Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Users
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Free Minds Forum Icon
  1. Home
  2. General Issues / Questions
  3. General Issues / Questions
  4. What is Islam?

What is Islam?

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General Issues / Questions
615 Posts 36 Posters 66.9k Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • J Offline
    J Offline
    jhonsonmustafa
    wrote on last edited by
    #284

    Peace Muslims,

    I am only asking one question.

    What English word would you replace the word "religion" with according to your understanding?

    If you do not have an answer why not just say so? Millions read the Quran translated in
    various languages, so your point is nil. Until you can come up with a better translation
    than the word "religion" it will stand. No offense intended.

    109/6 I am not calling anyone kafir, but just an example of translations.

    Sahih International For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."

    Pickthall Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.

    Yusuf Ali To you be your Way, and to me mine.

    Shakir You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.

    Muhammad Sarwar You follow your religion and I follow mine.

    Mohsin Khan "To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islamic Monotheism)."

    Arberry To you your religion, and to me my religion!'

    God bless

    peace

    Salam Brother,

    Correct brother, Allah reveals Quran in their native language those who wish for straight path.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • M Offline
      M Offline
      muslims
      wrote on last edited by
      #285

      What English word would you replace the word "religion" with according to your understanding?

      If you do not have an answer why not just say so? Millions read the Quran translated in
      various languages, so your point is nil. Until you can come up with a better translation
      than the word "religion" it will stand. No offense intended.

      Correct brother, Allah reveals Quran in their native language those who wish for straight path.

      Salam jhonsonmustafa,

      I believe you have misunderstood his comment.

      Peace brother peace

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • J Offline
        J Offline
        jhonsonmustafa
        wrote on last edited by
        #286

        Objective

        Method

        Requirement

        http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif

        Sadaqah Objective (Self Improvement)

        100% (what you love) Attain righteousness
        http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
        90% Attain what? futility?
        http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
        80% Attain what? futility?
        http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
        70% Attain what? futility?
        http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
        60% Attain what? futility?
        http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
        50% Attain what? futility?
        http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
        40% Attain what? futility?
        http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
        30% Attain what? futility?
        http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
        20% Attain what? futility?
        http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
        10% Attain what? futility?
        http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
        2.5% Attain what? futility? <- Zakah

        Similarly...

        Sawm/Fast Objective (Self Improvement)
        (Level of starvation)
        100% Attain righteousness? <- Near to death experience?
        http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
        90% Attain what? futility?
        http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
        80% Attain what? futility?
        http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
        70% Attain what? futility?
        http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
        60% Attain what? futility?
        http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
        50% Attain what? futility?
        http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
        40% Attain what? futility?
        http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
        30% Attain what? futility?
        http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
        20% Attain what? futility?
        http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
        10% Attain what? futility?
        http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
        2.5% Attain what? futility? <- Fasting in the month of Ramadhan

        Peace brother,

        Could you please explain from Quran only.

        I don't want Graphic Images. I want the words of intuition from Allah.

        What is Ramadan ?
        What is Fasting?
        What is Hajj?
        Whats is Salah?

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • M Offline
          M Offline
          muslims
          wrote on last edited by
          #287

          Peace brother,

          Could you please explain from Quran only.

          I don't want Graphic Images. I want the words of intuition from Allah.

          What is Ramadan ?
          What is Fasting?
          What is Hajj?
          Whats is Salah?

          Salam jhonsonmustafa,

          What am I explaining?

          Can you please read carefully before making any comment?

          Refer to the method section.

          Peace brother.

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • M Offline
            M Offline
            muslims
            wrote on last edited by
            #288

            (refer to index)

            http//s11.postimg.org/hq4ht9ic3/humanunity.png

            Beyond Religion -> Sunnatullah

            Say, "O disbelievers,

            I do not worship what you worship <- Prostrate to God Alone, accordingly, any god/religion.
            Nor are you worshippers of what I worship <- Prostrate to Allah & Adam (Humanity), Sunnatullah.

            Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship <- Religious People & God Alone Concept.
            Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship <- Upright man (Muslim) - Unity, regardless of religion etc.

            For you is your deen <- Religion - Right or wrong - Fire Element - Sectarianism.
            and for me is my deen <- Deen - Unity - Sunnatullah - Justly balanced - Fire/Earth/Air/Water.
            (109)

            http//s13.postimg.org/6hprb216f/religionelement.png

            Ibrahim was not a Jew <- Ibrahim has no religion. So as Muhammad, not a Jew/Christian (religion).
            nor a Christian http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKi*MBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
            but he was (an) upright (man) <- showing a great concern for what is right, fair and truthful way
            a Muslim <- defined by the above ayat - an upright man - obedience and justly balanced.
            and he was not one of the polytheists <- Concern with right/wrong in religious matters - 3030-32

            Most surely the nearest of people to Ibrahim
            are those
            who followed him
            and this Prophet
            and those who believe
            and Allah is the guardian of the believers
            (367-6

            And whoever seeks a "dnan" (&#1575 other than Islam <- Religion of Islam vs. Deen of Islam
            it will NEVER be accepted of him
            and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers
            (385)

            The Qur'an confirms other books, including hadith and other religious or man made books etc.

