigotry?

                    Muslim
                    |
                    |
                    Deen
                    (regardless of religions etc.)
                    |
                    |
                    Justly balanced
                    |

                    A "dnan" (&#1575 other than Islam <------------- Islam? -------------> it will NEVER be accepted of him

                    (385)
                    |
                    |
                    Fallacy of Generalization
                    (of what is justly balanced and unjust)
                    |
                    |
                    Religion of Islam etc.
                    (Madhab - God Alone Concept)
                    |
                    |
                    Bigot
                    (Sectarian)

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                      http//s16.postimg.org/cyvakuyx1/deen.png

                      Towards Human Unity

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335929#msg335929">Tests from Allah</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335256#msg335256">Main Issue</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335480#msg335480">What is God Alone Religion? </a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335690#msg335690">Defintion of Just and Balance (Sunnatullah)</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335855#msg335855">What is Islam?</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335472#msg335472">Prostrate to Adam</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336532#msg336532">The Common Aspects of Religions.</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335571#msg335571">Which is the right religion ?</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336528#msg336528">The destructive aspect of the fire element.</a>

                      For you is your deen, and for me is my deen

                      Islam is not a religion (madhab)

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335361#msg335361">Islam A Challenge to Religion</a>

                      A comparative study of religion or madhhab

                      Whether Deen is Religion (Madhab)?

                      Religion and the Fallacy of Generalization

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335823#msg335823">The Quranic Concept of Salvation</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335261#msg335261">Allah will never accept Religion of Islam</a>

                      Examle of Deen <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336008#msg336008">1</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335737#msg335737">2</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335738#msg335738">3</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335739#msg335739">4</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335740#msg335740">5</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335741#msg335741">6</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335742#msg335742">7</a>.

                      Beyond Religion Sunnatullah

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335531#msg335531">Purpose of creation</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335579#msg335579">What is "Sirat al-Mustaqim"?</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336009#msg336009">What does Adam represent?</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335753#msg335753">Descendants of Adam.</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335266#msg335266">Who is a Muslim?</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335603#msg335603">The "DO NOT" prohibition</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605770.msg336452#msg336452">Hadith & Sects.</a> <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605770.msg336423#msg336423">Sura</a> + <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605770.msg336428#msg336428">Prohibition</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335928#msg335928">Impossible for people who i'tiqad to disobey Allah to enter Paradise.</a>

                      Why Prophet Ibrahim and Muhammad was not a Jew or Christian?

                      DO NOT die except as Muslims

                      Description of a Muslim in the Qur'an

                      A Muslim or a Bigot?

                      Can a sectarian (a bigot) be a judge to other/all human beings?

                      Borderline between a Muslim and a Bigot

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335476#msg335476">Muslim Job Scope</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335931#msg335931">Purpose of Life</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335891#msg335891">Alhamdu</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336009#msg336009">Allah Alone is no use for our salvation</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336010#msg336010">Duty Awareness Program (Deen)</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335950#msg335950">What is Right or Wrong?</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336077#msg336077">The Qur'an is about us.</a>

                      What does the Qur'an teach?

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335263#msg335263">Duty To Ourselves</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335265#msg335265">Understanding The Quran</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335283#msg335283">Language of the Heart</a>

                      Level of understanding the Qur'an

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335515#msg335515">What is Reality?</a> <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335521#msg335521">(2)</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335524#msg335524">(3)</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335788#msg335788">Qur'an is an introductory Book, Guidance or Manual.</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335810#msg335810">Signs</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335950#msg335950">Pleasure</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336130#msg336130">Dictionary of the Qur'an</a>

                      Other forms of Shirk

                      Shirk & the God and Ulema within ourselves

                      Shirk in the form of a very fine

                      The key to understand justly balanced

                      The Qur'anic standard for the attainment of righteousness

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335472#msg335472">Philosophy of Salat</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335474#msg335474">True Solat is Jihad?</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335659#msg335659">Formula for Success</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335483#msg335483">First Step - Fire</a>

                      Purpose of Ibada

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335476#msg335476">Formula for Unity - Negotiator, Mediator and Conciliator</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335880#msg335880">Towards Human Unity</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335750#msg335750">Unconditional Freedom</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336189#msg336189">The Flow of Ideas</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336234#msg336234">Example of Quranic Ideas</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336219#msg336219">Ideas of Just and Balance</a>

                      <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336265#msg336265">When Being Wrong Is Right</a>

                      The Matrix of Justly Balanced For Our Salvation

                      Why the matrix?

