Why do so many Quran Aloners still use the term "Allah"
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Peace "Leena"
Salam,
It may be the same reason you started your post with "Salam"
JK- Thankyou for reminding me. That was actually a habit which im letting go off from now. From now on i shall use the term "peace".
-- Allah is a common word in the English language, most everyone knows what it means, just like Salam. Whatever negative connotations are applied to the word by a person who hears it are (hopefully) not intended.
JK- It's not only the -ve connotations. We are making the term "Allah" into a proper noun thus giving the impression that we have a personal god which is false. We should use the appropriate term for GOD in the language which we are speaking.
If you believe Allah is God and vice versa, there should be no problem with using either word. Along with salam, Koran/Quran, these are all commonly understood, and especially so among Muslims.
JK- It doesnt matter what i believe or not as ive stated above. As for the word "Quran" that i believe is different since here we are talking about the name of a book. We have to refer to a particular book somehow and Quran is the usual way. Other alternatives may be suggested though. GOD Bless!
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Hi all,
I've noticed that many who claim to believe in Quran Alone on this forum still use the Arabic term "Allah" instead of "GOD" whilst debating or writing a post in English. I dont understand this. Why do you insist on using an Arabic term which confuses many of the people and leads the vast majority of the west to the conclusion that we too are fundamental hadith "islamics" and terrorists? I suggest you refrain from doing so and use the English term "GOD".
First, Personally speaking, I wont call myself 'Quran alone'. I am a muslim who believes in one God.
Second, I do tend to use the word ''Allah'', to refer to God, when I speak to fellow muslims in any language (who would know what Allah means).
And when I converse with nonmuslims, I use the word ''God''.I dont think using the word ''Allah'' would mean we are either hadeeth believers or terrorists. There is no reasoning to that. Those are seperate actions which some people do, and which in reality has nothing to do with ''Allah''.
Peace!
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Hi all,
I say let people speak the way they want to speak.
I agree. There is no 'this is what u should do' to it. Its a personal choice.
Peace!
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Salam,
I've noticed that many who claim to believe in Quran Alone on this forum still use the Arabic term "Allah" instead of "GOD" whilst debating or writing a post in English. I dont understand this. Why do you insist on using an Arabic term which confuses many of the people and leads the vast majority of the west to the conclusion that we too are fundamental hadith "islamics" and terrorists? I suggest you refrain from doing so and use the English term "GOD". GOD Bless!Peace jonny
with my respect bro, this is very rediculous by you and has no merit
Salam
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Bro Jonny
I wonder why you used the greeting Salam at the start of your comment?
since we are in an english forum, shouldn't it be Peace or Hello?
Salam
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Peace bro "AB",
Bro Jonny
I wonder why you used the greeting Salam at the start of your comment?
since we are in an english forum, shouldn't it be Peace or Hello?
Salam
JK- Yep you are right and i admitted my mistake. From now on i shall use "Peace" at the start of my posts. Thanks for the reminder. ) GOD Bless!
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Peace be upon you,
There is no compulsion in the God's order.
I do however truly believe that when speaking a certain language that you should translate all words. From my own personal experience, when I started to translate everything, I gained vast understanding.
Also, make sure the words that are already translated by traditional "scholars" is correct, like the term "angel" which has no place in this message.
In conclusion, there is no compulsion, just expressing how much it has helped me.
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JK- You should know that the Arabic Bible also uses the term "Allah" which is translated from "elyhim" and in English "God" or "GOD". The term "GOD" with all caps or even "God" cannot be modified. It is the one with small "g" that can be. GOD Bless!
Strange to see you even bring this up. I'm using the word Allah because to me, the word 'god' is rootless. It has no context. The word Allah is the central word in the discourse of al-quraan and therefore is fully-explained. The bible doesn't have this self-awareness.
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Peace be upon you,
since you brought it up, what do you think "no compulsion means?"
It means "absence of energy". It means we have the FREEDOM to choose, the FREEDOM to ignore any impulse or force to move in a certain direction.
For example, one is standing at a crossroad deciding to go left or right, then someone comes up and pushes you to the left, that was compulsion, and that is what emotions do. That was not choice.
SO to make a long answer short, we are free to choose our own way, but it benefits us to choose the way that is in line with the Divine Plan.
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SO to make a long answer short, we are free to choose our own way, but it benefits us to choose the way that is in line with the Divine Plan.
