WHO HERE ARE THE ALLAH/QUR-AN ONLY PEOPLE...?
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Salaams All,
Just wondering is useless arguments/disputes and other things of this type, forbidden anywhere in the quran?
Salaams.
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SaLaM mz357
God does says to hold discussions, but in a way that is best.
Invite to the path of your Lord with wisdom and good advice, and argue with them with that which is better. Your Lord is fully aware of who is misguided from His path, and He is fully aware of the guided ones.
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Salaams Jaxal,
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And we said OAdam dwell you and your wife (in) the paradise/the happy abode/state of bliss and eat/partake both of you from it with free pleasure (from )wherever you wish but (do) not come near this tree/ offensive disputes or you both will be of the wrong-doers.Salaams.
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Salaams Jaxal,
i was just pointing at futile arguments/disputes for the benefit of some people who looked as though they where into a strong argument-of a type.
Gods Blessings on All.
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Salaams Dhul,
nice list ,
are there any people who don't believe in the rituals as such and are God Alone and Quran followers or something - may be we could have gethereing every blue moon or something dosen't matter where we are - i think.
It may be good for our future - future generations or something.
I am in the Uk.
send a post , or a personal message . Salaams .
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Well I am GOD Alone and Quran Alone but I dont fall into what is described on the original post as being Quran Alone,the Question should have been Who Here Are Progressive Muslims(those described with the beliefs that was listed)? Because I do salaat,I believe in pilgrimage, and in other things some claim to be just allegory etc..so the question is tainted to PM's only view..which I dont claim to be,but neither am I a 19er or Mainstream Muslim either.Im simply a Muslim that follows the religion of Abraham(Islaam) by using and following to the best of my knowledge the Message that GOD sent by Muhammad-the Quran..
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Peace all. 'Quran only' is not necessarily the same as 'god alone',unless god only speaks through the quran and nowhere else...?
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peace nabi and all. Nabi;I put a questionmark at the end of my point,so it was not a conclusion. I also stated 'quran only' is not necessarily the same as 'god only',this is not excluding all 'quran only' from being 'god only'.Please read what i wrote. I have no doubt that God speaks outside the quran as well.(the implication by some is that the quran is the only reliable wahy or revelation.) And i will ask,can you be 'god alone' without being quran alone?(or do we have 'quran only' sectarianism?)
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Peace
I put a questionmark at the end of my point,so it was not a conclusion.
It was a concluding remark. People do it all the time. For example x is not y unless <whatever> right?
You're assuming because of a and b that c <God speaks through the Quran and nowhere else> is definitive.
I also stated 'quran only' is not necessarily the same as 'god only',this is not excluding all 'quran only' from being 'god only'
No matter what, it is God only. It is God inspired.
the implication by some is that the quran is the only reliable wahy or revelation
And by others that it is not really a revelation and that God is not one but many.
And i will ask,can you be 'god alone' without being quran alone?
That's a different question buddy.
Quran alone is God alone.
One can believe in God alone without adhering to the quran alone.
Still, adhering to the quran alone puts one in the position of being God alone.
And surely you know the answer to your question so why ask it? Have you not been propogating such a thing throughout the forum? Ex Oh I believe we do not need the quran for this and that and the quran is not necessary. People can find God without scripture, etc.
Joe
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Peace nabi. Ok,is the interpretation of the quran only people god inspired?
If i ask you a question, while having an opinion of my own on that question,what is the problem?If you show me im incorrect or have made a wrong conclusion(which happens,we are all human. )then i will see if you have a clearer insight on this topic. Is this not the purpose of discussion and questions?Why are you making an assumption that you think i already have a unshiftable preconceived notion to my questions? I have a previous opinion but it is not necessarily set in stone. Or can you read my mind/heart? I feel your defensiveness is possibly beacause you feel uncomfortable with some questions. I could be wrong.
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Salaam Enquirer,
I have no doubt that God speaks outside the quran as well.
Neither do I. As a matter of fact, the entire Quran speaks outside of it, which is what is written down and condensed in a book form by men. Much of the Quran itself is a rehash, repetition and reinstatement of what has previously been already known along with added events of its own time.
And i will ask,can you be 'god alone' without being quran alone?
Certainly, I am for one, not related to parochial dogmatic school of thoughts. (or do we have 'quran only' sectarianism)
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Peace danish. I am glad to hear your open-mindedness.
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Salaams all,
yes i do think ,
Quran alone = God alone,
But God alone doesn't equal quran alone.
But the first is the safest bet as everything is compiled into one book to make us God Alone easier - i think.
Salaams.
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Peace simple. I understand your reasoning and it may be fine for you at this time. The common factor however is god,not just the quran.I dont think you can always limit guidance to one book only.God is the all,not the quran.(which is a part.)You can learn from the all.
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Enquirer you are still making assumptions. The reading is not the only guidance in this world, the reading itself has proposed this.
You assume
We (whomever you may be generalizing about) think that the quran is the only guidance.
We think God alone is ONLY quran alone.
I'm telling you that the people who adhere to the principles of the reading are those who take the stance of God alone, as Rabb . To take God alone is Lord/Rabb it is not necessary to know of the reading, but certain of it's principles should be upheld in order to be of such an ilk .
Do not presuppose that I am part of a sect by telling me, or pushing the idea that I may believe or people under the so-called title "Quran Alone; God Alone" may believe that guidance is only to be had in the reading. I've no problem with your question, I've only a problem with what you're ensuing.
Joe
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peace nabi and all. Nabi i am glad you stated your position,now i know your personal position and it seems very reasonable. I was stating 'some' quran only not all,that is not a generalisation. A generalisation (to my mind.)is when i say all or most without evidence. Are you telling me that no quran only people believe the quran is the only way to salvation? If so,i stand corrected.
Peace all.