                      Qur'an as the Confirming Book

                      Look for similarities to unite the society

                      Words (label) to be removed from the mind of any Muslim

                      How to incorporate the Qur'an into any countries or laws?

                      Islamic Constitution

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                        For the purpose of description and easy understanding on our current level of faith...

                        Philosophy on the level of understanding/obedience to the Qur'an

                        Indeed, IT IS A NOBLE QURAN
                        In a protected Book <- Who can unlock if Allah protect its true understanding?
                        None can grasp it
                        except those purified (from shirk) <- The key to understand the Qur'an
                        (<a href="http//quran.com/56/77-79">5677-79</a&gt The key to obedience (refer here and here)

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                              None dispute concerning the communications of Allah but those who disbelieve <--- Borderline
                              (breach of contract (<a href="http//quran.com/2/27">227</a&gt) (non-muslim)
                              (the "DO NOT" prohibition - impossible to enter paradise)
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                              DISBELIEVER
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                              Munafiqoon
                              (disobey silently)
                              (<a href="http//quran.com/2/8">28</a&gt
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                              Mushrikeen
                              (disobey openly)
                              (<a href="http//quran.com/39/38">3938</a&gt(<a href="http//quran.com/30/30-32">3030-32</a&gt(<a href="http//quran.com/6/121">6121</a&gt(<a href="http//quran.com/6/150">6150</a&gt
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                              True Disbeliever
                              (26)
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                              Prehuman ?
                              (822)

                        • a simple draft for easy understanding and not necessarily in order or most accurate

                        None dispute concerning the communications of Allah but those who disbelieve
                        (404)

                        Such has been the course of Allah that has indeed run before
                        and you shall not find a change in Allah's course
                        (4823)

                        And We said O Adam!
                        Dwell you and your wife in the garden
                        and eat from it a plenteous (food) wherever you wish
                        and DO NOT approach this tree <- an example of the "DO NOT" prohibition (unintentionally).
                        for then you will be of the unjust
                        But the Shaitan made them both fall from it
                        and caused them to depart from that (state) in which they were
                        and We said Get forth, some of you being the enemies of others
                        and there is for you in the earth an abode and a provision for a time
                        (235-36)

                        The Flow of Ideas
                        Other forms of Shirk
                        Shirk & the God and Ulema within ourselves
                        Shirk in the form of a very fine
                        The key to understand justly balanced
                        The Qur'anic standard for the attainment of righteousness
                        The majority will be in the hellfire, abide eternally.

                        And (as for) those
                        who reject Our communications <- the "DO NOT" prohibition
                        and turn away from them haughtily
                        these are the inmates of the fire
                        they shall abide in it
                        (<a href="http//quran.com/7/35-36">735-36</a&gt

                        Surely this is indeed what is the evident trial
                        (<a href="http//quran.com/37/106">37106</a&gt

                        Do the people think
                        that they will be left to say,
                        "We believe"
                        and they will not be tried?

                        But We have certainly tried those before them
                        and Allah will surely make evident
                        those who are truthful
                        and He will surely make evident
                        the liars

                        Or do those who do evil deeds think they can outrun Us?
                        Evil is what they judge
                        (<a href="http//quran.com/29/2-4">292-4</a&gt

                        Or do you think
                        that you will enter Paradise
                        while such has not yet come to you
                        as came to those who passed on before you?

                        They were touched by poverty
                        and hardship
                        and were shaken
                        until messenger
                        and those who believed with him said
                        "When is the help of Allah ?"
                        Unquestionably, the help of Allah is near
                        (<a href="http//quran.com/2/214">2214</a&gt

                        Can anyone know or defeat Allah's plan?