            Look for similarities
            to unite the society
            http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKiMBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
            They are free to
            practice their deen (way of life)
            (unconditional freedom)
            http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKi
            MBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
            (Fire/Air/Water/Earth) -> Confirmed by the Qur'an as..
            http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKi*MBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
            +--> Torah ----------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            +--> Injeel ---------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            +--> Hadith --------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            +--> Sunni ----------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            Texts
            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            +--> Shia ------------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            Texts
            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            +--> Khawarij ------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            Texts
            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            +--> Buddhism -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            Texts
            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            +--> Confucianism +-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            Texts
            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            +--> Hinduism ------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            Texts
            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            +--> Zoroastrianism +-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            Texts
            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            Qur'an +--> Scientology +-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity
            Confirming --->| Texts |
            Book | +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity
            (Justly |
            Balanced) |
            +--> Atheism -------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            Text/Laws
            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            +--> Man made ----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            Laws
            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            +--> Company -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            Laws
            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            +--> Satanism -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            Texts
            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            +--> Mathematics -+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            Theory/Books
            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            +--> Sciences ------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            Theory/Books
            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            +--> Geography ---+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            Theory/Books
            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            +--> Economy ------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            Theory/Books
            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            +--> Accounting ---+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            Theory/Books
            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            +--> Computer -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            Theory/Books
            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            +--> Political --------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            Theory/Books
            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            +--> and so on -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

            Theory/Books
            +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

            |
            |
            |
            |
            and so on

            For you is your deen
            (War Zone - <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335480#msg335480">God Alone</a> - Right vs. Wrong - Sectarianism)
            and
            For me is my deen
            (Human Unity - <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335753#msg335753">Prostrate to Adam</a> - All from Allah and "I Submit" to Justly Balanced)
            (<a href="http//quran.com/109/6">1096</a&gt

            http//s23.postimg.org/ifq2vi2rv/warzone.png

            Indeed, prayer prohibits immorality and wrongdoing (<a href="http//quran.com/29/45">2945</a&gt

            http//s13.postimg.org/f0sag5q85/solat.png

            Islam
            http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif
            Formula
            http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif
            Attributes
            http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif
            Understanding of Sunnatullah (Just & Balance) on the following attributes ...
            (How to blend these elements and creating the Planet of Earth - (<a href="http//quran.com/49/13">4913</a&gt)
            http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif
            +-----------------------------+-----------------------------+-----------------------------+
            http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif
            Fire Air Water Earth
            http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif

            Fire Air Water Earth
            South West East North
            Asmaullah Afaalullah Sifatullah Dzatullah
            Hablum Minallah Hablum Minannas Wisdom Khalif
            Qur'an Communication Knowledge Persistence
            Law / Policy Humanism Expertise Kusyu / Humble
            (Who is right?
            Who is wrong?)

            We can apply this formula in all aspects of our life

            The destructive aspect of the fire element.

            http//s15.postimg.org/wcikp8hwb/earth_core.jpg
            http//s24.postimg.org/ebh5sqdth/fire.png

            Stand up for what is right and wrong .. black and white. <- War zone - fire elements

            The world will hate Islam.

            Society will break apart to pieces.

            Stand up for what is just and balance in the society.

            It will bring harmony.

            It will unite humanity.

            This is Islam.

            = Objective of Khalif -> Manager (To understand Just and Balance - To understand Sunnatullah)
            = Manager -> To manage the Earth -> Negotiator, Mediator and Conciliator
            = To bring Balance
            -> Balance bring Justice
            -> Justice bring Harmony
            -> Harmony bring Security
            -> Security bring Happiness
            -> Happiness bring Love
            -> Love bring Satisfaction
            -> Satisfaction bring Alhamdulillah
            -> Alhamdulillah bring Fear (of losing Allah's attention/guidance etc ..
            as those person who are in deep love)
            -> Fear will motivate us to become better human being -> Khalif
            -> Khalif -> Reality
            -> Reality -> Allah
            = Din of Islam

            Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah
            is the most righteous of you <- justly balanced

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • M Offline
              M Offline
              muslims
              wrote on last edited by
              #289

              These words (label) may be removed from the Muslim's minds ...

              Right Wrong

              http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKiMBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png Replace with http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKiMBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png

              Justly balanced Unjust
              (maslahat = mudharat) (maslahat alone or mudharat alone)
              (to all living creatures) (for any selected sects or group of peoples)

              to humanity / living creatures

              (regardless of religion, sects, race or ethnic origin, belief, age etc.)

              From the above, we can see that the Qur'an teaches us how to balance and achieve justice ..

              It is the "Ihdina assirata almustaqeem" (16); "..and you become three kinds.." (567)

              Why it is about balance and just?

              Because ...

              We cannot change to what is right (just) in the fire element. -> unjust to the air, water and earth.
              We cannot change to what is right (just) in the air element. -> unjust to the fire, water and earth.
              We cannot change to what is right (just) in the water element. -> unjust to the fire, air and earth.
              We cannot change to what is right (just) in the earth element. -> unjust to the fire, air and water.
              We cannot change to what is right (just) in all these elements.
              We cannot change what is wrong (unjust) in all these elements.

