Alif; Laam and Meem with ancillary glyph/prolongation sign
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I cannot give an answer that you'll like because you are asking the wrong questions .
You want to know where is the "house of god" and in which city !!??
Okay here's my answer again
"house of god" is not a location, it's an institution, a principle,... it's monotheisme
salam
Evasive answer as pagans do.
you know far better than me what pagans do rotfl
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"house of god" it's monotheisme- but then it is restrictively located in a particular locality, which is that town?
quickduck and mazhar were arguing about what would be that black animal 2 miles away far from them..
mazhar said i bet it's a cow !
quickduck no , it's a crow !
Mazhar i'm sure it's a cow !
quickduck open your eyes dude, it's a crow !
Mazhar NO , it's a cow i said !!!!!
suddenly, this black thing took off , spread wings and flew in the sky...
quickduck you see ? i was right
Mazhar Altough it flies, it's a cow !!!!!!!!!!!!!Salam all ,
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quickduck and mazhar were arguing about what would be that black animal 2 miles away far from them..
mazhar said i bet it's a cow !
quickduck no , it's a crow !
Mazhar i'm sure it's a cow !
quickduck open your eyes dude, it's a crow !
Mazhar NO , it's a cow i said !!!!!
suddenly, this black thing took off , spread wings and flew in the sky...
quickduck you see ? i was right
Mazhar Altough it flies, it's a cow !!!!!!!!!!!!!Salam all ,
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And when We earmarked for Iebra'heim the site/plot of the House ,
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that " You never associate with Me anything,
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and you maintain/manage the cleanliness/sanctity of My House for those people who circle around it/"circum gyration" and stay around it, and for the purpose of bowing and prostration of people.http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/022.%20Al%20Hajj/22.27.gif
And you pronounce amongst the people for Hajj ,
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they will come to you on foot and upon each and every ride, they coming from every deep and distant mountain highways;http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/022.%20Al%20Hajj/022.C%20%20Al%20Hajj.htm
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And when We earmarked for Iebra'heim the site/plot of the House ,
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that " You never associate with Me anything,
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and you maintain/manage the cleanliness/sanctity of My House for those people who circle around it/"circum gyration" and stay around it, and for the purpose of bowing and prostration of people.http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/022.%20Al%20Hajj/22.27.gif
And you pronounce amongst the people for Hajj ,
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they will come to you on foot and upon each and every ride, they coming from every deep and distant mountain highways;http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/022.%20Al%20Hajj/022.C%20%20Al%20Hajj.htm
From where did you get the translation that "hajj" means ''pilgrimage to kaaba'' ??
can you bring proofs that all the prophets after Abraham ever did this pilgrimage ??
Salam
P.S i'm pretty sure you will not answer except evasively ... nope
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they will come to you on foot and upon each and every ride, they coming from every deep and distant mountain highways
Where/which place would they come? Can you point out at which place was he where people were to come to him?
I say it was obviously the place where people are required to go for Hajj of the Bait, and that is Ka'aba. If you do not agree then you answer the question above.
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Where/which place would they come? Can you point out at which place was he where people were to come to him?
I say it was obviously the place where people are required to go for Hajj of the Bait, and that is Ka'aba. If you do not agree then you answer the question above.
as i expected, no real answer !
here are the questions again , pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase answer1- From where did you get the translation that "hajj" means ''pilgrimage to kaaba'' ??
(i mean is there any word for it in previous religions, since this "hajj" thing started from the era of Abraham ?)2 - can you bring proofs that all the prophets after Abraham ever did this pilgrimage ??
( i mean archelogical, historical, etc...proofs that Abraham and all the prophets after Him, as well as the "people" who he called on, really came to "your" Mecca and did pigrimage to ''your'' Kaaba Before islamic era ? )If you don't know the answer, be brave and tell everybody and yourself that you're following nothing but conjectures .
Moreover, these "conjectures" seems to be more related to paganism than to real "monotheism" . you cannot ignore that !
Salam
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Indeed/undoubtedly the FIRST House which was appointed/ built/placed on the Earth for the mankind is undoubtedly that one which is at Becca/Mecca; its peculiarity/prominent characteristic is its permanence/stability and is apparent/raised above the ground emblem of guidance for the mankind.http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/003.%20Aale%20Imran/03.92-8.gif
In its peculiar distinct features is the place of Iebra'heim and whoever entered therein he gets secure/amnesty.http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/003.%20Aale%20Imran/03.92-9.gif
And it is obligation from Allah for the one who has the capacity and wherewithal for travel he should decide to visit/perform Huj of The House.