                        So leave Me and him who rejects this announcement
                        We will overtake them by degrees
                        from whence they perceive not
                        And I do bear with them
                        surely My plan is firm <- Can human beings defeat this plan?
                        (<a href="http//quran.com/68/44-45">6844-45</a&gt

                        And when they meet those who believe, they say
                        We believe
                        and when they are alone with their Shaitans, they say
                        Surely we are with you, we were only mocking <- it means intentional disobedience, the "DO NOT"
                        Allah shall pay them back their mockery Munafiqoon (disobey silently)
                        and He leaves them alone in their inordinacy Mushrikeen (disobey openly)
                        blindly wandering on
                        (<a href="http//quran.com/2/14-15">214-15</a&gt

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                          Why Allah guides the prostitute to the straight path?

                          Why Allah guides the thief to the straight path?

                          Why Allah lead astray the Ulemas?

                          What really matters to Allah?

                          What is Allah like to see from us?

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                            Age Concept of Right/Wrong

                            70 Being absolutely right for the level of 70 years old person "
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                            60 Being absolutely right for the level of 60 years old person "
                            http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                            50 Being absolutely right for the level of 50 years old person "
                            http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                            40 Being absolutely right for the level of 40 years old person "
                            http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                            30 Being absolutely right for the level of 30 years old person "
                            http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                            20 Being absolutely right for the level of 20 years old person "
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                            10 Being absolutely right for the level of 10 years old person "
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                            1 Being absolutely right for the level of 1 year old baby <-- limited by our senses, abilities etc.

                            Similarly, this can be applied to certain life conditions, psychological backgrounds, personal traits, ethnic, educational backgrounds, and etc. These are all variables, and the overall consequences are the Sunnatullah, Absolute Justice.

                            Therefore, does it really matter of being right or wrong?

                            Does the above pattern of being right or wrong really matters to Allah?

                            What about those who live 1,000 years ago, where there is no proper educational system, or where people unable to read the Qur'an? Can they survive and become a real Muslim? Can we apply the same concept of right or wrong?

                            What is the actual standard to become a Muslim?

                            there is no target for becoming a Muslim.

                            http//s14.postimg.org/tp4not4vl/glasses.png

                            There are no fixed rules, and it can be the hardest things to achieve, or it can be the simplest things to achieve; which totally depends on the "Level of Shirk" within ourselves.

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                              For example, how can anyone expect to be free from this Shirk?

                              If we based on the concept of right or wrong, then no one would ever survive (without the help of Allah)...

                              And set forth to them a parable of two men
                              for one of them We made two gardens of grape vines
                              and We surrounded them both with palms
                              and in the midst of them We made cornfields

                              Both these gardens yielded their fruits
                              and failed not aught thereof
                              and We caused a river to gush forth in their midst

                              And he possessed much wealth

                              so he said to his companion, while he disputed with him

                              I have greater wealth than you, and am mightier in followers <- Shirk? This is what most people
                              https//www.google.com/help/hc/images/sites_icon_arrow_up_small.gif would say. Greater wealth,
                              And he entered his garden https//www.google.com/help/hc/images/sites_icon_arrow_up_small.gif knowledge, skills, family etc.
                              while he was unjust to himself, He said <- On the issue of justly balanced within ourselves.
                              I do not think that this will ever perish <- This is also what most people would say.
                              And I do not think the hour will come i.e. not come within the next few hours, days, years etc.
                              and even if I am returned to my Lord <- Same, and most people believe they will be in Paradise.
                              I will most certainly find a returning place better than this Proof that he believe in Allah and the
                              Hour will come, but not in his lifetime.
                              His companion said to him while disputing with him

                              Do you disbelieve in Him <- Shirk?
                              Who created you from dust
                              then from a small seed
                              then He made you a perfect man?

                              But as for me
                              He, Allah, is my Lord
                              and I do not associate anyone with my Lord <- Who is "anyone" in this story context? Self?

                              (1832-4

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                                And you become three kinds

                                Then the companions of the right <- just
                                what are the companions of the right?

                                And the companions of the left <- unjust
                                what are the companions of the left?

                                And the forerunners, the forerunners <- justly balanced (Sunnatullah -> just + unjust)
                                Those are the ones brought near
                                In the Gardens of Pleasure

                                (567-12)

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                                  In the name of Allah

                                  the Beneficent
                                  the Merciful

                                  All praise <- What for?
                                  is due to Allah <- Deen, dayn, debt, due

                                  the Lord of the Worlds <- Does human beings really witness this? How many?

