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Is it zina?

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    unknownuser
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    Now i would like all of you to give an honest opinion such as Muttah marriage, since this issue came up sunni had been labeling these practices as Prostitution, eventhough sunni practices this type of marriage also(Misyar)

    Now can these be categorized as Zina? i would like your honest opinions

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      huruf
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      Muta3 is clearly prostitution when it lasta a few hours only. I wouldn't call it prostitution if it lasts two years.

      Salaam

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        unknownuser
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        Muta3 is clearly prostitution when it lasta a few hours only. I wouldn't call it prostitution if it lasts two years.

        Salaam

        If i hire a prostitute to do me for a year does that count as Mutah? I see more commitment and love in Teenage couples then those who do Mutah

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          Now i would like all of you to give an honest opinion such as Muttah marriage, since this issue came up sunni had been labeling these practices as Prostitution, eventhough sunni practices this type of marriage also(Misyar)

          Now can these be categorized as Zina? i would like your honest opinions

          If i hire a prostitute to do me for a year does that count as Mutah? I see more commitment and love in Teenage couples then those who do Mutah

          It seems like you are not interested in what The Quran says.

          See
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607700.msg373915#msg373915
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607700.msg373917#msg373917

          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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            Farabi
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            If i hire a prostitute to do me for a year does that count as Mutah? I see more commitment and love in Teenage couples then those who do Mutah

            I will agree with you in the current time. But Im thinking about our species. We wont last with such a thing. Contraseption pill changed our society.

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              unknownuser
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              It seems like you are not interested in what The Quran says.

              See
              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607700.msg373915#msg373915
              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607700.msg373917#msg373917

              Now it's not that i'm not interested in the quran, it's just that i see mutah as similar as prostitution that's all...it's even considered as Halal prostitution in Indonesia

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                Farabi
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                Now it's not that i'm not interested in the quran, it's just that i see mutah as similar as prostitution that's all...it's even considered as Halal prostitution in Indonesia

                Once was. I heard there is lot of guest on my city. But now its considered ilehgal since it was too cheap. But you can have a girlfriend as a alternative. But I bet you'll find it difficult if you have a middle east face, including israel. For now, never heard of it anymore.

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                  My question is that do the people who does Mutah poligamy simply for sexual pleasure does not deserve any punishment?
                  I know it looks like that i'm a little pissed off, i'm not desperately trying to prove sex with a gf is permissable or anything but... it's just that this type of people who does misyar and mutah feels like they're taking advantage of god's law with their money(dowry) that's just how i feel.

                  How do you feel if your buddy does a temporary poligamy marriage for sex and he said to your face "Don't worry man it's all halal i follow the instructions in the quran"

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                    huruf
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                    Is it forbidden anywhere in the Qur'an to marry a former prostitute? No. But if you take her as a prostitute and tell her that you take her as wife, obviously you are sinning but not her.

                    Salaam

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                      My question is that do the people who does Mutah poligamy simply for sexual pleasure does not deserve any punishment?
                      I know it looks like that i'm a little pissed off, i'm not desperately trying to prove sex with a gf is permissable or anything but... it's just that this type of people who does misyar and mutah feels like they're taking advantage of god's law with their money(dowry) that's just how i feel.

                      How do you feel if your buddy does a temporary poligamy marriage for sex and he said to your face "Don't worry man it's all halal i follow the instructions in the quran"

                      We are judged by our intentions, one may fool all of mankind but not Allah.

                      God bless

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                        Is it forbidden anywhere in the Qur'an to marry a former prostitute? No. But if you take her as a prostitute and tell her that you take her as wife, obviously you are sinning but not her.

                        Salaam

                        But the guy paid the dowry and had a permission from her family right? He followed the procedure in the quran how does that count as sinning from your perspective? Is it so hard to determine if that person is committing fornication or not that it needs 4 witness in the quran? why not just 1 person who saw the whole thing?

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                          huruf
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                          You must know what you want. Either you are interested in being good or on not being caught. You decide.

                          Salaam

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                            unknownuser
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                            You must know what you want. Either you are interested in being good or on not being caught. You decide.

                            Salaam

                            In being good or on not being caught? please explain what you mean by this statement i'm talking about temporary marriages here, not banging someone in secret or being caught doing it

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                              Wakas
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                              Are you interested in what Quran says?

                              But the guy paid the dowry and had a permission from her family right? He followed the procedure in the quran...

                              Fail
                              Understanding and mutual acceptance of marriage as a solemn/strong oath/contract

                              Thus, to answer your question for the specific case of "temporary marriage", there would be no punishment in this life but there may well be in the next life.

                              I recommend reading The Quran.

                              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                huruf
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                                In being good or on not being caught? please explain what you mean by this statement i'm talking about temporary marriages here, not banging someone in secret or being caught doing it

                                YOu must know whether you are wanting to have a prostitute or a wife. It is up to your design.

                                Salaam

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                                  unknownuser
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                                  Peace kamenriderkiki,

                                  I think that the Quran does not support sex before marriage. And loving eachother does not count as marriage, in my opinion. Besides, marriage consists of giving a dowry.

                                  Love and compassion is one of the requirements though

                                  "3021 From His signs is that He created for you mates from yourselves that you may reside with them, and He placed between you affection and compassion. In that are signs for a people who reflect"

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                                    unknownuser
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                                    Are you interested in what Quran says?

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                                    Understanding and mutual acceptance of marriage as a solemn/strong oath/contract

                                    Just because i have doubts and a different perspective of what marriage really is doesn't mean i Fail by your standards & judgement

                                    I recommend reading The Quran.

                                    I do

                                    Are you interested in what Quran says?

                                    If not then i wouldn't be here

                                    Thus, to answer your question for the specific case of "temporary marriage", there would be no punishment in this life but there may well be in the next life.

                                    Ditto

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                                      unknownuser
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                                      Since the quran is designed to evolve with culture and time, i have doubts about Sex with GF is zina since they swore an oath(not to bang someone else on their back), accepted by both parents and financially support each other and their relationship isn't arranged and forced that which falls in the category of unlawful like some legal arranged marriage.

                                      Any thoughts about this ? I think adultery is to be labelled for someone who cheats or sexual intercourse with other than that person's GF

                                      If you agree tell your reasons why, and if you disagree please state your reason also sun

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                                        reel
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                                        they swore an oath(not to bang someone else on their back), accepted by both parents and financially support each other and their relationship isn't arranged and forced that which falls in the category of unlawful like some legal arranged marriage.

                                        Isn't this a description of marriage?

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                                          unknownuser
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                                          Isn't this a description of marriage?

                                          Yeah it's similar to today's marriage that we all know so i don't really see much of a difference between a GF/BF relationship and today's marriage both of them are the same in my opinion just different names

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