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And whoever refused the discharge of this obligation,
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@quickduck 1- From where did you get the translation that "hajj" means ''pilgrimage to kaaba'' ??
(i mean is there any word for it in previous religions, since this "hajj" thing started from the era of Abraham ?)I have to say that's a very interesting question. What do you think the word "hajj" denotes?
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I have to say that's a very interesting question. What do you think the word "hajj" denotes?
i'm still working on it
in classical arabic "hajj" would mean some kind of debate.
in hebrew there's a similar word "hagg" that means an annual feast.But what i am absolutly sure of is that it doesn't mean "circling half-naked around a gold decorated stone cube, kissing a black fragment of meteorit and kill each other while stoning some pillars representing ibliss !!! " end of the story !!!
Salam;
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@quickduck in classical arabic "hajj" would mean some kind of debate.
Is that all you found in classical arabic?
@ in hebrew there's a similar word "hagg" that means an annual feast.
Could you provide the concordance you have referred to for that "annual feast"?
@But what i am absolutly sure of is that it doesn't mean "circling half-naked around a gold decorated stone cube, kissing a black fragment of meteorit and kill each other while stoning some pillars representing ibliss !!! "
Ha ha....that's true. Also, it's a line every non-Muslim has learned to parrot when have nothing to contribute.
@end of the story !!!
Figures.
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@quickduck in classical arabic "hajj" would mean some kind of debate.
Is that all you found in classical arabic?
@ in hebrew there's a similar word "hagg" that means an annual feast.
Could you provide the concordance you have referred to for that "annual feast"?
@But what i am absolutly sure of is that it doesn't mean "circling half-naked around a gold decorated stone cube, kissing a black fragment of meteorit and kill each other while stoning some pillars representing ibliss !!! "
Ha ha....that's true. Also, it's a line every non-Muslim has learned to parrot when have nothing to contribute.
@end of the story !!!
Figures.
No, it's not "all" i found in classical arabic, ...
i don't have time to write long poster, so i just wanted to share a sidenote...
Why don't you contribute to let us know what "hajj" means to you ?
Salam
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@But what i am absolutly sure of is that it doesn't mean "circling half-naked around a gold decorated stone cube, kissing a black fragment of meteorit and kill each other while stoning some pillars representing ibliss !!! "
Ha ha....that's true. Also, it's a line every non-Muslim has learned to parrot when have nothing to contribute.
Actually what is happening in Mecca in terms of walking half naked around some stone and kissing a stone is exactly what non-muslims do. Notice that you guys even wear the same uniform
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You have your stones and they have theirs. You can walk half-naked and venerate and kiss stones if you want but don't claim that it has anything to do with "islam".
Peace,
Ayman
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If that is not all you found then why did you make a selective submission? Any reason? Looking at some of your posts, brevity is certainly not to be one of them.
I have posted a writeup 'Hajj in the Bible,' which covers pilgrimage in the Bible and also the word 'chagag'. It's in the general section.
And what about your understanding of Hebraic 'hagg' as 'annual feast'? Did you find a reference to that?
Ha ha....hang on to your petticoat and put behind your ostensible bravado. My idea of 'hajj' I have already put up. And I have also thrown light on why many Jews and Christians mistranslate it as 'feast/festival/sacrifice'. And I have quoted your own book (Exodus, to be precise) to show the correct usage.
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If that is not all you found then why did you make a selective submission? Any reason? Looking at some of your posts, brevity is certainly not to be one of them.
I have posted a writeup 'Hajj in the Bible,' which covers pilgrimage in the Bible and also the word 'chagag'. It's in the general section.
And what about your understanding of Hebraic 'hagg' as 'annual feast'? Did you find a reference to that?
Ha ha....hang on to your petticoat and put behind your ostensible bravado. My idea of 'hajj' I have already put up. And I have also thrown light on why many Jews and Christians mistranslate it as 'feast/festival/sacrifice'. And I have quoted your own book (Exodus, to be precise) to show the correct usage.
I had not read that ealier. This took me there. Very good work done. Butwhat you can do in the presence of this fact
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They do not listen attentively whatever comes to them anew from the Zikr/Grand Qur'aan from their Sustainer Lord except that they listened it in a playful mood,
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If anybody looks up Lane's lexicon for classical Arabic, the very first entry for 'hajj' puts the (secular) meaning as 'betaking oneself to/repairing to/frequenting/visiting.
In a regulated context it explains it as repairing to the Kaaba to perform the religious rites and ceremonies.
