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Why do so many Quran Aloners still use the term "Allah"

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    Tay
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    Peace,

    I say let people speak the way they want to speak.

    Peace,
    Tay

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      unknownuser
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      Hi all,

      I say let people speak the way they want to speak.

      I agree. There is no 'this is what u should do' to it. Its a personal choice.

      Peace!

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        unknownuser
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        Salam,
        I've noticed that many who claim to believe in Quran Alone on this forum still use the Arabic term "Allah" instead of "GOD" whilst debating or writing a post in English. I dont understand this. Why do you insist on using an Arabic term which confuses many of the people and leads the vast majority of the west to the conclusion that we too are fundamental hadith "islamics" and terrorists? I suggest you refrain from doing so and use the English term "GOD". GOD Bless!

        Peace jonny

        with my respect bro, this is very rediculous by you and has no merit

        Salam

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          unknownuser
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          Bro Jonny

          I wonder why you used the greeting Salam at the start of your comment?

          since we are in an english forum, shouldn't it be Peace or Hello?

          Salam

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            jonny_k
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            Peace bro "AB",

            Bro Jonny

            I wonder why you used the greeting Salam at the start of your comment?

            since we are in an english forum, shouldn't it be Peace or Hello?

            Salam

            JK- Yep you are right and i admitted my mistake. From now on i shall use "Peace" at the start of my posts. Thanks for the reminder. ) GOD Bless!

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              unknownuser
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              Peace be upon you,

              There is no compulsion in the God's order.

              I do however truly believe that when speaking a certain language that you should translate all words. From my own personal experience, when I started to translate everything, I gained vast understanding.

              Also, make sure the words that are already translated by traditional "scholars" is correct, like the term "angel" which has no place in this message.

              In conclusion, there is no compulsion, just expressing how much it has helped me.

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                mquran
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                JK- You should know that the Arabic Bible also uses the term "Allah" which is translated from "elyhim" and in English "God" or "GOD". The term "GOD" with all caps or even "God" cannot be modified. It is the one with small "g" that can be. GOD Bless!

                Strange to see you even bring this up. I'm using the word Allah because to me, the word 'god' is rootless. It has no context. The word Allah is the central word in the discourse of al-quraan and therefore is fully-explained. The bible doesn't have this self-awareness.

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                  phoenix1
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                  peace Idolfree1,

                  since you brought it up, what do you think "no compulsion means?"

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                    unknownuser
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                    Peace be upon you,

                    since you brought it up, what do you think "no compulsion means?"

                    It means "absence of energy". It means we have the FREEDOM to choose, the FREEDOM to ignore any impulse or force to move in a certain direction.

                    For example, one is standing at a crossroad deciding to go left or right, then someone comes up and pushes you to the left, that was compulsion, and that is what emotions do. That was not choice.

                    SO to make a long answer short, we are free to choose our own way, but it benefits us to choose the way that is in line with the Divine Plan.

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                      mquran
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                      SO to make a long answer short, we are free to choose our own way, but it benefits us to choose the way that is in line with the Divine Plan.

                      Agreed. When you choose Al-Islaam, you are choosing to attain salaam. The way you choose Islam is to purify your deen solely for Allah (mukhliseena lahu ad-deen).

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                        bmbmm
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                        Allah is not Arabic. Jesus used Allah as well in the Bible

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                          mquran
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                          Allah is not Arabic. Jesus used Allah as well in the Bible

                          I'm not claiming the word is Arabic exclusively or that Allah Himself is an Arab. What I am saying is, I use the word Allah because the word is fully explained in al-quraan. I do not accept the bible as revelation nor any other book.

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                            Prince
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                            PEACE

                            Someone correct me if im wrong but doesn't ALLAH translate to THE GOD??

                            Also I personally agree with jonny the simple reason being is that God is beyond language and therefore we shouldn't limit The God to a simple word if we are to believe that his system/religion is for all of mankind to follow and not selected people in the Middle East who speak Arabic/Aramaic or whatever. Just my 2 cents!!

                            PEACE

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                              jonny_k
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                              Peace "mquran",

                              Strange to see you even bring this up. I'm using the word Allah because to me, the word 'god' is rootless. It has no context. The word Allah is the central word in the discourse of al-quraan and therefore is fully-explained. The bible doesn't have this self-awareness.

                              JK- Even in the Quran "Allah" is not used as a name or personal god as many believe. We should use the term for GOD of the language which we speak. Ofcourse im not forcing anyone. Thats just my advice. If you wanna be considered terrorists and racists by non-Arabic speakers, which i believe would be the result of doing so, then that's entirely upto you . GOD Bless!

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                                jonny_k
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                                Peace "2pac",

                                Someone correct me if im wrong but doesn't ALLAH translate to THE GOD??