              However, we can balance the major and minor "right (just)" in all these elements.
              ie. right 1 + right 2 + right 3 + right 4 and so on...

              ...

              Can 0% or less than 50% wrong (unjust) be achieved?

              Nope, because all these elements exist in all living creatures.

              It is Sunnatullah, and Allah is The Just, Al-`Adl (&#1604.

              Therefore, our real issue in life is why human are fighting each other and standing for what is right or wrong? (refer here)

              Our real issue in life is why not stand up for human unity, based on what is just and balance?

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • M Offline
                M Offline
                muslims
                wrote on last edited by
                #290

                Here is a wild suggestion.

                How to incorporate the Qur'an into any countries or laws?

                1. Forget about Islamic labels or identities (favorite issues to the Mushrikeen - sectarianism), and do not mention or represent the "religion" of Islam. Islam is not a religion. Focus on what is prohibited in the Qur'an and deals publicly with the question of how to improve the way of life (deen) of all human beings / living creatures.

                2. List all the "DO NOT" in the Qur'an.

                3. Study all religious texts and list all the "DO NOT" in their texts - named it whatever you like - eg. One World Religion Act, Humanitarian Acts etc. Avoid any Islamic names or identities.

                4. Study and master the rule in the "common laws and equity", and any other man-made laws. They cannot reject what is just to human beings, and especially, what come from the man made laws and their religious texts.

                5. Compare the "DO NOT" lists from both the Qur'an and their religious texts.

                6. List out all the "DO NOT" which are consistent or corroborate with the Qur'an.

                7. List out all the rules of equity or laws which are consistent or corroborate with the Qur'an (the "DO NOT" list).

                8. Prepare the draft bill/argument/debate to Parliament - or write books - or as a draft agreement between NGOs - or build website giving free draft agreements etc.

                9. Enacted as laws (not necessarily named as Islamic laws - the name is not important - avoid anything Islamic).

                The strategy can also be applied to any company or society constitution etc.

                Important institution = NGOs related to the research of laws and humanitarian etc.

                Peace.

                It is preferable for the objective to be related with something not causing "mudharat" (harm) to self, others and all living creatures; and according to their faith.

                The priority between .. "prohibition" vs. "command".

                What is "prohibited" (prevention/protection/preservation/justly balanced to human beings) should be given priority over what is commanded by Allah (compulsion to other religions or disbelievers, raise resistance).

                They said
                "Will You place upon it one
                who causes corruption therein <- mudharat
                and sheds blood
                while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?"
                (230)

                So there is no "to promote" in the objective, but "to prevent" (deen, dayn, debt, duty not to cause mudharat, duty to protect).

                Paradise
                |
                Allah's Command
                (maximum - mostly not achievable)
                (Bonus Level - Level for Individual)
                Compromise - Based on sincerity
                |
                100%
                |
                90%
                |
                80%
                |
                70%
                |
                60%
                |
                50%
                |
                40%
                |
                30%
                |
                20%
                |
                10%

                0 <------------ Prohibition (Do Not) ------------> 0

                Minimum Level for Unity in the Society (Foundation)
                (Acceptable by all living creatures as justly balanced - Unity - Society will improve from this level)
                No compromise
                |
                Hell

                O you who have believed
                DO NOT ASK about things
                which if they are shown to you
                will distress you <- Things that will cause resistance in the society. No unity! Mission failed!
                But if you ask about them while the Qur'an is being revealed
                they will be shown to you
                Allah has pardoned that which is past
                and Allah is Forgiving and Forbearing <- It doesn't matter right or wrong, Allah will forgive!
                (5101)

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • M Offline
                  M Offline
                  muslims
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #291

                  For you is your deen <- Sectarianism - based on "religion" etc. - a bigot - God alone concept
                  and for me is my deen <- Human Unity - based on "deen" - righteousness - fairness
                  (109)

                  Ibrahim was not a Jew <- Ibrahim has no religion, so as Muhammad. Nonsectarian.
                  nor a Christian http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKi*MBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
                  but he was (an) upright (man) <- showing a great concern for what is right, fair and truthful way
                  a Muslim <- Muslim = an upright man - a Muslim is defined by the above ayat
                  and he was not one of the polytheists <- Sectarianism
                  (367-6 Concern with right/wrong in religious matters - 3030-32

                  Comparison (refer here)

                  Hasty generalization <- sectarianism, religion, bigotry

                  Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc is true for A (unjust).
                  Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc is true for B (unjust).
                  Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc is true for C (unjust).
                  Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc is true for D (unjust).

                  Therefore...

                  Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc is true for
                  E (way of life - deen)
                  F (way of life - deen)
                  G (way of life - deen), etc.

                  and..

                  What about that is justly balanced in the Hadith/Sunna/Shia/Christian/Buddha etc ?

                  Sectarianism, according to one definition, is bigotry, discrimination, or hatred arising from attaching importance to perceived differences between subdivisions within a group, such as between different denominations of a religion, class, regional or factions of a political movement.

                  The ideological underpinnings of attitudes and behaviours labelled as sectarian are extraordinarily varied. Members of a religious or political group may believe that their own salvation, or the success of their particular objectives, requires aggressively seeking converts from other groups; adherents of a given faction may believe that for the achievement of their own political or religious project their internal opponents must be converted or purged.

