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Taking off the Hijab

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    SarahY
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    It really upsets me when that happens. It's like I'm a piece of cloth nothing more. Everything I do has to be related to this piece of cloth on my head.
    I've gotten "It's because you wear a hijab" from 'friends' because I had problems getting a job. And the constant reminder that "mashallah she's been wearing the hijab since she was a kid" which I hate to hear because it was a very difficult time in my life and it depresses me.

    i know it's like this cloth means you are "muslim", have to be perfect now..

    i remember in highschool this 'hijabi' had a bf and all the girls were gossiping about her, i felt bad for her so i was like what makes her any different than 'such and such'. their reply "oh she doesnt have hijab" even though i thought hijab was an obligation i still felt every aspect should be judged accordingly. so i replied "so what does that mean if i don't wear hijab i can do anything i want because i'm not hijabi."

    hijab wasn't so drilled in as it is now. i remember my mum used to tell me to wear these skirts/dresses that just went below my knee. i used to think my mum was so ignorant how could i show my legs! but if you look at hijab fashion/history in say western societies. it's very different to what it has become (at least in Australia). today if i wore a skirt below my knee and bared my legs, other than looking ridiculously funny i'm sure there will be backlash

    Sometimes doing something that would make you happy can bring problems. You just have to wait for the right time.

    true.. and sometimes we miss opportunities.

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      aynur
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      I don't know if you understand or if you're a woman or not, but with the Hijab it's not really as simple as 'take it off' especially if you've been wearing it for a prolonged period of time so please, before you judge her realise it's NOT easy especially when you consider other factors. Putting it on is scary, taking it off is a HELL of a lot scarier.

      I can totally understand - even though I don't wear hijab myself I know if I ever did start, my husband would have a major hissy fit (and probably divorce me) if I took it off. Plus the reactions of other Muslims? They would think that I have no faith and I'm wishy-washy, besides who knows what else they'd say.

      I would say wait, and make sure you're ready before you take it off.

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        afridi220
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        It really upsets me when that happens. It's like I'm a piece of cloth nothing more. Everything I do has to be related to this piece of cloth on my head.
        I've gotten "It's because you wear a hijab" from 'friends' because I had problems getting a job. And the constant reminder that "mashallah she's been wearing the hijab since she was a kid" which I hate to hear because it was a very difficult time in my life and it depresses me.

        What is the problem with wearing a piece of cloth on your head, it is not religion it is tradition you will find many women either Hindu Sikh Muslim Christens etc wearing this piece of cloth in many countries.
        So please stop yay and wear as advised by your elders.

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          MUNZIR_ALI
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          What is the problem with wearing a piece of cloth on your head, it is not religion it is tradition you will find many women either Hindu Sikh Muslim Christens etc wearing this piece of cloth in many countries.
          So please stop yay and wear as advised by your elders.
          P

          laugh But women are forced to wear it in some countries. That is the problem bro.

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            SarahY
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            Peace Girls,

            I have an idea that might be more comforting but still gutsy.. how about changing the style of you're headscarf? so that it shows say a bit of your neck? and then as weeks/months go on make it a lil bit more..

            so like go through stages

            • headscarf covered full
            • headscarf covered with tiny bit of neck showing
            • headscarf with neck showing
            • then eventually take it off? or headscarf with neck/hair showing then eventually take it off.

            maybe it wont be such a "shock"

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              Wakas
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              Ahh, a practical and psychological approach. I like it.

              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                nsws1988
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                Ahh, a practical and psychological approach. I like it.

                You can test it for us. Let us know how it goes

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                  san
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                  @Sarah

                  That should be on your blog, Sarah! 4/5-steps to Headscarf-Free! you should accompany it with illustrations. yes

                  You can test it for us. Let us know how it goes

                  i'm sure he's already headscarf-free, so i think it goes the reverse, like

                  • no headscarf
                  • headscarf with neck/hair showing.
                  • headscarf with neck showing. hair fully covered
                  • headscarf covered with tiny bit of neck showing
                  • headscarf covered full

                  maybe it wont be such a "shock"

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                    SarahY
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                    lol san

                    Maybe i should try it out.. but first i have other plans. just thought i'd share the thoughts with the other ladies

                    i still think it requires guts, i got some but not enough D

                    i'm sure he's already headscarf-free, so i think it goes the reverse, like

                    • no headscarf
                    • headscarf with neck/hair showing.
                    • headscarf with neck showing. hair fully covered
                    • headscarf covered with tiny bit of neck showing
                    • headscarf covered full

                    maybe it wont be such a "shock"

                    When you put it that way it kinda is shocking / lol a guy in hijab very funny.

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                      afridi220
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                      Peace Girls,

                      I have an idea that might be more comforting but still gutsy.. how about changing the style of you're headscarf? so that it shows say a bit of your neck? and then as weeks/months go on make it a lil bit more..

                      so like go through stages

                      • headscarf covered full
                      • headscarf covered with tiny bit of neck showing
                      • headscarf with neck showing
                      • then eventually take it off? or headscarf with neck/hair showing then eventually take it off.

                      maybe it wont be such a "shock"

                      How abt this

                      Woman students in Egypt wear surgical masks to evade veil ban
                      http//www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1141555.html

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                        san
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                        How abt this

                        Woman students in Egypt wear surgical masks to evade veil ban
                        http//www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1141555.html

                        i want pics!

                        sth like this?

                        http//www.blogcadre.com/files/images/surgicalmask_0.jpg

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                          afridi220
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                          i want pics!

