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Number of wives?

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    afridi220
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    Now you notice what I wrote wow

    I hope they dont end up in front a Judge who gives this verdict likr A-A
    ?If the gentleman had married one woman, went on to marry another woman, then married a third woman, all three without giving any one of them a talaq, this gentleman is well within the hudood, he has a right accorded to him by Allah to have more than one wife. To speak ill of his conduct is gheebat, his conduct is that of a momin.? brickwall

    Please don?t break the wall a fortune of knowledge is buried under it.
    The women of this country are very bold and strong they know how to get divorce secondly they have very good jobs and don?t care about men superiority at all and the government is very helpful.

    voodoo

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      SwedenMajidah
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      Salaam,
      I have voted for "as one as one can manage" and remember that managing means, be there for her as her husband in all walks of life, supporting her financially and sexually as well as companionably, strong enough to provide for her needs....any example there? angel
      Not like wealthy Arabs who can only give their wives enough money to shop and are unable to satisfy them, thus leaving many sexually frustrated.
      peace

      Peace,

      Good point sister Farida!!! Men are too greedy, they want too much and cannot manage it ;D

      Maria

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        afridi220
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        Peace,

        Good point sister Farida!!! Men are too greedy, they want too much and cannot manage it ;D

        Maria

        Maria please you can not blame all men this is not fair of you. >(

        ;D

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          SwedenMajidah
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          Maria please you can not blame all men this is not fair of you. >(

          ;D

          yeah perhaps but men are often not fair with women so hmm we have to be muscle

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            afridi220
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            yeah perhaps but men are often not fair with women so hmm we have to be muscle

            No this is not true you can not beat all men with one stick police

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              siki
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              Dear friends let us just analyse this word from 3359 alone

              How come one can read it as one word "Azwajaka". Please pay attention to alphabets. Peace and love.

              Badar

              Badar!

              How about you doing some hard work , and analyse this arabic word.

              siki

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                bkanwar2
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                Siki, are you up for hard work? Let me be the first one to start it and analyse this word linguistically. All on this board and everywhere are insistent that it is "Azwajika". In this verse 3359 and preceeding 3350 it stands for wives of prophet. Hence, grammatically all asume it to be a noun. Does anybody on this forum differ from this conclusion?

                Badar

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                  Muslimtruthrevealed
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                  Siki, are you up for hard work? Let me be the first one to start it and analyse this word linguistically. All on this board and everywhere are insistent that it is "Azwajika". In this verse 3359 and preceeding 3350 it stands for wives of prophet. Hence, grammatically all asume it to be a noun. Does anybody on this forum differ from this conclusion?

                  Badar

                  Assalaam Alaikum Brotha Badar

                  Azwaji-ka means YOUR mates or spouses, the 'Ka' is a 2nd person pronoun, denoting now, present tense NOT past tense.

                  This ayah and word was appropriate during the time of the Prophet, but the Prophet is no longer here.

                  Nor is it referring to a plurality of multiple wives.

                  If it was referring to the Prophet it would be Azwaji-ha, which is a 3rd person reference, referring to someone or something who is NOT present or in the past. It would also be preceded by a preposition like 'ida', denoting a past tense reference.

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                    bkanwar2
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                    So in nutshell, you are saying that, this word, if it is a word. It is a combination of a noun and pronoun. That is Azwaji, a noun and Ka a pronun. Am I understanding you correctly? Is this how everybody understands it as well. Peace and love.

                    Badar

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                      anna
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                      yeah perhaps but men are often not fair with women so hmm we have to be muscle

                      have you been doing weights my dear maria

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                        Maria please you can not blame all men this is not fair of you. >

                        ;D

                        why can we not blame all men, we are in a free country afterall, or at least I AM rotfl

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                          Muslimtruthrevealed
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                          So in nutshell, you are saying that, this word, if it is a word. It is a combination of a noun and pronoun. That is Azwaji, a noun and Ka a pronun. Am I understanding you correctly? Is this how everybody understands it as well. Peace and love.

                          Badar

                          Yes, Your understanding is correct in regards to my observations.

                          How everyone else understands it, is beyond my perceptions.

                          As Allah states 'If you follow the majority of people on the earth, they will lead you away from the path of Allah'

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                            afridi220
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                            why can we not blame all men, we are in a free country afterall, or at least I AM rotfl

                            wow what do you means by free country ? do you means there is no man in that country hmm

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                              wow what do you means by free country ? do you means there is no man in that country hmm

                              rotflrotfl

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                                bkanwar2
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                                Only, one so far saying that Azwajika is a noun followed by personal pronoun. Azwaji + Ka. Is the no answer from anybody else, suggest all in agreement. If not we need some descenting opinions. Lot of friends on this forum have Arabic as their native language. Peace and love.

                                Badar

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                                  anna
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                                  Siki, are you up for hard work? Let me be the first one to start it and analyse this word linguistically. All on this board and everywhere are insistent that it is "Azwajika". In this verse 3359 and preceeding 3350 it stands for wives of prophet. Hence, grammatically all asume it to be a noun. Does anybody on this forum differ from this conclusion?

                                  Badar

                                  salam,
                                  my grammer is not great, but in arabic if he were speaking of singular then he would say zawjatika.......azwajaka is plural
                                  also the word 2ojorahoNNA which comes after the word azwajaka also implies plural form which the NNA is used for plural , if it were singular it would be 2ajriha............ in 3350 again if it were singular it would bi lizawjatika there would be no hamza or an alf infront of the L.......as in li2azwajika

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                                    anna
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                                    Only, one so far saying that Azwajika is a noun followed by personal pronoun. Azwaji + Ka. Is the no answer from anybody else, suggest all in agreement. If not we need some descenting opinions. Lot of friends on this forum have Arabic as their native language. Peace and love.

                                    Badar

                                    salam, ka is referring to femininety, not personal pronoun ZAWjataKA singular 2ZwajaKA plural
                                    i hope this helped

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                                      Muslimtruthrevealed
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                                      salam, ka is referring to femininety, not personal pronoun ZAWjataKA singular 2ZwajaKA plural
                                      i hope this helped

                                      Assalaam Alaikum @anna

                                      My dear Musilimah,

                                      Is not 'ka' singular, masculine reference? 2nd person?

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                                        Samia
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                                        Assalaam Alaikum Brotha Badar

                                        Azwaji-ka means YOUR mates or spouses, the 'Ka' is a 2nd person pronoun,

                                        So far so good...

                                        denoting now, present tense NOT past tense.

                                        A prnoun has no past or present...just as a noun. If you mean the whole sentence, then this is redundant since the verse is addressing the prophet at that time when he was alive, which we know, and are not deducing this information of "past address" from the construction of the verse.

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                                          unknownuser
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                                          Is not 'ka' singular, masculine reference? 2nd person?

                                          Ya ayyuha alrrasoolu balligh ma onzila ilayka min rabbika
                                          567 You, you the messenger deliver what was descended to you from your Lord

                                          How many spouses/wives?

                                          Ya ayyuha alnnabiyyu lima tuharrimu ma ahalla Allahu laka tabtaghee mardata azwajika waAllahu ghafoorun raheemun
                                          661 You, you the prophet, why you forbid what God permitted for you, you desire wives' approvals, and God (is) forgiving, merciful.

                                          Wa-ith asarra alnnabiyyu ila baAAdi azwajihi
                                          663 And when confided the prophet to some (of) his wives...

                                          How many daughters?

                                          1178...he said "You (my) nation those are daughters (banatee), they are purer for you...
                                          1179 They said "You had known is not for us from right in daughters ( banatika), and that you know what we want."

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