                  Sometimes a group that is under economic or political pressure will kill or attack members of another group which it regards as responsible for its own decline. It may also more rigidly define the definition of "orthodox" belief within its particular group or organisation, and expel or excommunicate those who do not support this newfound clarified definition of political or religious 'orthodoxy'. In other cases, dissenters from this orthodoxy will secede from the orthodox organisation and proclaim themselves as practitioners of a reformed belief system, or holders of a perceived former orthodoxy. At other times, sectarianism may be the expression of a group's nationalistic or cultural ambitions, or exploited by demagogues; Wikipedia

                  Sectarianism is
                  bigotry
                  discrimination
                  or hatred

                  arising from
                  attaching importance to perceived differences between subdivisions within a group
                  such as between different denominations of
                  a religion
                  class
                  regional
                  or factions of a political movement

                  Bigotry is

                  the state of mind of a bigot

                  someone who
                  as a result of their prejudices
                  treats other people with
                  fear
                  distrust
                  hatred
                  contempt
                  or intolerance

                  on the basis of a person's
                  ethnicity
                  religion
                  national origin
                  gender
                  sexual orientation
                  disability
                  socioeconomic status
                  or other characteristics

                  A bigot is

                  a prejudiced person
                  who is intolerant
                  of any opinions
                  differing from their own

                  or intolerant of people
                  of different
                  political views
                  ethnicity
                  race
                  class
                  religion
                  profession
                  sexuality
                  or gender

                  The origin of the word bigot and bigoterie (bigotry) in English dates back to at least 1598, via Middle French, and started with the sense of "religious hypocrite". This meaning still survives in Italian, in the cognate word bigotto. The exact origin of the word is unknown, but it may have come from the German bei and Gott, or the English by God; Online Etymology Dictionary; see also Nobody wants to be called a bigot

                  Discrimination is

                  the prejudicial
                  and/or distinguishing treatment of an individual

                  based on their
                  actual or perceived membership
                  in a certain group or category
                  "in a way that is worse than the way people are usually treated"

                  Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah
                  is the most righteous of you <- justly balanced; ie. fairness vs. a bigot

                  And whoever seeks a "dnan" (&#1575 other than Islam
                  it will NEVER be accepted of him
                  and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers
                  (<a href="http//corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=3&verse=85">385</a&gt

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • M Offline
                    M Offline
                    muslims
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #292

                    Can a sectarian be a successor or a Khalif?

                    Can a sectarian (a bigot) be a judge to other/all human beings?

                    Indeed, We have revealed to you
                    the Book in truth
                    so you may judge between the people <- purpose of the Qur'an
                    by that which Allah has shown you
                    And do not be for the deceitful an advocate
                    (4105)

                    Indeed, Allah commands you to render trusts
                    to whom they are due <- all human beings, including all living creatures
                    and when you judge between people
                    to judge with justice
                    Excellent is that which Allah instructs you
                    Indeed, Allah is ever Hearing and Seeing
                    (458)

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • M Offline
                      M Offline
                      muslims
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #293

                      (refer to index)

                      Whether Prophet Ibrahim and Muhammad are bigots?

                      No, refer to (367-68).

                      Whether the Jew, Christian and polytheists are bigots?

                      Whether the Sunnism, Shi'ism, Quranism, Wahhabbism etc are bigots?

                      Whether Muslim is bigotry?

                      Muslim
                      |
                      |
                      Deen
                      (regardless of religions etc.)
                      |
                      |
                      Justly balanced
                      |

                      A "dnan" (&#1575 other than Islam <------------- Islam? -------------> it will NEVER be accepted of him

                      (385)
                      |
                      |
                      Fallacy of Generalization
                      (of what is justly balanced and unjust)
                      |
                      |
                      Religion of Islam etc.
                      (Madhab - God Alone Concept)
                      |
                      |
                      Bigot
                      (Sectarian)

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • M Offline
                        M Offline
                        muslims
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #294

                        http//s16.postimg.org/cyvakuyx1/deen.png

                        Towards Human Unity

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335929#msg335929">Tests from Allah</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335256#msg335256">Main Issue</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335480#msg335480">What is God Alone Religion? </a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335690#msg335690">Defintion of Just and Balance (Sunnatullah)</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335855#msg335855">What is Islam?</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335472#msg335472">Prostrate to Adam</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336532#msg336532">The Common Aspects of Religions.</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335571#msg335571">Which is the right religion ?</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336528#msg336528">The destructive aspect of the fire element.</a>

                        For you is your deen, and for me is my deen

                        Islam is not a religion (madhab)

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335361#msg335361">Islam A Challenge to Religion</a>

                        A comparative study of religion or madhhab

                        Whether Deen is Religion (Madhab)?

                        Religion and the Fallacy of Generalization

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335823#msg335823">The Quranic Concept of Salvation</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335261#msg335261">Allah will never accept Religion of Islam</a>

                        Examle of Deen <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336008#msg336008">1</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335737#msg335737">2</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335738#msg335738">3</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335739#msg335739">4</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335740#msg335740">5</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335741#msg335741">6</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335742#msg335742">7</a>.

