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    Roots

    The language of Grand Qur?n is Arabic language of the exalted universal Messenger-Spokesperson of Allah the Supreme Sovereign, and of sons of soil of Arabian peninsula.

    Arabic words, nouns and verbs, stem from Roots. Root is a cluster of three, in some cases four or rare five, consonants of Alphabet placed in a peculiar sequence. Out of 29 letters of Arabic alphabet, Aleph is not a consonant since it has no sound, hence it is never the part of a Root. All 28 consonants may function as root radicals. However, there are no roots with identical consonants in the first and second position while at the second and third position radicals of a root can be the same consonant. Such roots are termed geminate roots.

    Though a combination of three unique consonants can constitute six Roots, for example consonants

    , and make these Roots - - - - - ; the Roots are determined and fixed. No new Root can be structured.

    Roots are comparable to proper names as both are with unique semantic reference. However, there is a profound difference between proper names and roots. The former designate identifiable entities with real existence, whereas root is pure abstraction. The root is the common element shared by its derivatives.

    The Root has specific, defined, distinct, conspicuous and apparent concept, phenomenon, perception and signification folded in it. It is the source, the reservoir of knowledge. Roots can be termed as "repertory of frames" of Arabic language if we follow frames approach to semantic analysis.

    The amazing fact about the Roots of Arabic is that the perception infolded in them is reflective of physical?scientific realities pertaining both to matter and life. They seem as if they are the baseline for scientific study and investigation.

    For semantics, Root is like the first of trinucleotide sequence of anticodon. It is well know that vocabulary is of vital importance in language study because it is the essence of a language. Linguist D. A. Wilkins (1972) has the famous line "Without grammar very little can be conveyed, without vocabulary nothing can be conveyed. (p.11)".

    That book is conveniently understandable which uses minimum vocabulary of the language. The entire vocabulary of Grand Qur?n, nouns and verbs, stems from just 1646 Roots. Therefore, at preliminary stage, we should feel pleased that learning the skill for real-time translation of Qur?n is rendered facilitative by the use of a small part of otherwise large vocabulary of Arabic in its discourse. If we merely run through the basic perception infolded in these Roots, we will gain a fairly good understanding of meanings of the words of Grand Qur?n, even before learning the meanings added by other features of the language; morphology and syntax.

    Classical tradition employs the word Root, but in reality, the concept resembles exactly to a "seed" which is either monocotyledon or dicotyledonous and contains the DNA to sprout and grow into a plant in a specific environment. "Seeds" of Arabic language have distinction of monocotyledon-nominal and dicotyledonous-verbal. Unique assemblage and sequencing of consonants is like a DNA that encodes complete tree of a unique concept-field of understanding which "germinates" in specific environment.

    http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/intro.htm

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      You may find the Amharic/Ethiopic - English Dictionary by TO Kane (OTTO HARRASSOWITZ, WIESBADEN, GERMANY, 1990) very interesting with regard to root words in the Al Quran. Unfortunately, for easy and efficient use of the dictionary, you may to work with someone who speaks Ethiopic/Amharic.

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        Salam/Peace everyone. This is a post i have been thinking about after having a discussion with brother Wakas.

        Suggestions, Errors and missing meanings for PRL (Project Root-List).

        Suggestions Any suggestions that can help PRL for grammatical linguistic aid for those who do not speak or know arabic, especially Classical Arabic/Quranic Arabic. Like adding Classical Arabic Lexicons to PRL.

        EXAMPLE
        Classical Arabic Lexicons
        Maqayis Al-Lugha
        Kitab Al-Ayn
        Sihah Fi Al-Lugha

        Errors None for now. Report any error to Wakas or anyone who worked with PRL. Not me ;D, just a helper.

        Missing meanings.
        Nahl Bee (Fixed)
        Imraatun Woman/Woman, Wife (Fixed)

        I hope this post will be pinned. This could help others who use PRL for studying Qur'an.

        Report any errors or missing meanings and leave suggestions for this post about PRL - Project Root List. Salamun Alaykum/Peace be upon you & Allah/God (SWTAY) bless you & your family! group group group

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          Salam/Peace everyone. This is a post i have been thinking about after having a discussion with brother Wakas.

          Suggestions, Errors and missing meanings for PRL (Project Root-List).

          Suggestions Any suggestions that can help PRL for grammatical linguistic aid for those who do not speak or know arabic, especially Classical Arabic/Quranic Arabic. Like adding Classical Arabic Lexicons to PRL.

          EXAMPLE
          Classical Arabic Lexicons
          Maqayis Al-Lugha
          Kitab Al-Ayn
          Sihah Fi Al-Lugha

          Errors None for now. Report any error to Wakas or anyone who worked with PRL. Not me ;D, just a helper.

