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    muslims
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    Peace Brother,

    PLease Read 1788

    Say "If the mankind and the jinns were together to produce the like of this Quran, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they helped one another."

    Salam jhonsonmustafa,

    So what?

    What's it got to do with justly balanced?

    Do you understand what is the issue?

    Peace brother.

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      Peace Muslims,

      What English word would you replace the word "religion" with according to your understanding?

      God bless

      Salam hawk99,

      Is this your argument? )

      1. "Madhab" is religion.
      2. "Deen" is not "Madhab".
      3. Therefore, Deen is religion (Madhab) in English.

      Why? You are going to blame the Qur'an because you cannot find the accurate translation for the word "Deen" in English?

      Further, I answer all your questions when you asked me. However, when I ask question relating to your conclusion, you ignored, and instead of supporting your conclusion with an ayat, you ask me with a new set of question. Now please answer my question and stick to the issue (refer here).

      1. Why are you saying the English translation of "deen" as "religion" represents its true meaning in the Qur'an?

      2. What is the definition of "Believer" and "Non Believer" in the Qur'an?

      3. What is the ayaat to support your conclusion that the meaning of (Deen of) Islam is deviated in Arabic; ie. It is deviated and Islam should mean religion in Arabic.

      Peace brother.

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        Peace Muslims,

        I am only asking one question.

        What English word would you replace the word "religion" with according to your understanding?

        God bless

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          Peace Muslims,

          I am only asking one question.

          What English word would you replace the word "religion" with according to your understanding?

          God bless

          Salam hawk99

          You still don't get it?

          Who cares what it means in English.

          Allah never asked me to believe in the translation.

          There is only one Qur'an, and it is in Arabic. It is not in English.

          If you cannot find the accurate translation for the word "deen", then refer to its true meaning in Arabic. Why you want to distort and replace it with meaning not associated with the word "deen"? (root for deen dayn = debt)

          And please give reasons for your conclusion (refer here).

          Peace brother.

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            Peace Brother Muslims,

            The Quran was ofcourse descended in Arabic (native)language on our prophet/messenger Mohammad. Please note that according to Ayats

            4458 - We have thus made it easy in your language, perhaps they may take heed.

            144 - And We have not sent any messenger except in the language of his people, so he may clarify for them. But God misguides whom He wills, and He guides whom He wills. And He is the Noble, the Wise

            16103 - And We are aware that they say "A human being is teaching him." The tongue of the one they refer to is foreign, while this is a clear Arabic tongue.

            Suppose if Prophet Mohammad was born in France, then the Quran would have descened in French (native language of Prophet Mohammad to warn people going astray or to assure heaven for people who do good deeds).

            Language is not important. But the MESSAGE is.

            Sabina

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              Language is not important. But the MESSAGE is.

              Salam Sabina,

              I agree but the issue to my discussion with hawk99 are as follows

              You say...

              If you all are referring to a language other than english, Islam may mean many things

              Arabic is a "language other than English".

              Therefore and according to you, "Islam may mean many things" in Arabic language.

              Now, what does the Qur'an say?

              an Arabic Qur'an
              without any deviance
              that they might become righteous
              (3928)

              It is inconsistent with the Qur'an.

              Therefore, the issue is whether the word (deen of) Islam is deviated in Arabic?
              (and the english translation is not deviated? ie. deen of Islam is religion of Islam)

              Do you understand what is the issue to our discussion?

              Peace.

              Main issue..

              Whether Allah accepts "Religion of Islam" or "Deen of Islam"?

              And whoever seeks a "dnan" (&#1575 other than Islam
              it will NEVER be accepted of him
              and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers
              (<a href="http//corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=3&verse=85">385</a&gt

              This begs the question What is islam..

              And no - it is not a RELIGION. All religions are MAN MADE.

              Peace

              Salam hawk99,

              Is this your argument? )

              1. "Madhab" is religion.
              2. "Deen" is not "Madhab".
              3. Therefore, Deen is religion (Madhab) in English.

              Why?

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                Peace Muslims,

                I am only asking one question.

                What English word would you replace the word "religion" with according to your understanding?