                                  The Beneficent
                                  the Merciful

                                  Master of the Day of Judgment

                                  Thee do we serve <- serve comes first (obedience), only then eligible for help
                                  and Thee do we beseech for help

                                  Keep us <- Is there really a free will? Or influence on our free will?
                                  on the right path <- Who hold the key to the right path?
                                  The path of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed favors
                                  Not (the path) of those upon whom Thy wrath is brought down
                                  nor of those who go astray

                                  (11-7)

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                                    Level of
                                    Under-
                                    Level of standing Level of Impact of Level of
                                    Shirk the Qur'an Obedience Allah's tests Believers
                                    (Faith)


                                    100% 0% 0% -> Muslim -> -100 <- Faith equal to "Love Monkey"=No faith!

                                    http//s22.postimg.org/zaua8dhr1/monkey.png

                                    Proof that there is no faith... not yet.

                                    The test.

                                    Example on the standard required to attain righteousness

                                    By no means shall you attain to righteousness
                                    until you spend (benevolently)
                                    out of what you love
                                    and whatever thing you spend
                                    Allah surely knows it
                                    (392)

                                    And they ask you as to what they should spend (sadaqah)
                                    Say What you can spare
                                    Thus does Allah make clear to you the communications
                                    that you may ponder
                                    (2219)

                                    Who can sadaqa all his property for Allah?

                                    Try practicing this for 7 continuous years without failed.

                                    Do you feel worry?

                                    Hard to accept?

                                    If yes, then there is no faith.

                                    It is quite simple.

                                    The believers
                                    are only <- exclusionary principle and the definition of believers
                                    the ones who have believed in Allah and His Messenger
                                    and then doubt not
                                    but strive with their properties
                                    and their lives
                                    in the cause of Allah
                                    It is those who are the truthful.
                                    (4915)

                                    Unquestionably, the allies of Allah
                                    there will be no fear concerning them
                                    nor will they grieve
                                    (1062-64)

                                    Do the people think
                                    that they will be left to say,
                                    "We believe"
                                    and they will not be tried?

                                    There are no fixed rules, and it can be the hardest things to achieve, or it can be the simplest things to achieve; which totally depends on the "Level of Shirk" within ourselves.

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                                      there is no target for becoming a Muslim.

                                      What really matters to Allah?

                                      What is Allah like to see from us?

                                      The struggling and going is the goal, and it doesn't matter where we start (or end), as long as we start somewhere and keep on improving our life and strengthening our faith.

                                      The actual requirement in the Qur'an is for human beings to learn, understand, and reform continuously for the better (istiqamah - changes from within ourselves comes first - roots of a tree).

                                      It is the process of understanding that matter, not the end results (comparison - how can one expect to be free from shirk within a short period of time? Impossible!). Therefore it doesn't matter or less relevant to Islam if peoples wear Hijab or not, since it is not the real issue in Islam. In fact, it is the most irrelevant issue to the society (it is personal issue - 5105).

                                      Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah
                                      are the deaf and dumb
                                      who do not use reason <- The importance of reason, and not becoming a robot (blind follower)
                                      (822) (trees without roots - how long can it hold straight on the ground?)

                                      And before it was the scripture of Moses
                                      to lead and as a mercy

                                      And this is a confirming Book
                                      in an Arabic tongue
                                      to warn those who have wronged
                                      and as good tidings to the doers of good <- Is this the reality of our life? Is it true? If not, why?
                                      Indeed, those who have said
                                      "Our Lord is Allah"
                                      and then remained on a right course
                                      there will be no fear concerning them
                                      nor will they grieve
                                      (4612-13)

                                      Do you not see
                                      that ships sail through the sea
                                      by the favor of Allah
                                      that He may show you of His signs?
                                      Indeed in that are signs
                                      for everyone patient <- the standard or main requirements, patient and grateful
                                      and grateful <- Alhamdu
                                      (3131)

                                      Indeed, Allah is with those
                                      who fear Him
                                      and those who are doers of good
                                      (16128)