          Missing meanings.
          Nahl Bee (Fixed)
          Imraatun Woman/Woman, Wife (Fixed)

          I hope this post will be pinned. This could help others who use PRL for studying Qur'an.

          Report any errors or missing meanings and leave suggestions for this post about PRL - Project Root List. Salamun Alaykum/Peace be upon you & Allah/God (SWTAY) bless you & your family! group group group

          Salam/Peace everyone. I may have found one. The root word Kulli or Kullun (&#1604 is Kaf-Lam-Lam or Kll which i got the info from Quranix.org. But in PRL it says

          Kaf-Lam-Lam = To lose father and child, lose direct heirs, be weary, tired, weak, have only remote relations.

          kalla vb. (1) n.vb. 1676

          kalalah n.f. 412, 4176

          LL, V8, p 256 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=kll

          Could someone have a look at this?

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            Salam/Peace everyone. I may have found one. The root word Kulli or Kullun (&#1604 is Kaf-Lam-Lam or Kll which i got the info from Quranix.org. But in PRL it says

            Kaf-Lam-Lam = To lose father and child, lose direct heirs, be weary, tired, weak, have only remote relations.

            kalla vb. (1) n.vb. 1676

            kalalah n.f. 412, 4176

            LL, V8, p 256 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=kll

            Could someone have a look at this?

            Salamun alaikum.

            You raise few delicate issues, they are delicate only because of confusion spread by some scholars; otherwise it was simple and plain.

            Root

            Ibn Faris stated

            ( &#1577

            .

            .

            , .

            That firstly it leads to the perception opposite to loneness, solitary; secondly signifies surrounding, circling a thing by another, and thirdly an organ as part of organs. The first perception is that of all, subtotal.

            And that signifies the sword by itself, whole, solitary; and likewise signifies as verbal noun a state of one being all by himself, solitary, whole

            Some secondary ideas, such as those of the whole, the part, the like, and the different, which are usually designated in English by adjectives, prepositions, or compound words, are expressed in Arabic by substantives, taking the primary substantives, to which they are attached, in the genitive, such as http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/Tabweeb/00090.%20a%20Kull%20Kaaf%20Laam%20Laam/4.gif It is always in construct.
            When used elliptically-extremely concise in writing, it always has the "nunation of compensation"

            When the first radical is accusative it refers to whole entity - all by himself/itself ? http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/Tabweeb/00090.%20a%20Kull%20Kaaf%20Laam%20Laam/19.gif Noun/Quasi Active participle Singular, masculine; nominative; and http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/Tabweeb/00090.%20a%20Kull%20Kaaf%20Laam%20Laam/12.gif Verbal Noun Indefinite; accusative, referring to a person who is not only all by himself but in biological relationship also has only one surviving parent and may have only one son.

            http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/(1270).htm

            For detailed analysis of http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/Tabweeb/00090.%20a%20Kull%20Kaaf%20Laam%20Laam/12.gif please read here

            http//haqeeqat.pk/Economics-Inheritance.htm

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              Peace all, Salam Aleikum everyone.

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                Salam/Peace.

                It seems there is a root word that is missing it's meaning in PRL

                Nun-Kaf-Lam =

                ankal n.m. (pl. of nikl) 7312

                nakal n.m. 266, 538, 7925

                nakkala vb. (2) n.vb. 484

                Lane's Lexicon, Volume 8, pages 292 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=nkl

                No meaning is sighted sadly.

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                  Root

                  Words from this Root in the Grand Qur?n

                  a) Total occurrences 5

                  b) No of constructions 4 All Nouns

                  Ibn Faris stated

                  ( &#1577

                  That it leads to the perception of preventing, barring, restraining, hindering.

                  http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/(1501).htm

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                    Sorted now.

                    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                      In Ba-Ayn-Dal, there is a derivative of the root word ba`da (&#1583, this derivative i found in 456 is a accusative time adverb and it seems to be missing it's meaning in PRL

                      Ba-Ayn-Dal = becoming distant, remote, far off, aloof or far away, removed, retired, withdrew to a distance, alienated, estranged, wide separation, great distance. Possessing judgment and prudence, penetrating, effective judgment, depth or far reaching judgment. Go or going a great length or far in hostility.

                      ba'uda vb. (1)
                      perf. act. 942, ba'ida 1195
                      n.vb. 1144, 1160, 1168, 1195, 2341, 2344, 4338

                      ba'id n.m. 2176, 330, 460, 4116, 4136, 4167, 1183, 1189, 143, 1418, 21109, 2212, 2253, 2512, 2722, 348, 3452, 3453, 4144, 4152, 4218, 503, 5027, 5031, 706

                      ba'ada vb. (3) impv. 3419

                      ab'ada vb. (4) pcple. pass. 21101

                      LL, V1, p 261, 262, 263 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=b3d

                      Look at Lane's Lexicon Volume 1 Page 262

                      http//ejtaal.net/aa/img/ll/2/ll-0262.png

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                        In Ba-Ayn-Dal, there is a derivative of the root word ba`da (&#1583, this derivative i found in 456 is a accusative time adverb and it seems to be missing it's meaning in PRL

                        Ba-Ayn-Dal = becoming distant, remote, far off, aloof or far away, removed, retired, withdrew to a distance, alienated, estranged, wide separation, great distance. Possessing judgment and prudence, penetrating, effective judgment, depth or far reaching judgment. Go or going a great length or far in hostility.

