If for the Men there will be hooris,what will there be for women in Paradise?
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Where is the ayah that Allah states 'I sent Adam to......'?
If you cant do that....then produce the archeological or historical evidence of the existence of the 'Original' 'Adam' , as you claim was a Man, who actually lived.
Produce this evidence please
Stop changing your statemet; You said
Assalaam Alaikum
- There no historical evidence as to the existence of this 'original' 'man named 'Adam' at anytime, anywhere in human history
And here is another evidence
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Allah did choose Adam and Noah the family of Abraham, and the family of Imran above all people. (33) Offspring, one of the other; and Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (3-34) -
belalhammad
uuh belalhammad, we know Adam is a model for humanity we got that. Now what people was Adam sent to?
Evidence please
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Did Adam exist before in history or not?
Peace,
What kind of question is that?
seems as he was an alien or something.
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Peace,
1958 Those are the ones whom God has blessed from amongst the prophets from the progeny of Adam, and those We carried with Noah, and from the progeny of Abraham and Israel, and from whom We have guided and chosen. When the revelations of the Almighty are recited to them, they fall down prostrating, and in tears.
237 Adam then received words from His Lord, so He forgave him; He is the Forgiver, the Merciful.
20121 So they both ate from it, and their bodies became apparent to them, and they began to place leaves on themselves from the paradise. Adam had disobeyed his Lord, and had gone astray.
20122 Then his Lord recalled him, and He forgave him, and gave guidance to him.Adam is a person, he had offspring, he heard the revelations of God and fell down prostrating and in tears.
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Peace,
What kind of question is that?
seems as he was an alien or something.
This is in referance to MTR comment
- There no historical evidence as to the existence of this 'original' 'man named 'Adam' at anytime, anywhere in human history
Peace,
1958 Those are the ones whom God has blessed from amongst the prophets from the progeny of Adam, and those We carried with Noah, and from the progeny of Abraham and Israel, and from whom We have guided and chosen. When the revelations of the Almighty are recited to them, they fall down prostrating, and in tears.
237 Adam then received words from His Lord, so He forgave him; He is the Forgiver, the Merciful.
20121 So they both ate from it, and their bodies became apparent to them, and they began to place leaves on themselves from the paradise. Adam had disobeyed his Lord, and had gone astray.
20122 Then his Lord recalled him, and He forgave him, and gave guidance to him.Adam is a person, he had offspring, he heard the revelations of God and fell down prostrating and in tears.
Thank you for helping
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Peace,
1958 Those are the ones whom God has blessed from amongst the prophets from the progeny of Adam, and those We carried with Noah, and from the progeny of Abraham and Israel, and from whom We have guided and chosen. When the revelations of the Almighty are recited to them, they fall down prostrating, and in tears.
237 Adam then received words from His Lord, so He forgave him; He is the Forgiver, the Merciful.
20121 So they both ate from it, and their bodies became apparent to them, and they began to place leaves on themselves from the paradise. Adam had disobeyed his Lord, and had gone astray.
20122 Then his Lord recalled him, and He forgave him, and gave guidance to him.Adam is a person, he had offspring, he heard the revelations of God and fell down prostrating and in tears.
Peace,
bravo for bring forth these verses.
He got guidence but not a Scripture because this first generation was very simple.Maria
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Peace all,
What I still have in my mind though is the theory that Adam was not just one but many how else could the mankind grow and spread around the world and different races ( skincolor, haircolor etc) ?
Maria
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Peace all,
What I still have in my mind though is the theory that Adam was not just one but many how else could the mankind grow and spread around the world and different races ( skincolor, haircolor etc) ?
Maria
Peace all
No one can till us the Truth about the Unseen, eccept Him, Allah.
God told us that Adam and his wife were the first to live on earth; moreover, he told us that all humans were created from Adam and his Wife (2-36). Thus, the answer to your questions is answered by the Knowledgable of the Unseen.
Now, you will find many people in Free-Minde will give other different answers.
And it will be the test for you choose between God's answer or Others beside him.
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He did'nt save you belalhammad, It seems you did NOT prove anything. Be careful who you call liars and accuse of misleading
Sura 2.36 does NOT say anything about Adam's wife! or that humans came from Adam and Eve's conception, thats Bible!
Then did Satan make them slip from the (garden), and get them out of the state (of felicity) in which they had been. We said. "Get you down, all (you people), with enmity between yourselves. On earth will be your dwelling-place and your means of livelihood - for a time."
Faazallahuma alshshaytanu AAanha faakhrajahuma mimma kana feehi waqulna ihbitoo baAAdukum libaAAdin AAaduwwun walakum fee alardi mustaqarrun wamataAAun ila heenin
Then learnt Adam / adamu from his Lord words of inspiration, and his Lord Turned towards him; for He is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.
Adamu (Raf Case) refers to both males and female human beings.
Allah did choose Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of 'Imran above all people,-
Inna Allaha istafa adama wanoohan wa ala ibraheema wa ala AAimrana AAala al-AAalameena
Istafa (Perfect, SingularVerb Form VIII = Reflexive) Chosen from the best, preferred, chosen in preference over another (Iblis)
Verb Form VIII = Reflexive The object (Adam) and subject (Noah, Ibraaheem & Family of Imran) of a reflexive verb refer to the same person / individuals
Ala denotes an end?.lineage
Those were among the prophets or whom Allah has blessed from the offspring of Adam / thurriyyati adama and from those whom We carried with Nooh and from the offspring of Ibraheem and Israel and from those whom We guided and We chose, when the ayats/signs of Ar-Rahman were recited on them they fall down prostrating, weeping.
