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    belH
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    Salaam
    Allhumdullilah we are about to witness the month of Ramadan from the eveing of Sunday.
    May we all complete our fasts in this blessed month

    Ramadan starts from Sunday evening and first fast is on Monday

    http//www.moonsighting.com/

    Happy fasting

    Happy Ramadan To you as well

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      ayman
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      Peace Belal,

      Happy Rammadan
      The Following are important links to understand how Month is calculated?
      http//aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/MoonPhase.php
      http//aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/islamic.php
      http//aa.usno.navy.mil/graphics/Moon_movie.gif

      You don't even know the meaning of the Arabic word "ramadan". So how can you wish happy something that you don't know to people?

      Peace,

      Ayman

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        farida
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        Peace Belal,

        You don't even know the meaning of the Arabic word "ramadan". So how can you wish happy something that you don't know to people?

        Peace,

        Ayman

        Salaam Ayman

        I would relly appreciate if you could tell me the meaning of the Arabic word "Umar"?
        peace

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          anthonywallace
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          Today 9/1/08 is the first fast day right??? Some say it was on aug 30...

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            Supernaut
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            Ra-Miim-Dad = to be burning, heat, be blasted by the sun. ramaDda - to sharpen (a spear) between stones, roast, pasture on a burning ground, burn. ramDda - scorching heat, burning hot (ground). ramadzan - the ninth month of Islamic calendar, the month of fast.

            ramadan n. 2185

            Source http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm

            ,.ai. 3 , (s, Mgh, Mh, K,) and
            alone, for tihe latter, though disapl)roved by some
            of the learned, occurs in a trad., (MAlgh, Mob,
            TA,) and in poetry, (TA,) but not t.*l, for
            this is incorrect, (Mhgh,) The ninthi of the Arabian
            months (TA) so called because, when they
            changed the names of the months from the ancient
            language, they named tlhemni according to the
            seasons in whiich tlhey fell, (Jm, S, K,) and this
            month, (Jm, 8,) or i,U, (IK,) for this was its
            ancient name, (TA,) agreed with tlhe days of
            vehement hbent (Jm, 8, Mgh, M.b, K) or from ,, said of a man fasting, expl.
            above (Fr, ] ) or because
            it burned sins;

            Source http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume3/00000323.pdf

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              I am also fasting my fist day today, Monday. I have seen some here have said Ramadan is during the heat months. Is it still 30 days and where did the 10 days come from?

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                ayman
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                Peace Farida,

                I would relly appreciate if you could tell me the meaning of the Arabic word "Umar"?
                peace

                I assume that you are asking about the proper name Umar (since you capitalized the U). The proper name Umar is meaningless. It is just a meaningless label. It is as meaningless as other proper names such as Farida and Ayman. Hence those names are not translated when we speak in English. As for the common noun, you can see the meanings here

                http//www.baheth.info/all.jsp?term=

                I hope that you can see why it is not surprising that people who don't know what "ramadan" means are clueless about when it occurs because they assume that the word is meaningless and thus completely ignore it. In reality it is not meaningless and the meaning fits perfectly in the context of determining the timing.

                Peace,

                Ayman

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                  rsw
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                  Umar. prosperous. Full Of Life. Large. Substantial. root Umrmeans Life. Any Other Questions Before You Answer Yours?

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                    belH
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                    Peace Belal,

                    You don't even know the meaning of the Arabic word "ramadan". So how can you wish happy something that you don't know to people?

                    Peace,

                    Ayman

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                    Ayman, calm down! Do you experience this state of Stress (Fojoor) every Ramadan?
                    Are you Angry because you are the only so called Moslem (and your Sects) who believes that Ramadan in June and fasting is Ten Days?
                    Will confused? !that could cause Stress.

                    Now, my advice to you is to either reevaluate your position, or come up with a logic conclusion that can make sense to you (so you can feel better and make peace with yourself) and maybe Moslem would listen to it.

