The Paris massacre - Silence as always
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Invalid777
You Should know that God Does not.make mistakes.
"We did not leave anything out of the book" 638
If you accept to the above verse, continue to read ;
"We have cited in this Quran every example for the people, yet the human being is most argumentative." 1854
You say if one is disabled? How do you mean? All people take showers and if someone can not do it then someone helps with these acts. I don't get you, you seem to think that it would impossible which is false.
"You shall recite what is revealed to you of the book and observe the Salat, for the Salat prohibits vice and evil and the remembrance of God is the most important. God knows what you do." 2945
"O you who believe, do not approach the Salat while intoxicated, until you know what you are saying." 443
God is great!
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Invalid777
You Should know that God Does not.make mistakes.
"We did not leave anything out of the book" 638
If you accept to the above verse, continue to read ;
"We have cited in this Quran every example for the people, yet the human being is most argumentative." 1854
You say if one is disabled? How do you mean? All people take showers and if someone can not do it then someone helps with these acts. I don't get you, you seem to think that it would impossible which is false.
"You shall recite what is revealed to you of the book and observe the Salat, for the Salat prohibits vice and evil and the remembrance of God is the most important. God knows what you do." 2945
"O you who believe, do not approach the Salat while intoxicated, until you know what you are saying." 443
God is great!
Of course Allah doesn't make mistakes. Ask yourself why you're given an interpretation that gives you a step-by-step guide on performing a nameless ritual while no such detailed explanation is given for salat. Ask yourself how there's no mention of disabled people regarding this nameless cleaning ritual but exceptions are made for salat when your mind is intoxicated. And what on earth has rubbing soil got to do with this so called cleaning ritual? Why is no name given to it? Please rub some soil on your face and tell me if it makes your face shine clean.
http//i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/06/18/09/29BAFA5C00000578-0-image-a-2_1434614489006.jpg
This is Nick, he was born without limbs. According to 56 he should wash his face, arms, head and legs. Quran give no details on how disabled people are to perform this cleaning ritual. How is Nick going to follow the interpretation of verse 56 since it tells you to perform it before rising for salat?
You only need to be sane. No limbs are required to perform salat. This voids the interpretation of verse 56. -
Does it say wash your face with your own hands?
"O you who have believed, when you rise to prayer, wash your faces and your forearms to the elbows and wipe over your heads and wash your feet to the ankles. And if you are in a state of janabah, then purify yourselves. But if you are ill or on a journey or one of you comes from the place of relieving himself or you have contacted women and do not find water, then seek clean earth and wipe over your faces and hands with it. Allah does not intend to make difficulty for you, but He intends to purify you and complete His favor upon you that you may be grateful" 56
Nick does not have forearms, elbows or feet. Nick is therefore deprived from performing salat since you MUST have forearms, elbows and feet to perform this nameless cleaning ritual before rising for salat. There is no mention of physically disabled people when it comes to salat in the Quran. Quran only talks of having a functioning mind so you know what you're saying.
"O you who believe, do not approach the Salat while intoxicated, until you know what you are saying." 443
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?Not equal are those of the believers who sit , except those who are disabled, and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives.? (495)
?no person shall have a burden laid on him greater than he can bear? (2286).
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Invalid777 you say this " And what on earth has rubbing soil got to do with this so called cleaning ritual? Why is no name given to it? Please rub some soil on your face and tell me if it makes your face shine clean."
Maybe here lies your answer http//www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2646748/Hogwash-Yes-Meet-man-showered-12-years-instead-sprays-bacteria-hes-collected-pigsty-cowshed-chicken-coop-clean.html
and to be more precise"For the last 12 years he has sprayed himself with AOB that he has collected from soil in the pigsty, cowshed and chicken coop of an organic farm."
Peace.
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?Not equal are those of the believers who sit , except those who are disabled, and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives.? (495)
?no person shall have a burden laid on him greater than he can bear? (2286).
Verse 495 has nothing to do with salat or the nameless cleaning rituals. Provide a verse telling disable people on how to perform "wudu" or a physical salat for people like Nick. Every human with a sound mind can perform salat. Verse 56 contradicts this. Nick needs limbs to perform "wudu" and a physical salat.