                If you do not have an answer why not just say so? Millions read the Quran translated in
                various languages, so your point is nil. Until you can come up with a better translation
                than the word "religion" it will stand. No offense intended.

                109/6 I am not calling anyone kafir, but just an example of translations.

                Sahih International For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."

                Pickthall Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.

                Yusuf Ali To you be your Way, and to me mine.

                Shakir You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.

                Muhammad Sarwar You follow your religion and I follow mine.

                Mohsin Khan "To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islamic Monotheism)."

                Arberry To you your religion, and to me my religion!'

                God bless

                peace

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                  Peace Muslims,

                  I am only asking one question.

                  What English word would you replace the word "religion" with according to your understanding?

                  If you do not have an answer why not just say so? Millions read the Quran translated in
                  various languages, so your point is nil. Until you can come up with a better translation
                  than the word "religion" it will stand. No offense intended.

                  109/6 I am not calling anyone kafir, but just an example of translations.

                  Sahih International For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."

                  Pickthall Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.

                  Yusuf Ali To you be your Way, and to me mine.

                  Shakir You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.

                  Muhammad Sarwar You follow your religion and I follow mine.

                  Mohsin Khan "To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islamic Monotheism)."

                  Arberry To you your religion, and to me my religion!'

                  God bless

                  peace

                  Salam hawk99,

                  How many times I have to answer you?

                  Who cares what it means in English.

                  Allah never asked me to believe in the translation.

                  There is only one Qur'an, and it is in Arabic. It is not in English.

                  In other words, your conclusion is irrelevant to the Deen of Islam. It is not Islam, and no real Muslim should be bothered to answer what is the true meaning of the Qur'an in the English language.

                  Therefore, If you wish to believe the English Qur'an, no one is stopping you. One thing for sure, Allah only accepts Deen of Islam, and not Religion (Madhab) of Islam (385).

                  And please give reasons for your conclusion (refer here).

                  Peace brother.

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                    hawk99
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                    Peace Muslims,

                    I understand, no offense intended handshake

                    God bless

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                      muslims
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                      Peace Muslims,

                      I understand, no offense intended handshake

                      God bless

                      Peace hawk99

                      God bless handshake

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                          Objective

                          The recommended method for obedience of the Qur'an is initially through mastering the ibada of fasting (days), sadaqah, reading the Qur'an or dzikr and while doing good to others.

                          This is the Book (the Quran)
                          whereof there is no doubt
                          a guidance to those who are Al-Muttaqun <- The first condition to understand the Qur'an.
                          (22) Other than Al-Muttaqun?

                          Therefore, first objective = becoming Al-Muttaqun

                          Method

                          and basically, the objectives of Ibada are as follows

                          Fast "..decreed upon you is fasting as it was decreed upon those before you
                          that you may become righteous.." (2183)
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                          Sadaqah "..Take from their wealth a charity by which you purify them
                          and cause them increase.." (9103)
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                          Hajj (or else) "..That they may witness benefits for themselves
                          and mention the name of Allah.." (2228)
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                          Salat "..prayer prohibits immorality and wrongdoing.." (2945)
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                          Shahada Alhamdu lillahi rabbi alAAalameen

                          ...

                          Primary importance

                          Command War zone Objectives (primary importance)
                          (illusion) (reality)
                          Sawm/Fast -> How -> - become righteous (ourselves)
                          Sadaqah to - to purify ourselves
                          Hajj (or else) perform? - witness benefits in ourselves
                          Salat etc. - prohibits immorality/wrongdoing in ourselves
                          Shahada - understanding of reality (ourselves)

                          Requirement

                          Example on the standard required to attain righteousness

                          By no means shall you attain to righteousness
                          until you spend (benevolently)
                          out of what you love
                          and whatever thing you spend
                          Allah surely knows it
                          (392)

                          And they ask you as to what they should spend (sadaqah)
                          Say What you can spare
                          Thus does Allah make clear to you the communications
                          that you may ponder
                          (2219)

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                          Sadaqah Objective (Self Improvement)

                          100% (what you love) Attain to righteousness
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                          90% Attain what? futility?
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                          80% Attain what? futility?
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                          70% Attain what? futility?
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                          60% Attain what? futility?
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                          50% Attain what? futility?
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                          40% Attain what? futility?
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                          30% Attain what? futility?
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                          20% Attain what? futility?
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                          10% Attain what? futility?
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                          2.5% Attain what? futility? <- Zakah

                          Similarly...