                    Now, What does Rammadan Means?

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                      belH
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                      Today 9/1/08 is the first fast day right??? Some say it was on aug 30...

                      Yes, today when I started my Fasting; and I believe, based on the Crescent Size, Today is more accurate.
                      Peace

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                        Peace Belal,

                        Ayman, calm down! Do you experience this state of Stress (Fojoor) every Ramadan?
                        Are you Angry because you are the only so called Moslem (and your Sects) who believes that Ramadan in June and fasting is Ten Days?
                        Will confused? !that could cause Stress.
                        Now, my advice to you is to either reevaluate your position, or come up with a logic conclusion that can make sense to you (so you can feel better and make peace with yourself) and maybe Moslem would listen to it.
                        Now, What does Rammadan Means?

                        As I said and you admitted, you don't know what "ramadan" means. You should find out what it means instead of wasting your time on empty rhetoric.

                        Peace,

                        Ayman

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                          farida
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                          Peace Farida,

                          I assume that you are asking about the proper name Umar (since you capitalized the U). The proper name Umar is meaningless. It is just a meaningless label. It is as meaningless as other proper names such as Farida and Ayman. Hence those names are not translated when we speak in English. As for the common noun, you can see the meanings here

                          http//www.baheth.info/all.jsp?term=

                          I hope that you can see why it is not surprising that people who don't know what "ramadan" means are clueless about when it occurs because they assume that the word is meaningless and thus completely ignore it. In reality it is not meaningless and the meaning fits perfectly in the context of determining the timing.

                          Peace,

                          Ayman

                          Salaam Ayman,
                          I am sorry I should have written "omar"/ but, as there is no capital in the turkish language, dont take it as name but just a an Arabic word and I will appreciate if you could give me its meaning please!!!!
                          peace
                          BTW farida means unique and I don't use a capital as you can see above.

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                            ayman
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                            Salaam Ayman,
                            I am sorry I should have written "omar"/ but, as there is no capital in the turkish language, dont take it as name but just a an Arabic word and I will appreciate if you could give me its meaning please!!!!
                            peace
                            BTW farida means unique and I don't use a capital as you can see above.

                            The word as RSW pointed out means prosporous, full of life, long-living, etc. As with all translations, it would really depend on the context which of the meanings one would use. So it would help if you put it in a sentence.

                            As for "farida" meaning unique, if you are using it as a common noun then you should translate it in this English conversation like all common nouns. It is only proper names that are not translated. Capitalization is not the main criteria since we don't speak in capital and yet we are able to tell in a conversation a proper name from a common noun. We can tell based on context.

                            I hope I have answered your question.

                            Peace,

                            Ayman

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                              Peace Ayman,

                              Are you saying we should fast/abstain (from food, sex, und so weiter) in the hottest month of the year instead of a particular month in the lunar calendar which may be a very cool one? If that's the case, it's not really Ramadan here in Pakistan because the weather's improved; it's not so hot anymore.

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                                Peace Supernaut,

                                Are you saying we should fast/abstain (from food, sex, und so weiter) in the hottest month of the year instead of a particular month in the lunar calendar which may be a very cool one? If that's the case, it's not really Ramadan here in Pakistan because the weather's improved; it's not so hot anymore.

                                Unfortunately, as you intuitively concluded, in Pakistan and elsewhere people generally ignore the clear meaning of the word "ramadan". So it is not surprising that sectarians are now fasting a completely random month. The common noun "ramadan" means "scorching" and "shahr" means "full-moon". So 2185 is giving us the marker as the "scorching full-moon" (also known as "red moon" in ancient cultures). This is a well-known universal cosmic phenomenon that occurs near the summer solstice (see my avatar) and that everyone can witness, not some arbitrary month in a manmade calendar. Please see the following article for more details

                                http//www.free-minds.org/articles/science/timing.htm

                                Peace,

                                Ayman

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                                  Supernaut
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                                  Peace Ayman,

                                  I did go through it, though after I posted my question, but thanks anyway. And your article is very cool.

