All Mighty God?
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Hey guys,
I'm a muslim that has discovered your site and the "God Only" movement and I'v learned a lot of new things and been able to make my faith stronger. I have a question that I'v been thinking about for a while,If God knows everything that is going to happen, what is the point of creating humans if he knows what they are going to do? What I have been taught for my whole life is that god created humans to see who would worship him and who wouldn't, but he already knows so whats the point?
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Hey guys,
I'm a muslim that has discovered your site and the "God Only" movement and I'v learned a lot of new things and been able to make my faith stronger. I have a question that I'v been thinking about for a while,If God knows everything that is going to happen, what is the point of creating humans if he knows what they are going to do? What I have been taught for my whole life is that god created humans to see who would worship him and who wouldn't, but he already knows so whats the point?
(5156) Allah the Exalted, the Blessed created the creatures so that they worship Him Alone without partners. Those who obey Him will be rewarded with the best rewards, while those who disobey Him will receive the worst punishment from Him. Allah stated that He does not need creatures, but rather, they are in need of Him in all conditions. He is alone their Creator and Provider.
So, with the explanation straight from the qur'an, the reason for humanity's creation should be familiarized.
Also, Allah swt says,
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Translation
'Who hath created life and death that He may try you which of you is best in conduct; and He is the Mighty, the Forgiving'(672)
Allah has said that he has created us to test us, to see which of us is best in deeds. He is not testing us to know, in the sense that he doesn?t already know, but this world is a test for us in order again that we can grow spiritually.
jedi
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11119 Save him on whom your Developer of all your stages of evolution has given His Rahima, His continuous nourishment and neverneding development; and for that He did create them.Illa man rahima rabbuka walithalikakhalaqahum
Rahma from R-H-M meaning womb. Referring to protection, nourishment and development towards further stages. Since Allah is Rahman and we can never leave Him, it means we are meant for neverending development, to grow from level to level as a species.
36 He it is Who fashioneth you in the wombs as pleaseth Him. There is no Allah save Him, the Almighty, the Wise.
Huwa allathee yusawwirukum fee al-arhami kayfa yashao la ilaha illahuwa alAAazeezu alhakeemu8419 That you shall most certainly enter one state after another, from one stage tothe other, Tabaqan 3an Tabiq.
It seems Allah has allowed us to have free will and for Him not to decide our decisions, this means He has voluntarely limited His control on our destiny by everytime creating options, and although He knows we are gonna take, He had not decided that before we took it as we decide our own development. That is His true rahma.
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realy ??
sorry, i don't know why it looks like i'am shouting.
i don't mean toorotfl rotfl
affridi is talking about your picture rotfl
I have a question that I'v been thinking about for a while,
If God knows everything that is going to happen, what is the point of creating humans if he knows what they are going to do? What I have been taught for my whole life is that god created humans to see who would worship him and who wouldn't, but he already knows so whats the point?
Peace all
Diem, wellcome to the forum and to the path of worshipping God allone (obeying only him).
your question is a question that goes on most of humans minde. Here is the answer that I found 12 years ago, after I asked God to show meGod knows every thing including the future. Thus, when God created Adam, or even before, He saw every thing that will happen untill humas enter Heaven or Hillfire. Thus, He saw that Humans, using there free-will, will choose to be Believers or Disbelievers.
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If thy Lord had so willed, He could have made mankind one People but they will not cease to dispute (11 Except those on whom He hath bestowed His Mercy and for this did He create them and the Word of thy Lord shall be fulfilled "I will fill Hell with jinns and men all together." (11-119)I believe that God created Human being in order to choose the True believers , whom will have another life that non o of us know about except too little from Quran.
Peace
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realy ??
sorry, i don't know why it looks like i'am shouting.
i don't mean tooPeace Brother,
No, please take that as a joke from Afridi
I think he was influated of your avatar, that man looks angry in some way yeah
Peace
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Hey guys,
I'm a muslim that has discovered your site and the "God Only" movement and I'v learned a lot of new things and been able to make my faith stronger. I have a question that I'v been thinking about for a while,If God knows everything that is going to happen, what is the point of creating humans if he knows what they are going to do? What I have been taught for my whole life is that god created humans to see who would worship him and who wouldn't, but he already knows so whats the point?
salam,
its true god knows but then again he is god, the question is do we know, the answer is no we dont and thats the challange in life, wether he knows or not it will not help us in this life will it?
do we know what will happen to us in 5 minutes or 10 or an hour, god created us to worship him and gave us 40 years of our life to look for the truth which is a great blessing but as we go through the years only we decide the road we choose he does not decide for us, but he knows what we will decide, he puts many tests ahead of us and its how we deal with these tests that will pave our way to the right path or wrong. -
Hey guys,
I'm a muslim that has discovered your site and the "God Only" movement and I'v learned a lot of new things and been able to make my faith stronger. I have a question that I'v been thinking about for a while,If God knows everything that is going to happen, what is the point of creating humans if he knows what they are going to do? What I have been taught for my whole life is that god created humans to see who would worship him and who wouldn't, but he already knows so whats the point?