                        ba'uda vb. (1)
                        perf. act. 942, ba'ida 1195
                        n.vb. 1144, 1160, 1168, 1195, 2341, 2344, 4338

                        ba'id n.m. 2176, 330, 460, 4116, 4136, 4167, 1183, 1189, 143, 1418, 21109, 2212, 2253, 2512, 2722, 348, 3452, 3453, 4144, 4152, 4218, 503, 5027, 5031, 706

                        ba'ada vb. (3) impv. 3419

                        ab'ada vb. (4) pcple. pass. 21101

                        LL, V1, p 261, 262, 263 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=b3d

                        Look at Lane's Lexicon Volume 1 Page 262

                        http//ejtaal.net/aa/img/ll/2/ll-0262.png

                        http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.027/03.%20Baad%20Ba%20Ain%20Daal/3.gif

                        (1)2120(2)2164(3)2178(4)2181(5)2259(6)308(7)380( 382(9)386(10)390(11)3100(12)3106 (13)4165(14)512(15)532(16)594(17)5108(1668(1)671 (20)756(21)785(22)789(23)806(24)928 (25)966(26)974(27)9115(21032(29)1110(30)1245(31)1337(32)1665(33)1670(34)1691(35) 1694(36)2157(37)2315(32455(39)2529(40)2711(41)2887(42) 3019(43)3024(44)3050(45)3432 (46)3509(47)3888(44241(49)4505(50)4506(51)4911(52)5717(53)6501(54)6507(55)6604(56) 6813(57)7930=57

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                        Red is NOT a phrase. The second element of is elided since in the context it is explicit. after having reached them the Hadith of Allah and His verbal passages.

                        Root

                        Words from this Root in the Grand Qur?n

                        a) Total occurrences 235

                        b) No of constructions 28

                        It occurs in 221 Ayahs in 56 Sura.

                        Nouns 25 Recurrence 232 Verbs 3

                        . .

                        That it is contra. of nearness and proximity; and opposite to before, earlier; and annihilation.

                        Semantic domain Time-frame ? Later

                        http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/(121).htm

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                          Salam/Peace. I have noticed something in 594

                          594
                          Thalika bi-annahum shaqqoo Allahawarasoolahu waman yushaqqi Allaha fa-inna Allahashadeedu alAAiqabi
                          This is because they challenged God and His messenger. And whoever challenges God, then God is severe in punishment.

                          Now in the red is shaqqoo (&#1575 & yushaqqi (&#1602 and i happened to check the root word and none of it in PRL mention challange

                          Shiin-Qaf-Qaf = pass along the way, cross, open a way/passage/vent/channel, cut/split/divided/clave/ripped/tore.

                          shaqqa vb. (1)
                          perf. act. 8026
                          impf. act. 2827
                          n.vb. 8026
                          pcple. act. 1334

                          shiqq n.m. 167

                          shuqqah n.f. 942

                          shaqqa vb. (3)
                          perf. act. 813, 4732, 594
                          impf. act. 4115, 813, 1627, 594
                          n.vb. 2137, 2176, 435, 1189, 2253, 382, 4152

                          tashaqqaqa vb. (5) impf. act. 274, 2525, 5044

                          inshaqqa vb. (7)
                          perf. act. 541, 5537, 6916, 841
                          impf. act. 1990

                          LL, V4, p 299, 300, 301, 302, 303 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=shqq

                          I also check Lane's Lexicon and i think did find something like in http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume4/00000300.pdf

                          You can check the pages of Shiin-Qaf-Qaf in Lane's Lexicon if i missed something

                          http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume4/00000299.pdf

                          http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume4/00000300.pdf

                          http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume4/00000301.pdf

                          http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume4/00000301.pdf

                          http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume4/00000302.pdf

                          http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume4/00000303.pdf

                          I dont know if it's really a mistranslation or something. Hoping you could me in this linguistic issue since my Quranic Arabic is lacking.

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                            Peace The Sardar
                            Sometimes we try the different meanings of the root words and see if it fits the sentence and the context translation
                            Challenged, opposed,...etc these words also have the same meaning in the context of 594.
                            My understanding.
                            GOD bless you.
                            Peace.