Agreed. When you choose Al-Islaam, you are choosing to attain salaam. The way you choose Islam is to purify your deen solely for Allah (mukhliseena lahu ad-deen).
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Allah is not Arabic. Jesus used Allah as well in the Bible
I'm not claiming the word is Arabic exclusively or that Allah Himself is an Arab. What I am saying is, I use the word Allah because the word is fully explained in al-quraan. I do not accept the bible as revelation nor any other book.
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PEACE
Someone correct me if im wrong but doesn't ALLAH translate to THE GOD??
Also I personally agree with jonny the simple reason being is that God is beyond language and therefore we shouldn't limit The God to a simple word if we are to believe that his system/religion is for all of mankind to follow and not selected people in the Middle East who speak Arabic/Aramaic or whatever. Just my 2 cents!!
PEACE
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Peace "mquran",
Strange to see you even bring this up. I'm using the word Allah because to me, the word 'god' is rootless. It has no context. The word Allah is the central word in the discourse of al-quraan and therefore is fully-explained. The bible doesn't have this self-awareness.
JK- Even in the Quran "Allah" is not used as a name or personal god as many believe. We should use the term for GOD of the language which we speak. Ofcourse im not forcing anyone. Thats just my advice. If you wanna be considered terrorists and racists by non-Arabic speakers, which i believe would be the result of doing so, then that's entirely upto you . GOD Bless!
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Peace "2pac",
Someone correct me if im wrong but doesn't ALLAH translate to THE GOD??
JK- Yep that is a possibility but grammatically speaking i prefer using all capital "GOD" only.
Also I personally agree with jonny the simple reason being is that God is beyond language and therefore we shouldn't limit The God to a simple word if we are to believe that his system/religion is for all of mankind to follow and not selected people in the Middle East who speak Arabic/Aramaic or whatever. Just my 2 cents!!
PEACE
JK- EXACTLY! ) GOD Bless!
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Hello
As brother Salahdin said Allah is A NAME and does not mean God, Allah is a unique name too, I can elaborate later,,
Ilah is the one that means God
therefore Allah must be called Allah in any langugae because it is his personal name that can't be plural neither feminine
God however can be plural "the gods" and can be feminine "The goddess"
for example the name Richard in english will be "Richard" in Arabic
and my name Ahmed in Arabic will be Ahmed in English and Ahmed in chinease
see, it has nothing to do with the Arabic language
IT IS A NAME FOR GOD SAKE
and I mean by God above "Ilah" and not "Allah"
But I know there is only one Ilah (God) and His name is Allah (Allah)
Peace to all
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Peace bro "AB",
Hello
As brother Salahdin said Allah is A NAME and does not mean God, Allah is a unique name too, I can elaborate later,,
JK- Sorry i cannot agree. Christians also use this argument to slap the submitters in the face.
Ilah is the one that means God
JK- "Ilah" means "god" with small "g" while "Allah" means "God/GOD" with capital "G". Greek makes an even better distinction i.e. "ilah" in arabic= "TONtheos" in Greek and "Allah" = "HOtheos". Once is indeed specific while the other is common BUT none is a name NOT to mention a personal name. See the difference?
therefore Allah must be called Allah in any langugae because it is his personal name that can't be plural neither feminine
JK- "GOD" with ccapital "G" can also neither be feminine nor plural. And as i said according to the Quran GOD is NOT a person. This is the Christians's or Jews' concept of GOD. Submitters stress on the fact entirely that GOD is for all.
God however can be plural "the gods" and can be feminine "The goddess"
JK- Explained above.
for example the name Richard in english will be "Richard" in Arabic
JK- Bad example since "Allah" is NOT a name. Even the Arabic Bible would show you that where "elyhim" wherever referring to the true god has been translated as "Allah".
and my name Ahmed in Arabic will be Ahmed in English and Ahmed in chinease
JK- Explained above.
see, it has nothing to do with the Arabic language
IT IS A NAME FOR GOD SAKE
and I mean by God above "Ilah" and not "Allah"
But I know there is only one Ilah (God) and His name is Allah (Allah)
Peace to all
JK- As ive made clear now "Allah" is NOT a name by any means. Jesus, Abraham, etc didnt call GOD by the term "Allah". They used "Elyhim/Alaaha/Yahweh/Eloah". GOD Bless!
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Thanks bro
can you please tell me what the besmellah means then by ( in the name of Allah) ?
thanks