                        Beyond Religion Sunnatullah

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335531#msg335531">Purpose of creation</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335579#msg335579">What is "Sirat al-Mustaqim"?</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336009#msg336009">What does Adam represent?</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335753#msg335753">Descendants of Adam.</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335266#msg335266">Who is a Muslim?</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335603#msg335603">The "DO NOT" prohibition</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605770.msg336452#msg336452">Hadith & Sects.</a> <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605770.msg336423#msg336423">Sura</a> + <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605770.msg336428#msg336428">Prohibition</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335928#msg335928">Impossible for people who i'tiqad to disobey Allah to enter Paradise.</a>

                        Why Prophet Ibrahim and Muhammad was not a Jew or Christian?

                        DO NOT die except as Muslims

                        Description of a Muslim in the Qur'an

                        A Muslim or a Bigot?

                        Can a sectarian (a bigot) be a judge to other/all human beings?

                        Borderline between a Muslim and a Bigot

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335476#msg335476">Muslim Job Scope</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335931#msg335931">Purpose of Life</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335891#msg335891">Alhamdu</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336009#msg336009">Allah Alone is no use for our salvation</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336010#msg336010">Duty Awareness Program (Deen)</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335950#msg335950">What is Right or Wrong?</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336077#msg336077">The Qur'an is about us.</a>

                        What does the Qur'an teach?

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335263#msg335263">Duty To Ourselves</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335265#msg335265">Understanding The Quran</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335283#msg335283">Language of the Heart</a>

                        Level of understanding the Qur'an

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335515#msg335515">What is Reality?</a> <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335521#msg335521">(2)</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335524#msg335524">(3)</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335788#msg335788">Qur'an is an introductory Book, Guidance or Manual.</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335810#msg335810">Signs</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335950#msg335950">Pleasure</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336130#msg336130">Dictionary of the Qur'an</a>

                        Other forms of Shirk

                        Shirk & the God and Ulema within ourselves

                        Shirk in the form of a very fine

                        The key to understand justly balanced

                        The Qur'anic standard for the attainment of righteousness

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335472#msg335472">Philosophy of Salat</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335474#msg335474">True Solat is Jihad?</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335659#msg335659">Formula for Success</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335483#msg335483">First Step - Fire</a>

                        Purpose of Ibada

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335476#msg335476">Formula for Unity - Negotiator, Mediator and Conciliator</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335880#msg335880">Towards Human Unity</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335750#msg335750">Unconditional Freedom</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336189#msg336189">The Flow of Ideas</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336234#msg336234">Example of Quranic Ideas</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336219#msg336219">Ideas of Just and Balance</a>

                        <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336265#msg336265">When Being Wrong Is Right</a>

                        The Matrix of Justly Balanced For Our Salvation

                        Why the matrix?

                        Qur'an as the Confirming Book

                        Look for similarities to unite the society

                        Words (label) to be removed from the mind of any Muslim

                        How to incorporate the Qur'an into any countries or laws?

                        Islamic Constitution

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • M Offline
                          M Offline
                          muslims
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #295

                          For the purpose of description and easy understanding on our current level of faith...

                          Philosophy on the level of understanding/obedience to the Qur'an

                          Indeed, IT IS A NOBLE QURAN
                          In a protected Book <- Who can unlock if Allah protect its true understanding?
                          None can grasp it
                          except those purified (from shirk) <- The key to understand the Qur'an
                          (<a href="http//quran.com/56/77-79">5677-79</a&gt The key to obedience (refer here and here)

                          https//www.google.com/help/hc/images/sites_icon_arrow_up_small.gif
                          https//www.google.com/help/hc/images/sites_icon_arrow_up_small.gif
                          https//www.google.com/help/hc/images/sites_icon_arrow_up_small.gif


                          Level of 30%
                          Under- https//www.google.com/help/hc/images/sites_icon_arrow_up_small.gif
                          Level of standing Level of Impact of Level of 20%
                          Shirk the Qur'an Obedience Allah's tests Believers https//www.google.com/help/hc/images/sites_icon_arrow_up_small.gif
                          (Faith) 10%


                              • -> True Believers -> 0% 100% -> Auliya
                                (<a href="http//quran.com/49/15">4915</a&gt(<a href="http//quran.com/8/2">82</a&gt http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif (<a href="http//quran.com/10/62-64">1062-64</a&gt
                              • 10% 90%
                                http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                              • 20% 80%
                                http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                              • 30% 70%
                                http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                              • 40% 60%
                                http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                              • 50% 50%
                                http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                              • 60% 40%
                                http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                              • 70% 30%
                                http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                              • 80% 20%
                                http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                              • 100% 10%
                                http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                0% 100% 100% -> Mukmeen -> 0 -0
                                http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif (<a href="http//quran.com/49/17">4917</a&gt http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                10% 90% 90% -10
                                http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                20% 80% 80% -20
                                http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                30% 70% 70% -30
                                http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                40% 60% 60% -40
                                http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                50% 50% 50% -50
                                http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                60% 40% 40% -60
                                http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                70% 30% 30% -70
                                http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                80% 20% 20% -80
                                http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                90% 10% 10% -90
                                http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                100% 0% 0% -> Muslim -> -100 <- Faith equal to "Love Monkey"=No faith!
                                (<a href="http//quran.com/49/14-17">4914-17</a&gt
                                (<a href="http//quran.com/39/12">3912</a&gt
                                http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                None dispute concerning the communications of Allah but those who disbelieve <--- Borderline
                                (breach of contract (<a href="http//quran.com/2/27">227</a&gt) (non-muslim)
                                (the "DO NOT" prohibition - impossible to enter paradise)
                                http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKiMBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
                                DISBELIEVER
                                (disobedience)
                                http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKi
                                MBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
                                Munafiqoon
                                (disobey silently)
                                (<a href="http//quran.com/2/8">28</a&gt
                                http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKiMBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
                                Mushrikeen
                                (disobey openly)
                                (<a href="http//quran.com/39/38">3938</a&gt(<a href="http//quran.com/30/30-32">3030-32</a&gt(<a href="http//quran.com/6/121">6121</a&gt(<a href="http//quran.com/6/150">6150</a&gt
                                http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKi
                                MBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
                                True Disbeliever
                                (26)
                                http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKi*MBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
                                Prehuman ?
                                (822)

