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Fish is haram 4 Quran Alone adept according to Sunni Cheikh

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    herbman
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    Hi all,

    Fish is haram 4 Quran Alone adept according to Sunni Cheikh Salem Al Amry because of verse 53

    Yusuf Ali translation
    Forbidden to you (for food) are dead meat, blood the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah, that which hath been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; that which hath been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; unless ye are able to slaughter it (in due form); that which is sacrificed on stone (altars); (forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling with arrows that is impiety. This day have those who reject Faith given up all hope of your religion yet fear them not but fear Me. This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed my favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But if any is forced by hunger, with no inclination to transgression, Allah is indeed Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful.

    Please see and comment,
    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS9S5uDpma4

    Thanks

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      No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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      I didnt wanna hear this guy so I just turned the sound off. I get the gist of it though. Perhaps someone should show him the following verse

      596 Lawful for you is the catch of the sea, to eat it as enjoyment for you and for those who travel; and forbidden for you is the catch of the land as long as you are under restriction; and be aware of God to whom you will be summoned.

      Maybe he read so much Hadiths that he forgot all about the Quran? hmm

      Peace

      I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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        herbman
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        bravo
        well seen progressive

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          Yosemite
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          I didnt wanna hear this guy so I just turned the sound off. I get the gist of it though. Perhaps someone should show him the following verse

          596 Lawful for you is the catch of the sea, to eat it as enjoyment for you and for those who travel; and forbidden for you is the catch of the land as long as you are under restriction; and be aware of God to whom you will be summoned.

          Maybe he read so much Hadiths that he forgot all about the Quran? hmm

          Peace

          this is unbelievable

          how can this man pretend to teach to others when the answer is right under his nose? I need explanations.

          also he says that sunna makes eating fish halal? if by his belief he thinks that it is written in the quran that sea food is haram, how can he dare to go against it?

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            afridi220
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            I didnt wanna hear this guy so I just turned the sound off. I get the gist of it though. Perhaps someone should show him the following verse

            596 Lawful for you is the catch of the sea, to eat it as enjoyment for you and for those who travel; and forbidden for you is the catch of the land as long as you are under restriction; and be aware of God to whom you will be summoned.

            Maybe he read so much Hadiths that he forgot all about the Quran? hmm

            Peace

            Keep progressing ;D bravo bravo

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              MUNZIR_ALI
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              I didnt wanna hear this guy so I just turned the sound off. I get the gist of it though. Perhaps someone should show him the following verse

              596 Lawful for you is the catch of the sea, to eat it as enjoyment for you and for those who travel; and forbidden for you is the catch of the land as long as you are under restriction; and be aware of God to whom you will be summoned.

              Maybe he read so much Hadiths that he forgot all about the Quran? hmm

              Peace

              Well done man! bravo Maybe he was making his own laws! laugh

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                Meteora
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                I feel sorry for the crowd of blind-followiers listen to that ape.

                • As progressive provided, the verse ALLOWING sea food. It is then OBVIOUS that the verse forbidding dead animals IS LIMITED ACCORDING to another verse in the Quran. A smart person would then wonder why God commanded as to take THE WHOLE QURAN, and not parts of it, or parts of sentences, e.g. thinking it's ok to marry four women if you can simply support them, while the reality is it should be for the sake of orphans primarily.

                • It is obvious the point of that lecture is to make it seem FOLLOWING THE QURAN is harder than it and the sunna, and to somewhat I agree, what with the ahadith saying you can wipe away 2500 sins in under 15 minutes by uttering some words and simply casting a look of mercy on a parent is equivalent to a completed hajj (which, wipes away all previous sins). The hilarious thing is that the lecture totally fails because of the verse allowing sea food.

                • The ape mentioned locusts, which reminds me, the hadith about locusts is actually plagiarized from the bible

                We can clearly see where the Ahlul Sunnah and Shiah prohibition on foods comes from ? it is plagiarized completely from the Christian Bible. But surprise, surprise ? the Ahlul Sunnah and Shiah both allow the eating of locusts and some grasshoppers. As mentioned before ? Arabs and Pakistanis do eat locusts. They say these are permissible or halal. It is quite strange because why did they not pick on honey bees, butterflies or cockroaches and made those things halal ? Why include only the locusts and grasshoppers on their halal list ?

                The answer lies in the fact that this idea about locusts and grasshoppers being permissible food is also stolen from the Bible. The Ahlul Sunnah and Shiahs copycat the Bible very closely for both their HALAL as well as their HARAM foods.
                Yet among the winged insects that go on all fours you may eat those which have legs above their feet, with which to leap on the earth.