It's the very first entry, so nobody who has looked it up in there can miss it. That verse is an admirable prophecy.
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The time of Hajj is prescribed only once a year. People of past also started using it as measure of years.
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He said to Musa , "Indeed I wish that I may marry with you one of my daughters, these two, on that you may serve for eight lunar years.http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/028.%20Al%20Qasas/028.%20B%20Al%20Qasas.htm
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Salaam
AL-Hajj
The root of this word is H J J (Ha, Jim, Jim). Many words such as Hajat, Hajaat , Ahtajaj, Mahtaj are derived from this root. All these words have Hajat (need) obvious. This is an action that requires discussion and dialogue and results in meeting the demands or needs of people. Any complaints or protests by people to gain their rights or fulfill their needs fall under this term. This word is a proper noun. People can perform Hajj in a thousand different ways. However, the Hajj mentioned in this verse is a special Hajj (Al-Hajj).
AL-Umra
This word is a proper noun as well. Its root is A M R (Ayn, Meem, and Raa). It means to live or spend life or settle down. Whether we live during the times of peace or turbulent, we must obey God?s commandments. Even if we are forced to protest to gain our rights, we must do so without abandoning our commitment to God?s decrees. But we assumed that Lilalah means the way to please Allah. Hence, we converted Al-Hajj and Al-Umra to methods of worship. The truth is that Umra means the life spent peacefully during the times of peace while Hajj means protest to restore or take back rights. Unrest in the society and even rebellion and war fall under this term called Hajj. War is the biggest form of protest. Hence, it is called ?Hajj Akbar?.
It is obvious from the next part of this verse that this is not a peaceful setting. It says if you are restrained ( ْ. When people are restrained they face turbulent or unfriendly situation. This hostile environment may lead to agitation and protest. Hence, to deal with this situation God command us to take whatever guidance is available ( ِ. Al-Hadah too is a proper noun. Our Imams translated it to mean sacrifice. By doing this they have envisioned a God who is thirsty of blood. Hence, shedding blood in God?s name, i.e. sacrificing animals is considered a virtue that brings rewards. Once upon a time wild nations used to slaughter beautiful women and children at the altar to please their gods. The same ritual is still being performed. The only difference is that animals have replaced young women and children.
The root of Al-Hadah is H D Y (Haa, Daal, and Yaa). It means guidance. Those who protest take the risk of arrest. If this happens and you are cut off from the guidance or instructions, then you should act upon whatever guidance you can find. But you must take precautions to keep the enemy in dark about your next steps or the directions of the movement or protest. That is why God commands you to make a circle around your leaders . If enemy learns about the leaders and arrests or restrains them, it could be a severe blow to the movement.
If any disagreement with your leader over the direction of the movement or lack of capabilities upsets you, you should first overcome these obstacles, i.e. acquire capabilities through appropriate training and resolve any differences with your leader.
When some among you are deficient in capabilities ( ا or you are under fire from you leader ( ) because of your deficiency, you should get training to overcome your deficiencies or demonstrate that you are capable of carrying out the task or duties entrusted to you. Many things can cause differences or disputes between followers and the leader. It could be bad mouthing, disobedience, or some disagreement over the strategy. Hence, God commands that there should be no bad mouthing, disobedience, or quarrelling during the protest (Hajj). These are three circumstances that warrant three training sessions or courses during Hajj or protest.Hence, whoever does not find guidance he/she has to complete three training sessions to learn how to avoid bad-mouthing, disobedience, and quarrel when there is a disagreement. Additional training sessions will enhance your knowledge, skills, and capabilities. This is indeed good for the whole society.
This command is for those who lack the ability to obey and carry out orders that place restrictions on them. Follow the path of God (Taqawa) and beware that God is severe in retribution.
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The reasons for the Protest (Hajj) are obvious. If anyone has objections or wants to argue about these reasons, he/she can do so without bad-mouthing, disobedience, and quarrel. And God is aware of whatever good you do. The more good you do is better for you, as all your actions that conform to God?s decrees bring good back to you. Oh, people of knowledge and wisdom, follow and enforce My decrees and commands at all times.
In brief this verse commands us not to indulge in slandering, law breaking, and quarrelling during the Protest. These are the three Siam, which means to guard against these three human weaknesses. Afterwards whatever good we do is known to God. All our actions must conform to God?s decrees or laws at all times. If we do so, we receive in return nothing but good. In other words as we sow, so shall we reap.