                          • a simple draft for easy understanding and not necessarily in order or most accurate

                          None dispute concerning the communications of Allah but those who disbelieve
                          (404)

                          Such has been the course of Allah that has indeed run before
                          and you shall not find a change in Allah's course
                          (4823)

                          And We said O Adam!
                          Dwell you and your wife in the garden
                          and eat from it a plenteous (food) wherever you wish
                          and DO NOT approach this tree <- an example of the "DO NOT" prohibition (unintentionally).
                          for then you will be of the unjust
                          But the Shaitan made them both fall from it
                          and caused them to depart from that (state) in which they were
                          and We said Get forth, some of you being the enemies of others
                          and there is for you in the earth an abode and a provision for a time
                          (235-36)

                          The Flow of Ideas
                          Other forms of Shirk
                          Shirk & the God and Ulema within ourselves
                          Shirk in the form of a very fine
                          The key to understand justly balanced
                          The Qur'anic standard for the attainment of righteousness
                          The majority will be in the hellfire, abide eternally.

                          And (as for) those
                          who reject Our communications <- the "DO NOT" prohibition
                          and turn away from them haughtily
                          these are the inmates of the fire
                          they shall abide in it
                          (<a href="http//quran.com/7/35-36">735-36</a&gt

                          Surely this is indeed what is the evident trial
                          (<a href="http//quran.com/37/106">37106</a&gt

                          Do the people think
                          that they will be left to say,
                          "We believe"
                          and they will not be tried?

                          But We have certainly tried those before them
                          and Allah will surely make evident
                          those who are truthful
                          and He will surely make evident
                          the liars

                          Or do those who do evil deeds think they can outrun Us?
                          Evil is what they judge
                          (<a href="http//quran.com/29/2-4">292-4</a&gt

                          Or do you think
                          that you will enter Paradise
                          while such has not yet come to you
                          as came to those who passed on before you?

                          They were touched by poverty
                          and hardship
                          and were shaken
                          until messenger
                          and those who believed with him said
                          "When is the help of Allah ?"
                          Unquestionably, the help of Allah is near
                          (<a href="http//quran.com/2/214">2214</a&gt

                          Can anyone know or defeat Allah's plan?

                          So leave Me and him who rejects this announcement
                          We will overtake them by degrees
                          from whence they perceive not
                          And I do bear with them
                          surely My plan is firm <- Can human beings defeat this plan?
                          (<a href="http//quran.com/68/44-45">6844-45</a&gt

                          And when they meet those who believe, they say
                          We believe
                          and when they are alone with their Shaitans, they say
                          Surely we are with you, we were only mocking <- it means intentional disobedience, the "DO NOT"
                          Allah shall pay them back their mockery Munafiqoon (disobey silently)
                          and He leaves them alone in their inordinacy Mushrikeen (disobey openly)
                          blindly wandering on
                          (<a href="http//quran.com/2/14-15">214-15</a&gt

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • M Offline
                            M Offline
                            muslims
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #296

                            Why Allah guides the prostitute to the straight path?

                            Why Allah guides the thief to the straight path?

                            Why Allah lead astray the Ulemas?

                            What really matters to Allah?

                            What is Allah like to see from us?

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • M Offline
                              M Offline
                              muslims
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #297

                              Age Concept of Right/Wrong

                              70 Being absolutely right for the level of 70 years old person "
                              http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                              60 Being absolutely right for the level of 60 years old person "
                              http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                              50 Being absolutely right for the level of 50 years old person "
                              http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                              40 Being absolutely right for the level of 40 years old person "
                              http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                              30 Being absolutely right for the level of 30 years old person "
                              http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                              20 Being absolutely right for the level of 20 years old person "
                              http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                              10 Being absolutely right for the level of 10 years old person "
                              http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                              1 Being absolutely right for the level of 1 year old baby <-- limited by our senses, abilities etc.

                              Similarly, this can be applied to certain life conditions, psychological backgrounds, personal traits, ethnic, educational backgrounds, and etc. These are all variables, and the overall consequences are the Sunnatullah, Absolute Justice.

                              Therefore, does it really matter of being right or wrong?