God knows all. That is absoloutely true. I don't understand why you think Him knowing everything would eliminate free will. He knows what choices we are going to make in life and what we are going to do. He gave us free will, and so the choices we make were not "pre-programmed".
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salam
I think they are the scholars and faked islam, who aim to convince people that they are HELPLESS, AND NOTHING IN THER HAND.....and it is only God that choose either to guide them or not, either to send them to heaven or hell.... and that entering heaven is by God mercy only.... while in the Quran God made it clear that he will guide those who will do there best to know their true religion..... and entering heaven or hell is by the DEEDS which is the man choice.
peace
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I think my question was misinterpreted. What I'm asking is, if god knows the outcome, if he knows what we are going to do, then why would he create humans in the first place. He already knows which one of us is going to be in heaven and which ones are going to burn. WHY CREATE THE EARTH AND PUT BILLIONS OF HUMANS ON IT if god knows exactly which ones are going to heaven. Why even make humans. Its kind of like if someone asks you what 1 + 1 is. You dont need to take out a piece of paper and pencil, you already know the answer is 2.
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I think my question was misinterpreted. What I'm asking is, if god knows the outcome, if he knows what we are going to do, then why would he create humans in the first place. He already knows which one of us is going to be in heaven and which ones are going to burn. WHY CREATE THE EARTH AND PUT BILLIONS OF HUMANS ON IT if god knows exactly which ones are going to heaven. Why even make humans. Its kind of like if someone asks you what 1 + 1 is. You dont need to take out a piece of paper and pencil, you already know the answer is 2.
I think the answer is in this verse
5156 'I did not create the Jinn and the humans except to serve Me".
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Hey guys,
I'm a muslim that has discovered your site and the "God Only" movement and I'v learned a lot of new things and been able to make my faith stronger. I have a question that I'v been thinking about for a while,If God knows everything that is going to happen, what is the point of creating humans if he knows what they are going to do? What I have been taught for my whole life is that god created humans to see who would worship him and who wouldn't, but he already knows so whats the point?
salamun alayakum
i hope someone can point to the relevant verses about us having this life as a final chance to redeem ourselves by submitting to the authority of God alone. I remember reading something in submission.org about the heavenly feud. the specific verse of that would be
3869 "I had no knowledge of the command up high that they had quarreled." (Reformist Translation)
- "I had no knowledge previously, about the feud in the High Society." (RK Translation)
3869 "I had no knowledge of the High Council when they disputed." (Arberry Translation)
3869 "I have no knowledge of the dispute among the angels (concerning their attitude towards Adam)." (Sarwar Translation)
3869 "I had no knowledge of the exalted chiefs when they contended" (Shakir Translation)
3869 "No knowledge have I of the Chiefs on high, when they discuss (matters) among themselves." (Yusuf Ali Translation)
3869 "I had no knowledge of the Highest Chiefs when they disputed;" (Pickthall Translation)
3869 "I had no knowledge of the chiefs (angels) on high when they were disputing and discussing (about the creation of Adam)." (Hilali & Khan Translation)
3869 Say! ?I have no knowledge of the exalted chiefs of the past when they disputed." (Shabbir Ahmed Translation)
may God increase our knowledge...
peace jedi
O0 ramon O0
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I'm sorry if this is getting annoying, but why??
God doesn't need help doing anything.Peace,
So, you agree that God Saw our Deeds before we were created...okay.
Now, Do you think that God would reward us or punish us without actual deeds.
In other words, would it be fair for God to punish someone based on what He (God) knew about, before creating him ? Such a person would say "I did not do any thing". Thus, it was important for God to create us in order for us to do Good or do wrong, in order to not blame no one but ourselves when judged in the JD.Salam
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Peace,
So, you agree that God Saw our Deeds before we were created...okay.
Now, Do you think that God would reward us or punish us without actual deeds.
In other words, would it be fair for God to punish someone based on what He (God) knew about, before creating him ? Such a person would say "I did not do any thing". Thus, it was important for God to create us in order for us to do Good or do wrong, in order to not blame no one but ourselves when judged in the JD.Salam
SalamThanks for the clarification, now I'd like to add to my original question,
- God knows all things
- God knows the outcome of creating the earth, jinns, and humans
- Why create the earth, jinns and humans if he knows the outcome
Now, Do you think that God would reward us or punish us without actual deeds.
Uncreated humans cant ask questions such as the one you posed, as a matter of fact, they cant do anything since they do not exist,
also, if god allows humans to ask him such a question, then do we say that all people who are born retarded, or with low intelligence get a free pass to heaven because they will just tell Allah, "you did not give me enough intelligence to read the Quran or become Muslim."
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Thanks for the clarification, now I'd like to add to my original question,
- God knows all things
- God knows the outcome of creating the earth, jinns, and humans
- Why create the earth, jinns and humans if he knows the outcome
Uncreated humans cant ask questions such as the one you posed, as a matter of fact, they cant do anything since they do not exist,
also, if god allows humans to ask him such a question, then do we say that all people who are born retarded, or with low intelligence get a free pass to heaven because they will just tell Allah, "you did not give me enough intelligence to read the Quran or become Muslim."
Peace,
Do I sense an agnostics?
Maria