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Has anyone here read the bible?

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    hope4
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    I know plenty of women who are hot but think they are old and they are not even in their 40s.

    Joe

    Give them a fan too cool down ;D

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      Rev_John
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      Can Paul be concidered what Bukhari is concidered to muslims then ;D

      I'm not sure because I don't know how Bukhari is considered

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        I know plenty of women who are hot but think they are old and they are not even in their 40s.

        Joe

        if by "hot" you mean "beautiful face" then sure.

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          hope4
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          I'm not sure because I don't know how Bukhari is considered

          Well Bukhari is considered as a hero to sunni sect I should imagine, but opposite to people who follow the Quran Alone. He was responsible for the hadith books (collection of hearsay) which are the practising manual for majority of muslims. I don't know how Paul is considered by christians but I would imagine in a simular way.

          peace

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            I'm not sure because I don't know how Bukhari is considered

            wow wow

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            I can't believe what you just said, lets read it again

            I'm not sure because I don't know how Bukhari is considered

            elektro elektro elektro

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              Rev_John
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              Well Bukhari is considered as a hero to sunni sect I should imagine, but opposite to people who follow the Quran Alone. He was responsible for the hadith books (collection of hearsay) which are the practising manual for majority of muslims. I don't know how Paul is considered by christians but I would imagine in a simular way.

              peace

              Yes about the same. Paul is considered a hero to the Roman Catholic church, Anglicans, Baptists etc. but almost a heretic to God-alone Christians.

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                Rev_John
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                RasulHamsa, please do not shout at me!

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                  o o wow wow

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                    RasulHamsa, please do not shout at me!

                    sorry sir, I apologise... but what is your real purpose on this forum?

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                      sorry sir, I apologise... but what is your real purpose on this forum?

                      As a God-alone Christian I feel a close relationship with Quran-alone, God-alone Muslims. A dialog between the two can only benefit both with a result that we can throw off our differences and pre-existing bias to bring us even closer. What is your real purpose on this forum?

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                        As a God-alone Christian I feel a close relationship with Quran-alone, God-alone Muslims. A dialog between the two can only benefit both with a result that we can throw off our differences and pre-existing bias to bring us even closer.

                        hail sorry my friend, for a minute I thought you also work for CIA.

                        What is your real purpose on this forum?

                        I am not allowed to reveal my true puopose.

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                          nsws1988
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                          What is your real purpose on this forum?

                          To annoy everyone

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                            hope4
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                            Leave Rev.John alone, we need more people like him on here. He is a true gentleman ;D

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                              unknownuser
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                              To annoy everyone

                              seems like you know everyone here... -\

                              he was asking me madame, but anyways, give me one example that I have ever annoyed anyone? but there is good news for you! I'll be visiting this forum till the end of this year and not any more. handshake

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                                I live in a place where a Bible in my hands can be a problem. However I promised myself that I will read the OT and NT when I escape from Sunnistan (

                                This subject is a contentious one here, especially regarding the OT since many things there cause people to cringe. However I think that the NT is less problematic for a lot of people. Many aspects of the OT reminds people of the hadith canons and that makes them cringe. However I think the emphasis should be not what we think but WHAT DOES THE QURAN THINK abut the previous scriptures and I have not seen that debate here taken seriously once again because of OT phobia.

                                But I will say this. If you want to be a serious Quranist then you need to have a throrough understanding of the OT and NT and Judaic and Christian traditions as well as pagan traditions. Thats if you want to be a serious Quranist, meaning actvist. Its not easy to do away with the OT. Many early Christians wanted to but couldn't.

                                To be fair though many OT prophets and stories are in the Quran so I understand why many Quranist would not bother. But to be an actvist you must know it well since many Quranic verses could only be understood if you have knowledge of the OT and the Talmud. Maybe not an expert knowledge but at least a thorough understanding.

                                Its something I am going to have to do but not now. Internet has good sources but its never the same as reading it yourself since you will get the feel and overall picture and not bits and pieces as you get in the internet.

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                                  Rev_John
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                                  I live in a place where a Bible in my hands can be a problem. However I promised myself that I will read the OT and NT when I escape from Sunnistan (

                                  This subject is a contentious one here, especially regarding the OT since many things there cause people to cringe. However I think that the NT is less problematic for a lot of people. Many aspects of the OT reminds people of the hadith canons and that makes them cringe. However I think the emphasis should be not what we think but WHAT DOES THE QURAN THINK abut the previous scriptures and I have not seen that debate here taken seriously once again because of OT phobia.

                                  But I will say this. If you want to be a serious Quranist then you need to have a throrough understanding of the OT and NT and Judaic and Christian traditions as well as pagan traditions. Thats if you want to be a serious Quranist, meaning actvist. Its not easy to do away with the OT. Many early Christians wanted to but couldn't.

                                  To be fair though many OT prophets and stories are in the Quran so I understand why many Quranist would not bother. But to be an actvist you must know it well since many Quranic verses could only be understood if you have knowledge of the OT and the Talmud. Maybe not an expert knowledge but at least a thorough understanding.

                                  Its something I am going to have to do but not now. Internet has good sources but its never the same as reading it yourself since you will get the feel and overall picture and not bits and pieces as you get in the internet.

                                  bravo

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                                    belH
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                                    Selam

                                    I have read some of it but not all. Currently I am reading 'The King James Version of the
                                    Holy Bible'.

                                    I have currently read this and it puzzles me

                                    Genesis {179} And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my
                                    covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their
                                    generations. {1710} This my covenant, which ye shall
                                    keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every
                                    man child among you shall be circumcised. {1711} And ye
                                    shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a
                                    token of the covenant betwixt me and you.

                                    Who is this command for? I ask because christians do not perform circumcision.

                                    Peace,

                                    This is my believe in regard of this issue
                                    Circumcision is a very complected operation that involves many precise steps; and therefore, the Hebrew word "emul", which is translated to Circumcise, is not sufficient enough to refer to such a complicated operations. Unless, Prophet Abraham had performed it before, which I do not believe.
                                    I believe that Circumcision is an old Egyptian Culture that the Jews inherited after they lived with them for more than 600 years.
                                    http//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Egypt_circ.jpg

                                    Peace

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                                      Ahmad_Bilal
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                                      I'll be visiting this forum till the end of this year and not any more.

                                      Why are you leaving the forum?

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                                        hope4
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                                        Peace,

                                        This is my believe in regard of this issue
                                        Circumcision is a very complected operation that involves many precise steps; and therefore, the Hebrew word "emul", which is translated to Circumcise, is not sufficient enough to refer to such a complicated operations. Unless, Prophet Abraham had performed it before, which I do not believe.
                                        I believe that Circumcision is an old Egyptian Culture that the Jews inherited after they lived with them for more than 600 years.
                                        http//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Egypt_circ.jpg

                                        Peace

                                        Selam BelH

                                        I have heard in this forum that there is no evidence that the Jews lived with the Egyptians.

                                        Peace

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                                          belH
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                                          Selam BelH

                                          I have heard in this forum that there is no evidence that the Jews lived with the Egyptians.

                                          Peace

                                          Peace,
                                          The quranic, NT, and OT facts shows otherwise; please read Yousuf Chapter and you will note that this was the beginning of their Migration to Egypt, and then read Moses stories and you will note when they migrated back to the Promised Land.
                                          Thank you

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