If verse 56 is true, then it directly contradicts 2286. Nick is told by 56 to wash is arms, elbows and feet. Nick also needs limbs to perform a physical ritual called salat and not just a sound and functioning mind. Quran provides NO EXPLANATION on how disabled people perform the nameless cleaning ritual and physical salat.
This can only mean two things. Either the interpretation of 56 is false or disabled people are deprived from performing "wudu" and a physical salat. There isn't even a detailed explanation on how to perform a physical salat for healthy individuals in the Quran.Allah is fair and just. Allah gives every human, disabled or not, the ability to do salat. Salat is not a physical ritual. Everyone can do it, anytime and anywhere.
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Invalid777 you say this " And what on earth has rubbing soil got to do with this so called cleaning ritual? Why is no name given to it? Please rub some soil on your face and tell me if it makes your face shine clean."
Maybe here lies your answer http//www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2646748/Hogwash-Yes-Meet-man-showered-12-years-instead-sprays-bacteria-hes-collected-pigsty-cowshed-chicken-coop-clean.html
and to be more precise"For the last 12 years he has sprayed himself with AOB that he has collected from soil in the pigsty, cowshed and chicken coop of an organic farm."
Peace.
Here's a challenge mmmm. Since you strongly support the interpretation of 56. Go out, grab a handful of soil, wipe it on your face and tell me how clean your face will shine.
http//www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Tough+Bloke+Challenge+QNbjgU7xQjHl.jpgThis man looks clean, doesn't he?
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Here's a challenge mmmm. Since you strongly support the interpretation of 56. Go out, grab a handful of soil, wipe it on your face and tell me how clean your face will shine.
http//www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Tough+Bloke+Challenge+QNbjgU7xQjHl.jpgThis man looks clean, doesn't he?
Tayammum is a DRY ablution brother. Your analogy of this guy with mud over his face isn't accurate. Even animals can clean themselves effectively using dry sand.
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Tayammum is a DRY ablution brother. Your analogy of this guy with mud over his face isn't accurate. Even animals can clean themselves effectively using dry sand.
Where can I find dry sand here in London? New York? Alaska? Quran is a guide for every human. Not just someone living in the Middle East or in a beach.
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There's plenty of dry earth abound in London and New York what you talking about bro.
http//i.imgur.com/9PQBA3A.jpg
Britain is over two thirds Inceptisols. This is what it looks like.
http//www.cals.uidaho.edu/soilorders/i/Alf_02b.jpgAnd this is what beach sand looks like in Britain.
https//www.travelnation.co.uk/sites/default/files/styles/780x520/public/brighton_beach_turns_to_sand2.jpg?itok=S3q7VcJmUnless you live near a beach, there's no way you can clean yourself with dry earth. The soil here does NOT clean you. It makes you dirtier, not cleaner. Unless of course, you want to look like a tramp.
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Hello,
Supposedly you can find dry sand to use to wipe a surface of the body in order to remove dirt, but I wonder about its deeper cleansing properties?
Even if you are careful, does it not leave particles of dirt (the sand) on your skin?
Ah well, everything people do to defend some silly rituals.
Be safe
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But at least middle eastern people is also not excluded from the Qur'an are they?
And sand, after water is not such scarce commodity aftera all anywhere.
Salaam
The same scum who hijacked the Quran came from that part of the world. Every interpretation of the Quran seems to go their way. It's no wonder it tells you to wipe dry soil to clean yourself. Dry soil isn't available everywhere. Every human should move to a beach or the Middle East.
Also, the stone cube in Mecca. Imagine living in Hawaii in the 7th century and being told to go for hajj. You'd die before you even reached Mecca. Yet we're told that Allah doesn't wish hardship on us. Quran only seems to benefit Middle Easterners.
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Also, the stone cube in Mecca. Imagine living in Hawaii in the 7th century and being told to go for hajj. You'd die before you even reached Mecca. Yet we're told that Allah doesn't wish hardship on us. Quran only seems to benefit Middle Easterners.
Back then, the middle easterners doesn't even aware that Hawaii or even pacific ocean exist )
They didn't even aware the entire size of the earth, they think the earth is flat.
If they do, they will address that properly and wrote more careful and properly well thought verses when they were compiling the Quran. -
If they do, they will address that properly and wrote more careful and properly well thought verses when they were compiling the Quran.
Or they do not even write anything but just say the verses say something else instead, like they did the first time.
Be safe
Amenuel