                          Sawm/Fast Objective (Self Improvement)
                          (Level of starvation)
                          100% Attain to righteousness? <- Near to death experience?
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                          90% Attain what? futility?
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                          80% Attain what? futility?
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                          70% Attain what? futility?
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                          60% Attain what? futility?
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                          50% Attain what? futility?
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                          40% Attain what? futility?
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                          30% Attain what? futility?
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                          2.5% Attain what? futility? <- Fasting in the month of Ramadhan

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                            jhonsonmustafa
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                            Salam hawk99

                            You still don't get it?

                            Who cares what it means in English.

                            Allah never asked me to believe in the translation.

                            There is only one Qur'an, and it is in Arabic. It is not in English.

                            If you cannot find the accurate translation for the word "deen", then refer to its true meaning in Arabic. Why you want to distort and replace it with meaning not associated with the word "deen"? (root for deen dayn = debt)

                            And please give reasons for your conclusion (refer here).

                            Peace brother.

                            Peace Brother,

                            No intention of picking up fight. You neglected 22, 178 and supporting Hadith.
                            Quran is the Root in language. Its only for reference. The Quran is available in 1000+ plus languages.
                            Those who wish Allah will reveal in native language.

                            144
                            And We did not send any messenger except in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.

                            434
                            And verily, it is in the Mother Language of the Book, in Our Presence, high (in dignity), full of wisdom.

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                              jhonsonmustafa
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                              Peace Brother Muslims,

                              The Quran was ofcourse descended in Arabic (native)language on our prophet/messenger Mohammad. Please note that according to Ayats

                              4458 - We have thus made it easy in your language, perhaps they may take heed.

                              144 - And We have not sent any messenger except in the language of his people, so he may clarify for them. But God misguides whom He wills, and He guides whom He wills. And He is the Noble, the Wise

                              16103 - And We are aware that they say "A human being is teaching him." The tongue of the one they refer to is foreign, while this is a clear Arabic tongue.

                              Suppose if Prophet Mohammad was born in France, then the Quran would have descened in French (native language of Prophet Mohammad to warn people going astray or to assure heaven for people who do good deeds).

                              Language is not important. But the MESSAGE is.

                              Sabina

                              Excellent Sister. God Bless you

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                                Peace Brother,

                                No intention of picking up fight. You neglected 22, 178 and supporting Hadith.
                                Quran is the Root in language. Its only for reference. The Quran is available in 1000+ plus languages.
                                Those who wish Allah will reveal in native language.

                                144
                                And We did not send any messenger except in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah sends astray whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.

                                434
                                And verily, it is in the Mother Language of the Book, in Our Presence, high (in dignity), full of wisdom.

                                Salam jhonsonmustafa,

                                So am I, and please read and understand the issue to our discussion (refer here) before you bring any irrelevant assertion to the existing discussion.

                                Peace brother peace

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                                  jhonsonmustafa
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                                  Peace Muslims,

                                  I am only asking one question.

                                  What English word would you replace the word "religion" with according to your understanding?

                                  If you do not have an answer why not just say so? Millions read the Quran translated in
                                  various languages, so your point is nil. Until you can come up with a better translation
                                  than the word "religion" it will stand. No offense intended.

                                  109/6 I am not calling anyone kafir, but just an example of translations.

                                  Sahih International For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."

                                  Pickthall Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.

                                  Yusuf Ali To you be your Way, and to me mine.

                                  Shakir You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.

                                  Muhammad Sarwar You follow your religion and I follow mine.

                                  Mohsin Khan "To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islamic Monotheism)."

                                  Arberry To you your religion, and to me my religion!'

                                  God bless

                                  peace

                                  Salam Brother,

                                  Correct brother, Allah reveals Quran in their native language those who wish for straight path.

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                                    muslims
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                                    What English word would you replace the word "religion" with according to your understanding?