                              Does the above pattern of being right or wrong really matters to Allah?

                              What about those who live 1,000 years ago, where there is no proper educational system, or where people unable to read the Qur'an? Can they survive and become a real Muslim? Can we apply the same concept of right or wrong?

                              What is the actual standard to become a Muslim?

                              there is no target for becoming a Muslim.

                              http//s14.postimg.org/tp4not4vl/glasses.png

                              There are no fixed rules, and it can be the hardest things to achieve, or it can be the simplest things to achieve; which totally depends on the "Level of Shirk" within ourselves.

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • M Offline
                                M Offline
                                muslims
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #298

                                For example, how can anyone expect to be free from this Shirk?

                                If we based on the concept of right or wrong, then no one would ever survive (without the help of Allah)...

                                And set forth to them a parable of two men
                                for one of them We made two gardens of grape vines
                                and We surrounded them both with palms
                                and in the midst of them We made cornfields

                                Both these gardens yielded their fruits
                                and failed not aught thereof
                                and We caused a river to gush forth in their midst

                                And he possessed much wealth

                                so he said to his companion, while he disputed with him

                                I have greater wealth than you, and am mightier in followers <- Shirk? This is what most people
                                https//www.google.com/help/hc/images/sites_icon_arrow_up_small.gif would say. Greater wealth,
                                And he entered his garden https//www.google.com/help/hc/images/sites_icon_arrow_up_small.gif knowledge, skills, family etc.
                                while he was unjust to himself, He said <- On the issue of justly balanced within ourselves.
                                I do not think that this will ever perish <- This is also what most people would say.
                                And I do not think the hour will come i.e. not come within the next few hours, days, years etc.
                                and even if I am returned to my Lord <- Same, and most people believe they will be in Paradise.
                                I will most certainly find a returning place better than this Proof that he believe in Allah and the
                                Hour will come, but not in his lifetime.
                                His companion said to him while disputing with him

                                Do you disbelieve in Him <- Shirk?
                                Who created you from dust
                                then from a small seed
                                then He made you a perfect man?

                                But as for me
                                He, Allah, is my Lord
                                and I do not associate anyone with my Lord <- Who is "anyone" in this story context? Self?

                                (1832-4

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • M Offline
                                  M Offline
                                  muslims
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #299

                                  And you become three kinds

                                  Then the companions of the right <- just
                                  what are the companions of the right?

                                  And the companions of the left <- unjust
                                  what are the companions of the left?

                                  And the forerunners, the forerunners <- justly balanced (Sunnatullah -> just + unjust)
                                  Those are the ones brought near
                                  In the Gardens of Pleasure

                                  (567-12)

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • M Offline
                                    M Offline
                                    muslims
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #300

                                    In the name of Allah

                                    the Beneficent
                                    the Merciful

                                    All praise <- What for?
                                    is due to Allah <- Deen, dayn, debt, due

                                    the Lord of the Worlds <- Does human beings really witness this? How many?

                                    The Beneficent
                                    the Merciful

                                    Master of the Day of Judgment

                                    Thee do we serve <- serve comes first (obedience), only then eligible for help
                                    and Thee do we beseech for help

                                    Keep us <- Is there really a free will? Or influence on our free will?
                                    on the right path <- Who hold the key to the right path?
                                    The path of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed favors
                                    Not (the path) of those upon whom Thy wrath is brought down
                                    nor of those who go astray

                                    (11-7)

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • M Offline
                                      M Offline
                                      muslims
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #301

                                      Level of
                                      Under-
                                      Level of standing Level of Impact of Level of
                                      Shirk the Qur'an Obedience Allah's tests Believers
                                      (Faith)


                                      100% 0% 0% -> Muslim -> -100 <- Faith equal to "Love Monkey"=No faith!

                                      http//s22.postimg.org/zaua8dhr1/monkey.png

                                      Proof that there is no faith... not yet.

                                      The test.

                                      Example on the standard required to attain righteousness

                                      By no means shall you attain to righteousness
                                      until you spend (benevolently)
                                      out of what you love
                                      and whatever thing you spend
                                      Allah surely knows it
                                      (392)

                                      And they ask you as to what they should spend (sadaqah)
                                      Say What you can spare
                                      Thus does Allah make clear to you the communications
                                      that you may ponder
                                      (2219)

                                      Who can sadaqa all his property for Allah?

                                      Try practicing this for 7 continuous years without failed.

                                      Do you feel worry?

                                      Hard to accept?

                                      If yes, then there is no faith.

                                      It is quite simple.

                                      The believers
                                      are only <- exclusionary principle and the definition of believers
                                      the ones who have believed in Allah and His Messenger
                                      and then doubt not
                                      but strive with their properties
                                      and their lives
                                      in the cause of Allah
                                      It is those who are the truthful.
                                      (4915)

                                      Unquestionably, the allies of Allah
                                      there will be no fear concerning them
                                      nor will they grieve
                                      (1062-64)

                                      Do the people think
                                      that they will be left to say,
                                      "We believe"
                                      and they will not be tried?

                                      There are no fixed rules, and it can be the hardest things to achieve, or it can be the simplest things to achieve; which totally depends on the "Level of Shirk" within ourselves.