                          sth like this?

                          http//www.blogcadre.com/files/images/surgicalmask_0.jpg

                          That needs lot of free time )

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                            san
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                            That needs lot of free time )

                            only first page on google! i didn't go searching news all-day nope

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                              MUNZIR_ALI
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                              only first page on google! i didn't go searching news all-day nope

                              laugh Good for you P

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                                Alen
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                                I've been thinking about it for a while and I almost took it off yesterday but I chickened out at the last minute -\ Would it be ironic to say that I feel just the way I did when I first put it on?
                                I guess I'm kind of afraid of the reactions of people I know who care about me and the fact that I'm not yet ready to be berated about leaving Sunnism. I remember when I first put it on and hearing my (Non-Muslim) Mother tell me that the Quran doesn't even say to cover your hair, it's strange that she should say this to me a year ago and yet it was as if I put my fingers in my ears refusing to listen. It angered me that she was right and whenever she would ask me to bring the Quran to prove that Hijab = hair covering, I would always put it off until some other time.
                                Now I'm at a point where I simply don't want to endorse it any more but kind of see it as a bit of a safety blanket and it sounds weird but it's a bit of an ice-breaker? If that even makes sense. Plus, as I mentioned before, I'm not yet ready to come out of the closet about my 'apostasy'. I think the Muslim community around here see me in an unrealistic way (they are usually like this with converts) and I guess putting a foot wrong might warrant some horrible reactions.
                                I'm sort of in two minds about it right now. I want it off but I just don't know! >_<
                                Are there any Sisters here who took it off (or kept it on)? Any advice would be nice from girls and guys.
                                Thanks peace

                                Peace,
                                Respectfully.

                                497 Those whose lives are terminated by the angels, while they had wronged themselves; they said What situation were you in? They said We were oppressed on the earth. They said Was the earth of God not wide enough that you could emigrate in it? To these their abode will be Hell; what a miserable destiny!
                                498 Except for those who were oppressed from the men, women, and children who could not devise a plan nor could be guided to a way.
                                499 For these, perhaps God will pardon them. God is Pardoner, Forgiving.
                                4100 Whoever emigrates in the cause of God will find in the earth many spoils and a bounty. And whoever leaves his home emigrating to God and His messenger, then is overcome by death; his recompense has fallen to God, and God is Forgiving, Merciful.

                                You are a Muslim, if you follow The Quran.
                                Only God will Judge you and what humans think or believe about you, is irrelevant, because you can never please all humans, being impossible to met them all and ask them for their opinion.

                                God bless you, sister.
                                Peace.

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                                  FAR
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                                  Quran 285, 37, 1590-1594

                                  As for women wanting to become nude and go against quran 2430... and becoming cheap for quran 2433.... let them please see the scientific evidences provided by some Italian scientists that go against their beliefs but agree with the quran.

                                  http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9x5wY6hbX8

                                  Am I being to harsh?

                                  Maybe I need to find a forum where real muslimahs are at, because I have a question to ask them... and I don't know if the females here are suitable for that.

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                                    Quran 285, 37, 1590-1594

                                    As for women wanting to become nude and go against quran 2430... and becoming cheap for quran 2433.... let them please see the scientific evidences provided by some Italian scientists that go against their beliefs but agree with the quran.

                                    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9x5wY6hbX8

                                    Am I being to harsh?

                                    Maybe I need to find a forum where real muslimahs are at, because I have a question to ask them... and I don't know if the females here are suitable for that.

                                    Uncovering your hair is not nudity. Good riddance!

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                                      FAR
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                                      Uncovering your hair is not nudity. Good riddance!

                                      Actually it is... where pheromones are released... that is. The hair is significant source of this... of course if you were bald...

                                      I haven't found one yet, I'll just have to make sure that the muslimahs in my town speak up.

                                      Please quran 971

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                                        SarahY
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                                        FAR

                                        The headscarf does NOT stop men from talking/thinking and approaching women. What would you know? Have you walked out in headscarf before?

                                        I believe that video was an exaggeration. People (men and women) admire beauty in all forms. That test is subjective to every individual guy even girl. Why didn?t they get women and see what they remembered? Stupid test.

                                        Now in regards to the verses you mentioned

                                        285 what are we denying from the book?

                                        37 I am aware of that verse, doesn?t mean headscarf is a grey area topic. And if we take it as that than obviously it wouldn?t make sense for something important to not be discussed as an obligation. And if you think it?s a clear duty then please point out the verse that says it is.

                                        1590-94 none of us are declaring Quran as falsehood and I find it offensive you put that label upon us. And know that you shall be accounted for all that you do to. We are not stupid.

                                        You have no idea what it is like wearing a headscarf so before you talk about how valid our submission is, think twice and fear Allah

                                        Ask your question, I?m interested to know.

                                        Peace.

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                                          SarahY
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                                          Actually it is... where pheromones are released... that is. The hair is significant source of this... of course if you were bald...

                                          I haven't found one yet, I'll just have to make sure that the muslimahs in my town speak up.

                                          Please quran 971

                                          Nice verse but irrelevant.

                                          If showing hair is nudity, so is showing face, so is showing hand feet etc on both sexes. if you believe exposing anything is nudity well than it works both ways.

                                          hair can be an attraction on men and women. Bald men for example look at them with and without hair, a different look is perceived. beauty is subjective.

                                          Maybe I need to find a forum where real muslimahs are at, because I have a question to ask them... and I don't know if the females here are suitable for that.

                                          Maybe you should ask your question

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