Please note that twice these commandments talk about being Conscious of God. First, near the end of the verse 196 we are commanded to conform to God?s decrees ( َ. Next, the people endowed with knowledge and wisdom are commanded to follow God?s decrees or commands at all times ( ِ. Obviously, these commands are addressed to the scholars, intellectuals, and leaders of the nation. Hence, Hajj is a gathering of the scholars and leaders, not the public. These scholars and leaders are commanded to conform to God?s decrees while carrying out the duties of Hajj. The more their actions and affairs conform to God?s decrees, the better for them. As a matter of fact all good actions bring good results. These commands are meant for the scholars, intellectuals, and leaders because they will be responsible for the planning and implementing Hajj. But this does not mean the public will be kept in the dark about their rights. However, it is the responsibility of the learned persons to educate the people about their rights. Also, the learned persons are in a better position to convey the voice and concerns of the public to the relevant authorities.study verse 196 of Surah Al-Baqara carefully.
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Complete Hajj and Umrah for the sake of Allah. But if you are restrained, then offer whatever you can gather for sacrifice. And refrain from shaving your head until your offering (the sacrificial animal) arrives at its landing-place (Mecca). If someone among you is sick or suffers from a disease of the scalp, his ransom is fasting or charity or sacrifice. Afterwards when you feel safe, perform Umrah followed by Hajj and offer whatever sacrificial animal you can grab with ease. Anyone who cannot afford a sacrifice, he must fast for three days during Hajj and seven days upon returning home. That is ten days in total. This command is only for those who do not reside near the vicinity of Al-Masjid Al-Haraam. And be mindful of Allah and beware that Allah is stern in retaliation. (Traditional translation)
Here is what we learn from traditional translation of this verse.- If you are arrested or restrained by enemy during your journey to Mecca for Umrah or Hajj, then ship to Masjid Haraam whatever sacrificial animal you can grab. Do not shave your head until your sacrificial animal reaches Masjid Haraam.
- But if someone is sick or suffers from a disease of the scalp, he must pay a ransom in the form of fasting or charity or sacrifice.
- When you feel safe and want to perform Hajj after Umrah, then you must offer sacrifice again. If you cannot afford a sacrificial animal, then fast three days during the Hajj and seven days when you return home. This command is only for those who do not live in the vicinity of Masjid Haraam.
- Be mindful of Allah and beware that Allah is stern in retaliation.
Now let us study the first command related to a certain situation. Someone left home for Umrah or Hajj but got caught while crossing an enemy?s territory. He is a prisoner now. There are restrictions on his movements. Despite this he is obliged to buy a sacrificial animal with whatever money he possesses. Now he must send this animal to Mecca. Please take a moment to ponder. - How will a prisoner buy a sacrificial animal in a hostile country? Will the enemy let him leave the prison to buy an animal for sacrifice?
- Where will he find the money to buy a camel or cow or ram?
- Who will arrange for him to purchase a sacrificial animal?
- Who will transport the animal to Mecca?
- In the light of present day situations some Ulma say that he would just send money. Is it easy to send money from a hostile country? Would not the prisoner invite additional punishment for trying to smuggle money outside the country?
This interpretation of Islam has been passed to us for the past 1200 years when people used to travel on camels or foot. How would a prisoner in a hostile country fulfill all these commands? If the prisoner becomes sick or has to shave his head due to a disease, he is forced to carry additional burdens. Take the example of someone who suffers from diabetes. Assume he got rash on his scalp and had to shave his head. Now he must do one of the three. - Fast. How can a diabetic fast without risking his life?
- Give his wealth to charity. He is already a prisoner and all his belongings have been taken or confiscated. What can he offer to the charity?
- Offer sacrifice. He already spent whatever he had in his possession on the sacrificial animal that he shipped to Mecca. How will he buy another sacrificial animal? Some Ulma translate ?Nusuk? to mean worship. What is this new worship? He is already performing Namaz? But he cannot perform Hajj or fast or offer anything to charity.
All the above conditions are unacceptable and unworkable for a prisoner. Particularly fasting can prove to be a killer. It could send him to his grave.
?Afterwards when you feel safe, perform Umrah followed by Hajj and offer whatever sacrificial animal you can grab with ease. Anyone who cannot afford a sacrifice, he must fast for three days during Hajj and seven days upon returning home. That is ten days in total.?
There is something fishy about this translation. According to this translation the above command applies only to those folks who do not reside near the vicinity of Masjid Al-Haraam. In other words the outsiders are subject to liabilities and penalties but the local residents of Mecca enjoy total freedom from any obligations. Are the residents of Mecca Allah?s darlings? The reality is that outsiders deserved the ease, not the locals.