'thurriyyati adama' is in the genitive(?), thus Adam is the model, foundation of the lineage
? So, Shaitan/Satan whispered to him saying, "O Adam / AdamU / ! Do you have evidence over the Tree of Eternity and the kingdom that does not decay".
Adamu (Raf Case) refers to both males and female human beings.
Thus in..
But his Lord chose him (for His Grace). He turned to THEM (not him) / fataba AAalayhi / , and gave THEM (not him) Guidance.
Masculine Verbs and Pronouns refer to Males and Females, unless otherwise governed by a preposition
'Adam' is the model and beginning of the lineage!
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MTR
Do you believe in Saten Story (2-34)?I believe in the Quran. Can we continue with the thread please?
Again, dont be so quick to call others liars and suggest they are misleading people, Allah may expose you as the liar and the one misleading people.
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I believe in the Quran. Can we continue with the thread please?
Again, dont be so quick to call others liars and suggest they are misleading people, Allah may expose you as the liar and the one misleading people.
Again; Do you believe in the Story of Saten?
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Belalhamd, I think you are getting bogged down into something where you have to get thing so that they fit something preconceived instead of getting ll your facts first and then trying different possibilities that satisfy all the fact. And MTR, who has been rather chastised in the forum, is right when she says we are dealing with metaphores.
That is, you cannot get your theories or hytpothesis or whatever you want to call them supported because the very fact that you want to prove is not warranted by the honorable Qur'an. The firts time the janna -and the fire- is depicted in the Qur'an which is at the beginning in Al baqara, 21 to 29 we are told that we are being spoken to with amthal, that is, images, metaphors, parables, and not once but several times... Therefore to go on to extract conclusions from the litteral meaning is a guranty of getting it wrong, because one thing that is sure is that the image cannot mean is itself. That is, if you take pearls to use as an image, one thing that cannot mean the image is pearls, because then it would not be an image. It may be something that evoques that same impression or sensation, but not the same thing.
Then there is all this speculation about Adam, mate, ladies first or gentelman only... The Qur'an says many different things on this, all very difficult to interpret and fit there may be one quote that may fit in some theory we get all worked up, and then there comes along another one that spoils it. this as many times almost as trials.
Again, one doesn't get far by trying to make the data fit the theory, it is the theory that must fit the data.
Salaam
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The firts time the janna -and the fire- is depicted in the Qur'an which is at the beginning in Al baqara, 21 to 29 we are told that we are being spoken to with amthal, that is, images, metaphors, parables, and not once but several times... Therefore to go on to extract conclusions from the litteral meaning is a guranty of getting it wrong, because one thing that is sure is that the image cannot mean is itself.
Peace all
What God said in the Quran about the unseen is Thy TRUTH. The Jana is TRUTH and the Hillfire is TRUTH. You have all the right to disblieve in the Truth but you have no right to make others follow your and MTR footsteps.
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If We had so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance; but the Word from Me is the Truth. "I will fill Hell with Jinns and men all together." (32-13)Then there is all this speculation about Adam, mate, ladies first or gentelman only... The Qur'an says many different things on this, all very difficult to interpret and fit
All fits with each others
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Do they not ponder on the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy. (4-82)Now; do you believe in Saten Story (MTR Needs your help in answering)? rotfl
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Peace all
What God said in the Quran about the unseen is Thy TRUTH. The Jana is TRUTH and the Hillfire is TRUTH. You have all the right to disblieve in the Truth but you have no right to make others follow your and MTR footsteps.
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If We had so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance; but the Word from Me is the Truth. "I will fill Hell with Jinns and men all together." (32-13)
All fits with each others(
Do they not ponder on the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy. (4-82)Now; do you believe in Saten Story (MTR Needs your help in answering)? rotfl
Of course what the Qur'an says is true, it is true what is meant by the metaphores when it says it is using metaphores. But, never mind, it is your business if you pick from the Quran what suits you and leave out what doesn't suit you. No need to argue. Have it all your way.
Salaam
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Of course what the Qur'an says is true, it is true what is meant by the metaphores when it says it is using metaphores. But, never mind, it is your business if you pick from the Quran what suits you and leave out what doesn't suit you. No need to argue. Have it all your way.
Salaam
Wait; do you believe in Saten Story? rotfl
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Wait; do you believe in Saten Story? rotfl
I am not in the mind to answer inquisitorial questions. Inquisition is over. You should state in written form what it is that you understand by this "Saten Story" before wanting any answer, so the inquisited knows what the inquisitor has in mind. "Faithful" is not a synonim of "mind-guesser".
Anyway, just to avoid beating around the Bush I will make a general statement
I believe in the Qur'an as it was revealed to Muhammad.
I do not believe in anything as reprocessed by Belalhamd or anybody else. Belalhamd is not God and what Belalhamd says or has in mind binds nobody.
Now I shall expect to see some more of those inquisitorial talents and have my above statement reprocessed to show how evil I am.
And excuse me if I do not sound too respectful of your utterings, but reading the Generous Qur'n is not the same as reading the product of some self-appointed truthpossessor's mind, which explains why I find your said utterings inevitably disappointing.
Salaam