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                              Peace The Sardar
                              Sometimes we try the different meanings of the root words and see if it fits the sentence and the context translation
                              Challenged, opposed,...etc these words also have the same meaning in the context of 594.
                              My understanding.
                              GOD bless you.
                              Peace.

                              It could work if it fits the root definition brother. Salam/Peace.

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                                It could work if it fits the root definition brother. Salam/Peace.

                                Root

                                Words from this Root in the Grand Qur?n

                                a) Total occurrences 28

                                b) No of constructions 20

                                Nouns 8; Recurrence 11 Verb 12; Recurrence 17

                                Ibn Faris stated

                                ( &#1577

                                . .

                                That it leads to the perception of rift, cleave. fissure, breakdown happening in a thing.

                                http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/(76.htm

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                                  Root

                                  Words from this Root in the Grand Qur?n

                                  a) Total occurrences 28

                                  b) No of constructions 20

                                  Nouns 8; Recurrence 11 Verb 12; Recurrence 17

                                  Ibn Faris stated

                                  ( &#1577

                                  . .

                                  That it leads to the perception of rift, cleave. fissure, breakdown happening in a thing.

                                  http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/(76.htm

                                  Okay so it depends on the situation then. Like in 591-4

                                  I shall place the arabic text of 591-4

                                  591
                                  Sabbaha lillahi ma fee alssamawatiwama fee al-ardi wahuwa alAAazeezu alhakeemu

                                  592
                                  Huwa allathee akhraja allatheenakafaroo min ahli alkitabi min diyarihim li-awwalialhashri ma thanantum an yakhrujoo wathannooannahum maniAAatuhum husoonuhum mina Allahifaatahumu Allahu min haythu lam yahtasiboowaqathafa fee quloobihimu alrruAAba yukhriboonabuyootahum bi-aydeehim waaydee almu/mineena faiAAtabiroo yaolee al-absari

                                  593
                                  Walawla an kataba AllahuAAalayhimu aljalaa laAAaththabahum fee alddunyawalahum fee al-akhirati AAathabu alnnari

                                  594
                                  Thalika bi-annahum shaqqoo Allahawarasoolahu waman yushaqqi Allaha fa-inna Allahashadeedu alAAiqabi

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                                    Salam!

                                    I am confused about the below word

                                    (867) the word (asra) is derived from the root
                                    (171) the word (asra) is derived from the root

                                    How is it possible that a word have two different roots with different meanings? Is there any other example?

                                    Peace!

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                                      http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/059.%20Al%20Hashr/59.4a.gif

                                      This dependent clause occurs twice, once in 813 and 594

                                      Verbal sentence http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.074/2.%20Shaqaq%20Sheen%20Qaaf%20Qaaf/6.gif Verb Perfect; third person; plural; masculine. ; Subject Pronoun, in nominative state; - Verbal noun

                                      The Form-III structure of Verb is always transitive and will always have a trans-formative meanings, causative to be noun/active participle.

                                      This is because they wilfully kept alienated from Allah and His Messenger

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                                        Salam!

                                        I am confused about the below word

                                        (867) the word (asra) is derived from the root
                                        (171) the word (asra) is derived from the root

                                        How is it possible that a word have two different roots with different meanings? Is there any other example?

                                        Peace!

                                        http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.085/302.%20Asara%20Hamza%20Seen%20Ra/2.gif Noun Indefinite; broken plural; feminine; nominative. Root Singular http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.085/302.%20Asara%20Hamza%20Seen%20Ra/5.gif a prisoner

                                        http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/09.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Sura%20011/13.%20FaAsre%20Seen%20Ra%20Ya/2.gif Verb Perfect; Third Person; Singular; Masculine; ; Subject pronoun hidden; - Verbal noun. (1)1701=1

                                        The Infinitely Glorious, Allah the Exalted, is the focus of all effort. He the Exalted had arranged the travel carrying His sincere Allegiant (Muhammad [Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam) for journey; during some part of night?
                                        1701

                                        An example but from same Root

                                        http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/Tabweeb/2.22%20095%20Binaan/10.gif
                                        Noun definite; singular; masculine; genitive. (1)2215(2)436(3)546(4)578(5)841(6) 960(7)3307(5727(9)5907=9
                                        http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/Tabweeb/2.22%20095%20Binaan/10p.gif Verb Imperative; Second person; singular; masculine; last weak consonant elided; Subject pronoun hidden; - Verbal noun. (1)4036(2)6611=2

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                                          Salam Dear Mazhar!

                                          You say that is a noun. and is its plural. Then what type of words are , , , etc.? Plural words? what is the rule here?
                                          You say that is a verb. On what wazn? what are determiners to identify a verb and a noun in Arabic?

                                          means son as a noun. You cannot show example of its use as a verb. (to follow, to praise = &#1606 are different than .

                                          I bet that no one can tell any difference between and but you can... wow!
                                          I would just say that the seeing will be questioned.

                                          Peace!

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