                                JK- Yep that is a possibility but grammatically speaking i prefer using all capital "GOD" only.

                                Also I personally agree with jonny the simple reason being is that God is beyond language and therefore we shouldn't limit The God to a simple word if we are to believe that his system/religion is for all of mankind to follow and not selected people in the Middle East who speak Arabic/Aramaic or whatever. Just my 2 cents!!

                                PEACE

                                JK- EXACTLY! ) GOD Bless!

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                                  unknownuser
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                                  Hello

                                  As brother Salahdin said Allah is A NAME and does not mean God, Allah is a unique name too, I can elaborate later,,

                                  Ilah is the one that means God

                                  therefore Allah must be called Allah in any langugae because it is his personal name that can't be plural neither feminine

                                  God however can be plural "the gods" and can be feminine "The goddess"

                                  for example the name Richard in english will be "Richard" in Arabic

                                  and my name Ahmed in Arabic will be Ahmed in English and Ahmed in chinease

                                  see, it has nothing to do with the Arabic language

                                  IT IS A NAME FOR GOD SAKE

                                  and I mean by God above "Ilah" and not "Allah"

                                  But I know there is only one Ilah (God) and His name is Allah (Allah)

                                  Peace to all

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                                    jonny_k
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                                    Peace bro "AB",

                                    Hello

                                    As brother Salahdin said Allah is A NAME and does not mean God, Allah is a unique name too, I can elaborate later,,

                                    JK- Sorry i cannot agree. Christians also use this argument to slap the submitters in the face.

                                    Ilah is the one that means God

                                    JK- "Ilah" means "god" with small "g" while "Allah" means "God/GOD" with capital "G". Greek makes an even better distinction i.e. "ilah" in arabic= "TONtheos" in Greek and "Allah" = "HOtheos". Once is indeed specific while the other is common BUT none is a name NOT to mention a personal name. See the difference?

                                    therefore Allah must be called Allah in any langugae because it is his personal name that can't be plural neither feminine

                                    JK- "GOD" with ccapital "G" can also neither be feminine nor plural. And as i said according to the Quran GOD is NOT a person. This is the Christians's or Jews' concept of GOD. Submitters stress on the fact entirely that GOD is for all.

                                    God however can be plural "the gods" and can be feminine "The goddess"

                                    JK- Explained above.

                                    for example the name Richard in english will be "Richard" in Arabic

                                    JK- Bad example since "Allah" is NOT a name. Even the Arabic Bible would show you that where "elyhim" wherever referring to the true god has been translated as "Allah".

                                    and my name Ahmed in Arabic will be Ahmed in English and Ahmed in chinease

                                    JK- Explained above.

                                    see, it has nothing to do with the Arabic language

                                    IT IS A NAME FOR GOD SAKE

                                    and I mean by God above "Ilah" and not "Allah"

                                    But I know there is only one Ilah (God) and His name is Allah (Allah)

                                    Peace to all

                                    JK- As ive made clear now "Allah" is NOT a name by any means. Jesus, Abraham, etc didnt call GOD by the term "Allah". They used "Elyhim/Alaaha/Yahweh/Eloah". GOD Bless!

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                                      unknownuser
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                                      Thanks bro

                                      can you please tell me what the besmellah means then by ( in the name of Allah) ?

                                      thanks

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                                        unknownuser
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                                        Salam Brother Jonny

                                        I'm sorry bro, I don't care what other language or other religions call Allah in their language if it is not Arabic

                                        In the Arabic Quran however it clearly tells us that Allah IS A NAME ALONG WITH MANY OTHER NAMES HE HAS, here is my compelling evidence

                                        23- Allah is He, than Whom there is no other god;- the Sovereign, the Holy One, the Source of Peace (and Perfection), the Guardian of Faith, the Preserver of Safety, the Exalted in Might, the Irresistible, the Supreme Glory to Allah! (High is He) above the partners they attribute to Him.

                                        24- He is Allah, the Creator, the Evolver, the Bestower of Forms (or Colours). To Him belong the Most Beautiful Names whatever is in the heavens and on earth, doth declare His Praises and Glory and He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.

                                        (23)

                                        (24)

                                        Peace bro

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                                          mquran
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                                          In the Arabic Quran however it clearly tells us that Allah IS A NAME ALONG WITH MANY OTHER NAMES HE HAS, here is my compelling evidence

                                          Read the verse again.

                                          It says Allah, there's no ilah but He...

                                          So if one asks, who is the 'he' in 59/23? what would your answer be?

                                          then 59/24 says 'lahu al-asmaaul husna' to/for him are the most beautiful names.

                                          So who is the 'he' in 59/24?

                                          To me, this passage shows that the primary name is 'Allah'. However, Im still unsure about 17/110.

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