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                                    The word as RSW pointed out means prosporous, full of life, long-living, etc. As with all translations, it would really depend on the context which of the meanings one would use. So it would help if you put it in a sentence.

                                    I hope I have answered your question.

                                    Peace,

                                    Ayman

                                    Salaam Ayman

                                    Thank you for addressing my question, the reason I asked this is becasue you are particular with words and their meaning, when you mentioned the second Khalifa Omar in one of your post, how come you called him Omar when he is long dead and can?t be called ?full of life?. Just as you only associate ramadan with scorching heat and would not accept it as a noun.

                                    My opinion is that we always had a lunar calendar and there is a reason why we are supposed to experience abstention in all seasons in a cycle of 30 years. The Qur?an was first revealed during the hot summer time and that is a clue for the Leilatul Qadr and, I believe, as time went by, the month of fasting was given the name Ramadan as it was given that status.

                                    peace

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                                      ayman
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                                      Peace Farida,

                                      Thank you for addressing my question, the reason I asked this is becasue you are particular with words and their meaning, when you mentioned the second Khalifa Omar in one of your post, how come you called him Omar when he is long dead and can?t be called ?full of life?. Just as you only associate ramadan with scorching heat and would not accept it as a noun.

                                      You don't seem to know the difference between common nouns and proper names. I accept "ramadan" as a common noun not as a proper name. On the other hand, the proper name Omar is meaningless. As you said, we can be sure that people named Omar aren't more full of life than anyone else and that king Omar is long dead. I am also sure that many people named Omar lived a very short life. So as a proper name, Omar is meaningless and in fact it can be the opposite of what it commonly means. Now if you want to take words in 2185 such as "ramadan", "huda", "miskin" or any word in the passage as proper names which are meaningless and could mean the opposite of what is being said so that "ramadan" can be cold and "huda" can be lost and "miskin" can be rich then be my guest and good luck understanding the universal concepts that the god is communicating.

                                      My opinion is that we always had a lunar calendar and there is a reason why we are supposed to experience abstention in all seasons in a cycle of 30 years. The Qur?an was first revealed during the hot summer time and that is a clue for the Leilatul Qadr and, I believe, as time went by, the month of fasting was given the name Ramadan as it was given that status.

                                      Who gave this name Ramadan after the fact and when did he do it? Do you know the name of that person or who he is?

                                      Also, are you talking about Leila the meaningless name or about the common concept of "night"? If you are talking about the common concept then you should translate it because unlike the proper name it is not meaningless. Same goes for "qadr" (measure) and "ramadan" (scorching).

                                      Peace,

                                      Ayman

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                                        farida
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                                        Peace Farida,

                                        Who gave this name Ramadan after the fact and when did he do it? Do you know the name of that person or who he is?

                                        Peace,

                                        Ayman

                                        Salaam Ayman
                                        It could be someone like you but surely he has a bigger following than you will ever have.
                                        All I know is with time people start to give name to events you never know sometime in furture people will think 9/11 was some special day.

                                        peace

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                                          Peace Farida,

                                          It could be someone like you but surely he has a bigger following than you will ever have.
                                          All I know is with time people start to give name to events you never know sometime in furture people will think 9/11 was some special day. peace

                                          Your entire argument hinges on "ramadan" being a meaningless proper name. You admit that this name Ramadan is a name that someone who you don't know named after the fact of the revelation of the great reading. You don't know anything about this proper name or who invented it and all you can give is conjecture from your imagination. I advise you to ponder on this passage and hopefully see that there is a better way instead of empty boasting about number of followers

                                          1. These are but names that you named, you and your forefathers that the god never authorized. They follow conjecture and what the selves fantasize, while the guidance has come to them from their Lord.

                                          Peace,

                                          Ayman

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