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • M Offline
                                        M Offline
                                        muslims
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #302

                                        there is no target for becoming a Muslim.

                                        What really matters to Allah?

                                        What is Allah like to see from us?

                                        The struggling and going is the goal, and it doesn't matter where we start (or end), as long as we start somewhere and keep on improving our life and strengthening our faith.

                                        The actual requirement in the Qur'an is for human beings to learn, understand, and reform continuously for the better (istiqamah - changes from within ourselves comes first - roots of a tree).

                                        It is the process of understanding that matter, not the end results (comparison - how can one expect to be free from shirk within a short period of time? Impossible!). Therefore it doesn't matter or less relevant to Islam if peoples wear Hijab or not, since it is not the real issue in Islam. In fact, it is the most irrelevant issue to the society (it is personal issue - 5105).

                                        Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah
                                        are the deaf and dumb
                                        who do not use reason <- The importance of reason, and not becoming a robot (blind follower)
                                        (822) (trees without roots - how long can it hold straight on the ground?)

                                        And before it was the scripture of Moses
                                        to lead and as a mercy

                                        And this is a confirming Book
                                        in an Arabic tongue
                                        to warn those who have wronged
                                        and as good tidings to the doers of good <- Is this the reality of our life? Is it true? If not, why?
                                        Indeed, those who have said
                                        "Our Lord is Allah"
                                        and then remained on a right course
                                        there will be no fear concerning them
                                        nor will they grieve
                                        (4612-13)

                                        Do you not see
                                        that ships sail through the sea
                                        by the favor of Allah
                                        that He may show you of His signs?
                                        Indeed in that are signs
                                        for everyone patient <- the standard or main requirements, patient and grateful
                                        and grateful <- Alhamdu
                                        (3131)

                                        Indeed, Allah is with those
                                        who fear Him
                                        and those who are doers of good
                                        (16128)

                                        Those who believe
                                        and do righteous good deeds

                                        there is no sin on them
                                        for what they ate

                                        if they fear Allah
                                        and believe
                                        and do righteous good deeds

                                        and again
                                        fear Allah
                                        and believe

                                        and once again
                                        fear Allah
                                        and do good deeds

                                        with Ihsan (perfection)

                                        And Allah loves the good-doers
                                        (593)

                                        Except for those who repent
                                        correct themselves
                                        hold fast to Allah
                                        and are sincere in their deen for Allah <- requires understanding
                                        for those will be with the believers
                                        And Allah is going to give the believers a great reward
                                        (4146)

                                        There is not upon the weak
                                        or upon the ill
                                        or upon those who do not find anything to spend any discomfort
                                        when they are sincere
                                        to Allah and His Messenger
                                        There is not upon the doers of good any cause
                                        And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful
                                        (991)

                                        And cause not corruption upon the earth
                                        after its reformation
                                        And invoke Him in fear and aspiration
                                        Indeed, the mercy of Allah
                                        is near to the doers of good
                                        (756)

                                        Indeed, Allah does not allow to be lost the reward
                                        of the doers of good
                                        (9120)

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • M Offline
                                          M Offline
                                          muslims
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #303

                                          +---- Controlled by Allah ----+
                                          | |
                                          | |
                                          +------- Favorite topics ------+
                                          | for religious people |
                                          | |
                                          Irrelevant Irrelevant
                                          to human to human
                                          (war zone) (war zone)
                                          | |
                                          | |
                                          | |
                                          | Freewill |
                                          | (Qur'an) |
                                          | (Sunnatullah) |
                                          | (Justly Balanced) |
                                          | | |
                                          | | |
                                          | Level of |
                                          | Alhamdu |
                                          | | |
                                          | | |
                                          Wrong |<----- 100% ----->| Right
                                          Evil | Good
                                          Unlucky 90% Lucky
                                          Ugly | Pretty
                                          Poor 80% Rich
                                          Etc. | Etc.
                                          ^ 70% ^
                                          | | |
                                          | 60% |
                                          | | |
                                          | 50% |
                                          | | |
                                          | 40% |
                                          | | |
                                          | 30% |
                                          | | |
                                          | 20% |
                                          | | |
                                          | 10% |
                                          | | |
                                          | 0% |
                                          | ^ |
                                          | | |
                                          | | |
                                          | (3131) |
                                          | patient (doers of good) |
                                          +------------- Grateful -------------+
                                          | Alhamdu |
                                          | ^ |
                                          Takes ^ Takes
                                          time | time
                                          ^ | ^
                                          | | |
                                          | Progressive |
                                          | | |

                                          • <------- Understanding ------>+
                                            |
                                            |
                                            Depends on the Level of Shirk
                                            |
                                            Those with "one heart" (no heart) will never commit Shirk
                                            Shirk or Faith requires "the right elements of" Iman and Amal to be presence
                                            Therefore
                                            Condition = Iman + Amal = Not Shirk/Faith
                                            Similarly = Iman + Amal = Not Shirk/Faith
                                            Iman + Amal = Shirk/Faith
                                            |
                                            And rely on Allah
                                            and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.
                                            Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior.
                                            (333-4)

                                          The struggling and going is the goal, and it doesn't matter where we start (or end), as long as we start somewhere and keep on improving our life and strengthening our faith.

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Users