                                    If you do not have an answer why not just say so? Millions read the Quran translated in
                                    various languages, so your point is nil. Until you can come up with a better translation
                                    than the word "religion" it will stand. No offense intended.

                                    Correct brother, Allah reveals Quran in their native language those who wish for straight path.

                                    Salam jhonsonmustafa,

                                    I believe you have misunderstood his comment.

                                    Peace brother peace

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                                      jhonsonmustafa
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                                      Objective

                                      Method

                                      Requirement

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                                      Sadaqah Objective (Self Improvement)

                                      100% (what you love) Attain righteousness
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                                      90% Attain what? futility?
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                                      80% Attain what? futility?
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                                      70% Attain what? futility?
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                                      60% Attain what? futility?
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                                      50% Attain what? futility?
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                                      40% Attain what? futility?
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                                      10% Attain what? futility?
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                                      2.5% Attain what? futility? <- Zakah

                                      Similarly...

                                      Sawm/Fast Objective (Self Improvement)
                                      (Level of starvation)
                                      100% Attain righteousness? <- Near to death experience?
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                                      90% Attain what? futility?
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                                      80% Attain what? futility?
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                                      70% Attain what? futility?
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                                      60% Attain what? futility?
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                                      50% Attain what? futility?
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                                      40% Attain what? futility?
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                                      30% Attain what? futility?
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                                      20% Attain what? futility?
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                                      10% Attain what? futility?
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                                      2.5% Attain what? futility? <- Fasting in the month of Ramadhan

                                      Peace brother,

                                      Could you please explain from Quran only.

                                      I don't want Graphic Images. I want the words of intuition from Allah.

                                      What is Ramadan ?
                                      What is Fasting?
                                      What is Hajj?
                                      Whats is Salah?

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                                        Peace brother,

                                        Could you please explain from Quran only.

                                        I don't want Graphic Images. I want the words of intuition from Allah.

                                        What is Ramadan ?
                                        What is Fasting?
                                        What is Hajj?
                                        Whats is Salah?

                                        Salam jhonsonmustafa,

                                        What am I explaining?

                                        Can you please read carefully before making any comment?

                                        Refer to the method section.

                                        Peace brother.

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                                          (refer to index)

                                          http//s11.postimg.org/hq4ht9ic3/humanunity.png

                                          Beyond Religion -> Sunnatullah

                                          Say, "O disbelievers,

                                          I do not worship what you worship <- Prostrate to God Alone, accordingly, any god/religion.
                                          Nor are you worshippers of what I worship <- Prostrate to Allah & Adam (Humanity), Sunnatullah.

                                          Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship <- Religious People & God Alone Concept.
                                          Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship <- Upright man (Muslim) - Unity, regardless of religion etc.

                                          For you is your deen <- Religion - Right or wrong - Fire Element - Sectarianism.
                                          and for me is my deen <- Deen - Unity - Sunnatullah - Justly balanced - Fire/Earth/Air/Water.
                                          (109)

                                          http//s13.postimg.org/6hprb216f/religionelement.png

                                          Ibrahim was not a Jew <- Ibrahim has no religion. So as Muhammad, not a Jew/Christian (religion).
                                          nor a Christian http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKi*MBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
                                          but he was (an) upright (man) <- showing a great concern for what is right, fair and truthful way
                                          a Muslim <- defined by the above ayat - an upright man - obedience and justly balanced.
                                          and he was not one of the polytheists <- Concern with right/wrong in religious matters - 3030-32

                                          Most surely the nearest of people to Ibrahim
                                          are those
                                          who followed him
                                          and this Prophet
                                          and those who believe
                                          and Allah is the guardian of the believers
                                          (367-6

                                          And whoever seeks a "dnan" (&#1575 other than Islam <- Religion of Islam vs. Deen of Islam
                                          it will NEVER be accepted of him
                                          and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers
                                          (385)

                                          The Qur'an confirms other books, including hadith and other religious or man made books etc.

