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The salat Ritual..Where does it come from..

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    phoenix1
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    What are you guys talking about???

    If you reject the hadith, to follow the Quran ALONE, then reject everything else. Even the Quran FORBIDS any other source of Islamic knowledge. It is just as idiotic to follow the torah, or injeel, or bible, as it is to follow the hadith blindly. And it'll land you a free pass to hell, as the Quran says.

    And the Quran hasnt been changed. Allah has protected the Quran from that. It does have minor (very) changes like a few letters. But the message has remained the Same. The other books have been altered by the people. Those books arent to be trusted. That was the whole purpose of the Quran in the first place.

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      unknownuser
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      Assalamu alaikum

      I dont know much about the earlier scriptures, but how can u read them in purpose of guidance if u dont know whats the words of God in it and whats been changed?

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        unknownuser
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        Peace be upon you all,

        As with any book, we must verify what we read. Take your focus out of books ad place it on Al Kitab (Divine law), the only important book.

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          Jaxal
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          SaLaM Amatuallah

          Your name reminds me of a friend i had. Very intelligent. Had big things planned for her life. An awesome person

          Ok, to your question. When i read the Torah, i try to verify what i read. The truth is repeated in all the scriptures of God. The more you do this, the better and easy it becomes for you to spot the BS from the guidence.

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            unknownuser
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            Alaikum assalaam)

            Jaxal wrote

            When i read the Torah, i try to verify what i read. The truth is repeated in all the scriptures of God. The more you do this, the better and easy it becomes for you to spot the BS from the guidence.

            Even though the truth is repeated, how can we know that these words are really the words of God? The earlier sciptures has been corrupted so even the words which match with the meaning of quran can have been changed alittle maybe..? I cant see any meaning to seek guidance from any other scriptures than quran.

            Salaam

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              Jaxal
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              SaLaM amatuallah

              But Quran is corrupted as well! IT has been changed and altered.

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                unknownuser
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                Peace be upon you ,

                Al Kitaab, the universal Law, is never altered.

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                  Jaxal
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                  SaLaM Idolfree

                  Brother which kitab would that be?

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                    unknownuser
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                    Peace be upon you Jaxal,

                    That would be THE Kitaab, whose signs are from the horizons to within our minds/spirits(nafs).

                    We cannot go wrong when we deal with objective verificaton.

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                      Jaxal
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                      SaLaM idolfree

                      Forgive me brother, for the answer still eludes my grasp. I know you are not talking about the Quran, Torah or Gospel. So what is the name of this book? Surely its not called "Al-Kitab".

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                        unknownuser
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                        Peace be upon you,

                        It is a book that is above names. Names are only needed to seperate on thing from the other, but this book "leaves nothing out" and is "fully detailed". It has no name, just like the God, who only has attributes.

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                          unknownuser
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                          Assalamu alaikum

                          Thats true, there are different mushafs (scriptures, books) but the quran can never be changed. So which mushaf do u believe in, how can u know which mushaf is the right one?

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                            Jaxal
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                            SaLaM Amatuallah

                            No no. Im not talking about different mushafs. I mean, that alone should be an indication of how Quran has been altered. Do you think that is how the Quran was written? in different mushafs? I dont think so. It was written in one dialect. But even leaving that aside, words have been aded to the Quran. There is a topic here called "How authentic is the Quran". Have a read through it. It also provides evidence for you to see yourself.

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                              unknownuser
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                              Alaikum assalaam
                              No i dont think so. I think people have changed the real one into different mushafs. But there is one real, and Gods words can never change. I will read it, in sha Allah. Barak Allahu fik.

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                                Jaxal
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                                SaLaM Amatuallah

                                Ok tell me. What is your defination of 'altered' or 'changed' or 'corrupt'.

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