                                      Those who believe
                                      and do righteous good deeds

                                      there is no sin on them
                                      for what they ate

                                      if they fear Allah
                                      and believe
                                      and do righteous good deeds

                                      and again
                                      fear Allah
                                      and believe

                                      and once again
                                      fear Allah
                                      and do good deeds

                                      with Ihsan (perfection)

                                      And Allah loves the good-doers
                                      (593)

                                      Except for those who repent
                                      correct themselves
                                      hold fast to Allah
                                      and are sincere in their deen for Allah <- requires understanding
                                      for those will be with the believers
                                      And Allah is going to give the believers a great reward
                                      (4146)

                                      There is not upon the weak
                                      or upon the ill
                                      or upon those who do not find anything to spend any discomfort
                                      when they are sincere
                                      to Allah and His Messenger
                                      There is not upon the doers of good any cause
                                      And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful
                                      (991)

                                      And cause not corruption upon the earth
                                      after its reformation
                                      And invoke Him in fear and aspiration
                                      Indeed, the mercy of Allah
                                      is near to the doers of good
                                      (756)

                                      Indeed, Allah does not allow to be lost the reward
                                      of the doers of good
                                      (9120)

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                                        +---- Controlled by Allah ----+
                                        | |
                                        | |
                                        +------- Favorite topics ------+
                                        | for religious people |
                                        | |
                                        Irrelevant Irrelevant
                                        to human to human
                                        (war zone) (war zone)
                                        | |
                                        | |
                                        | |
                                        | Freewill |
                                        | (Qur'an) |
                                        | (Sunnatullah) |
                                        | (Justly Balanced) |
                                        | | |
                                        | | |
                                        | Level of |
                                        | Alhamdu |
                                        | | |
                                        | | |
                                        Wrong |<----- 100% ----->| Right
                                        Evil | Good
                                        Unlucky 90% Lucky
                                        Ugly | Pretty
                                        Poor 80% Rich
                                        Etc. | Etc.
                                        ^ 70% ^
                                        | | |
                                        | 60% |
                                        | | |
                                        | 50% |
                                        | | |
                                        | 40% |
                                        | | |
                                        | 30% |
                                        | | |
                                        | 20% |
                                        | | |
                                        | 10% |
                                        | | |
                                        | 0% |
                                        | ^ |
                                        | | |
                                        | | |
                                        | (3131) |
                                        | patient (doers of good) |
                                        +------------- Grateful -------------+
                                        | Alhamdu |
                                        | ^ |
                                        Takes ^ Takes
                                        time | time
                                        ^ | ^
                                        | | |
                                        | Progressive |
                                        | | |

                                        • <------- Understanding ------>+
                                          |
                                          |
                                          Depends on the Level of Shirk
                                          |
                                          Those with "one heart" (no heart) will never commit Shirk
                                          Shirk or Faith requires "the right elements of" Iman and Amal to be presence
                                          Therefore
                                          Condition = Iman + Amal = Not Shirk/Faith
                                          Similarly = Iman + Amal = Not Shirk/Faith
                                          Iman + Amal = Shirk/Faith
                                          |
                                          And rely on Allah
                                          and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.
                                          Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior.
                                          (333-4)

                                        The struggling and going is the goal, and it doesn't matter where we start (or end), as long as we start somewhere and keep on improving our life and strengthening our faith.

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                                          Some example on better way to give everything in the path of Allah

                                          By no means shall you attain to righteousness
                                          until you spend (benevolently)
                                          out of what you love

                                          |
                                          |
                                          Duty
                                          |
                                          |
                                          Realisation and Fulfillment of Deen
                                          |
                                          |
                                          +----------------------+---------------------------------------+
                                          Self Family Society
                                          | | |
                                          | | +--------------------------+
                                          Realization of <-+ Charitable Business/Profesionalism
                                          Deen and Duty (Services and improvement

                                          of the society)

                                          Limit
                                          |
                                          |
                                          And they ask you as to what they should spend (sadaqah)
                                          Say What you can spare
                                          Thus does Allah make clear to you the communications
                                          that you may ponder
                                          (2219)

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