                Of them you may eat the locust according to its kind, the bald locust according to its kind, the cricket according to its kind, and the grasshopper according to its kind.

                http//pressthat.wordpress.com/2007/09/06/hadith-plagiarized-from-the-bible/

                Therefore the video utterly fails. I would post about it there, but I'm sure DefenderOfSunna would whine and cry back as usual.

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                  Alen
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                  Peace,
                  Respectfully.

                  I was almost concerned .... afterall, i'm a Terminator when it coems to eating sea food, lool,lol.
                  I love squid, prawns, salmon, fish, crabs, basically, anything that swims in the water,lool,lol.

                  God bless you all.

                  Peace.

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                    afridi220
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                    Peace,
                    Respectfully.

                    I was almost concerned .... afterall, i'm a Terminator when it coems to eating sea food, lool,lol.
                    I love squid, prawns, salmon, fish, crabs, basically, anything that swims in the water,lool,lol.

                    God bless you all.

                    Peace.

                    So you will eat Munzir if you find him swiming in the water. laugh laugh

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                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                      So you will eat Munzir if you find him swiming in the water. laugh laugh

                      And he will eat you too! LOL laugh

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                        Alen
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                        So you will eat Munzir if you find him swiming in the water. laugh laugh

                        Peace,
                        Respectfully.

                        I don't eat humans, in fact just last night i stopepd eating humans and i did it with a big feast, me and my friends, we ate the last human and said .... well, i was the only one who remained uneaten, so is aid, this has tos top.

                        By the way, hmm hmm .... nah, i already had a jacket potatoe with cheese. peace

                        Peace.

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                          Rev_John
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                          And he will eat you too! LOL laugh

                          I'm so glad I don't go swimming anymore. & &

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                            MUNZIR_ALI
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                            Peace,
                            Respectfully.

                            I don't eat humans, in fact just last night i stopepd eating humans and i did it with a big feast, me and my friends, we ate the last human and said .... well, i was the only one who remained uneaten, so is aid, this has tos top.

                            By the way, hmm hmm .... nah, i already had a jacket potatoe with cheese. peace

                            Peace.

                            Some one told me that humans taste like chicken!

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                              herbman
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                              Some one told me that humans taste like chicken!

                              you are wrong I heard like pigs, and it was a survivor from a flight crash that had to eat his companion (maybe dead I don't remember) to survive eat

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                                MUNZIR_ALI
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                                you are wrong I heard like pigs, and it was a survivor from a flight crash that had to eat his companion (maybe dead I don't remember) to survive eat

                                My friend is wrong! Not me! jedi

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                                  Rev_John
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                                  you are wrong I heard like pigs, and it was a survivor from a flight crash that had to eat his companion (maybe dead I don't remember) to survive eat

                                  Well m ost people are pigs anyway rotfl

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                                    MUNZIR_ALI
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                                    Well m ost people are pigs anyway rotfl

                                    that was classic! bravo rotfl rotfl

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                                      Alen
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                                      Some one told me that humans taste like chicken!

                                      Peace,
                                      Respectfully.

                                      Have you seen Soylent Green?
                                      I saw it long time ago and i must admit, as a writer, old movies ar emuchy better then most movies today, if we put them together. I mean, Transformers, G-Force, Napoleon Dynamite, Terminator 3, Terminator 4, ..... many more, they have no stories to tell and when they start using puppets, robots, aliens and everything nonhuman, you ask yourself where are the actor and actreses?

                                      Humans can't taste like chicken becasue we have different DNA.
                                      My two cents.

                                      Peace.

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                                        MUNZIR_ALI
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                                        Peace,
                                        Respectfully.

                                        Have you seen Soylent Green?
                                        I saw it long time ago and i must admit, as a writer, old movies ar emuchy better then most movies today, if we put them together. I mean, Transformers, G-Force, Napoleon Dynamite, Terminator 3, Terminator 4, ..... many more, they have no stories to tell and when they start using puppets, robots, aliens and everything nonhuman, you ask yourself where are the actor and actreses?

                                        Humans can't taste like chicken becasue we have different DNA.
                                        My two cents.

                                        Peace.

                                        I haven't seen it..But I think its great!

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                                          Edip_Yuksel
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                                          It is then OBVIOUS that the verse forbidding dead animals IS LIMITED ACCORDING to another verse in the Quran.

                                          In fact, another verse explains the dead animals and no fish will fit the description. Have you seen a fish gored to death by a bull or goat or fallen from the hill? Obviously, the verse prohibits eating carcass, since they could contain harmful bacteria or poison.

                                          Well, we do not eat live animals. We all eat animals after they are killed by humans. If killing a chicken and eating it is okay, then killing a fish and eating it too should be okay. As it is the case with other animals we should not eat fish that we found dead on their own or by an unknown cause.

                                          Peace,
                                          Edip

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