                                          Look for similarities
                                          to unite the society
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                                          They are free to
                                          practice their deen (way of life)
                                          (unconditional freedom)
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                                          MBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
                                          (Fire/Air/Water/Earth) -> Confirmed by the Qur'an as..
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                                          +--> Torah ----------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          +--> Injeel ---------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          +--> Hadith --------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          +--> Sunni ----------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          Texts
                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          +--> Shia ------------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          Texts
                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          +--> Khawarij ------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          Texts
                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          +--> Buddhism -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          Texts
                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          +--> Confucianism +-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          Texts
                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          +--> Hinduism ------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          Texts
                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          +--> Zoroastrianism +-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          Texts
                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          Qur'an +--> Scientology +-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity
                                          Confirming --->| Texts |
                                          Book | +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity
                                          (Justly |
                                          Balanced) |
                                          +--> Atheism -------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          Text/Laws
                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          +--> Man made ----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          Laws
                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          +--> Company -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          Laws
                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          +--> Satanism -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          Texts
                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          +--> Mathematics -+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          Theory/Books
                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          +--> Sciences ------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          Theory/Books
                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          +--> Geography ---+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          Theory/Books
                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          +--> Economy ------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          Theory/Books
                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          +--> Accounting ---+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          Theory/Books
                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          +--> Computer -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          Theory/Books
                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          +--> Political --------+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          Theory/Books
                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          +--> and so on -----+-> A, B, C is justly balanced -> justly balanced to humanity

                                          Theory/Books
                                          +-> D, E, F is unjust -> unjust to humanity

                                          |
                                          |
                                          |
                                          |
                                          and so on

                                          For you is your deen
                                          (War Zone - <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335480#msg335480">God Alone</a> - Right vs. Wrong - Sectarianism)
                                          and
                                          For me is my deen
                                          (Human Unity - <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335753#msg335753">Prostrate to Adam</a> - All from Allah and "I Submit" to Justly Balanced)
                                          (<a href="http//quran.com/109/6">1096</a&gt

                                          http//s23.postimg.org/ifq2vi2rv/warzone.png

                                          Indeed, prayer prohibits immorality and wrongdoing (<a href="http//quran.com/29/45">2945</a&gt

                                          http//s13.postimg.org/f0sag5q85/solat.png

                                          Islam
                                          http//www.rba.hr/web/images/rba-arrow-small-down.gif
                                          Formula
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                                          Attributes
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                                          Understanding of Sunnatullah (Just & Balance) on the following attributes ...
                                          (How to blend these elements and creating the Planet of Earth - (<a href="http//quran.com/49/13">4913</a&gt)
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                                          +-----------------------------+-----------------------------+-----------------------------+
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                                          Fire Air Water Earth
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                                          Fire Air Water Earth
                                          South West East North
                                          Asmaullah Afaalullah Sifatullah Dzatullah
                                          Hablum Minallah Hablum Minannas Wisdom Khalif
                                          Qur'an Communication Knowledge Persistence
                                          Law / Policy Humanism Expertise Kusyu / Humble
                                          (Who is right?
                                          Who is wrong?)

                                          We can apply this formula in all aspects of our life

                                          The destructive aspect of the fire element.

                                          http//s15.postimg.org/wcikp8hwb/earth_core.jpg
                                          http//s24.postimg.org/ebh5sqdth/fire.png

                                          Stand up for what is right and wrong .. black and white. <- War zone - fire elements

                                          The world will hate Islam.

                                          Society will break apart to pieces.

                                          Stand up for what is just and balance in the society.

                                          It will bring harmony.

                                          It will unite humanity.

                                          This is Islam.

                                          = Objective of Khalif -> Manager (To understand Just and Balance - To understand Sunnatullah)
                                          = Manager -> To manage the Earth -> Negotiator, Mediator and Conciliator
                                          = To bring Balance
                                          -> Balance bring Justice
                                          -> Justice bring Harmony
                                          -> Harmony bring Security
                                          -> Security bring Happiness
                                          -> Happiness bring Love
                                          -> Love bring Satisfaction
                                          -> Satisfaction bring Alhamdulillah
                                          -> Alhamdulillah bring Fear (of losing Allah's attention/guidance etc ..
                                          as those person who are in deep love)
                                          -> Fear will motivate us to become better human being -> Khalif
                                          -> Khalif -> Reality
                                          -> Reality -> Allah
                                          = Din of Islam

                                          Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah
                                          is the most righteous of you <- justly balanced

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