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    Andya_Primanda
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    Unfortunately, Deviant Heretics of the first order.

    Peace

    Why are you still with us here, then?

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      zulu12
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      I'm not with you and never will be. Far from it.

      I'm exposing your b@@@@@@t ways and ideologies for all to see. And the last time I checked, this Forum was open to all was it not, or does one have to denounce Islam in full, come up with some ludicrously far fetched jackanory fictitious explanation for every word of the alphabet in a language which they don't speak or understand but are experts in (surprise, surprise), to become a member and post?

      Peace

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        Ayisha
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        The question was to back up the 5 salaats using the Quran and thereformer1 did back up the claim using the Quran. But instead of dealing with this question, you conveniently move onto another question asking details of another Forum and totally ignore his answer. Now it is up to you questioners to disprove his claim or confirm the 3 salaats using the Quran.

        And Rasulhamza was right, you guys will ask thousands of questions and then some after which you will question God Himself.

        Unfortunately, Deviant Heretics of the first order.

        Peace

        excuse me sir, you complain that 'instead of dealing with this question' new questions are asked regarding a 'secret' forum. The answer thereformer gave concerning the 5 prayers was acceptable to me and as you will see there was a warning after this that I should ask no more, so I didnt. It was he that then introduced the 'secret' forum insisting that a million more questions would be asked regarding the prayers, they weren't, but all I simply asked was where is this other forum. One would think I was asking for the secret code to MI5 the way he has handled that, forcing us to believe there is NO other forum where he answered a million questions anyway! So you reference to us asking many many more questions based on his answer is in fact false and I can only assume you are blowing hot air along with thereformer dude. Delusions of grandeur and all that jedi Also the only ones I see here that are 'questioning God himself' are those like you and reformer who question the fact that Quran is complete and that it takes a man to fill in the details for Him.

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          excuse me sir, you complain that 'instead of dealing with this question' new questions are asked regarding a 'secret' forum. The answer thereformer gave concerning the 5 prayers was acceptable to me and as you will see there was a warning after this that I should ask no more, so I didnt. It was he that then introduced the 'secret' forum insisting that a million more questions would be asked regarding the prayers, they weren't, but all I simply asked was where is this other forum. One would think I was asking for the secret code to MI5 the way he has handled that, forcing us to believe there is NO other forum where he answered a million questions anyway! So you reference to us asking many many more questions based on his answer is in fact false and I can only assume you are blowing hot air along with thereformer dude. Delusions of grandeur and all that jedi Also the only ones I see here that are 'questioning God himself' are those like you and reformer who question the fact that Quran is complete and that it takes a man to fill in the details for Him.

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          O ye who believe! avoid most of suspicions; for suspicion in some cases is a sin. And spy not, nor back-bite one another. Would any of you like to eat the flesh of his brother who is dead? Certainly you would loathe it. And fear Allah, surely, Allah is Oft-Returning with "

          Zulu12 is right, I did answer your question wich is an important question about salat, why do you insist in questionning in things out of the subject? I didn't want to give you that forum for a reason , so stop blaming me or anyone else and get back to the topic.
          the fact is Quran completed is beyond your mind for now , as a new memeber in Islam, because you'll not know what God means by complete .
          you got your answer that there are five times for salat a day , so try to know something else by an important question about Akidah ok?

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            O ye who believe! avoid most of suspicions; for suspicion in some cases is a sin. And spy not, nor back-bite one another. Would any of you like to eat the flesh of his brother who is dead? Certainly you would loathe it. And fear Allah, surely, Allah is Oft-Returning with "

            Zulu12 is right, I did answer your question wich is an important question about salat, why do you insist in questionning in things out of the subject? I didn't want to give you that forum for a reason , so stop blaming me or anyone else and get back to the topic.
            you got your answer that there are five times for salat a day , so try to know something else by an important question about Akidah ok?

            You brought up the subject of the other forum not me.

            the fact is Quran completed is beyond your mind for now , as a new memeber in Islam, because you'll not know what God means by complete .

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            O ye who believe! Avoid suspicion as much (as possible) for suspicion in some cases is a sin And spy not on each other behind their backs. Would any of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? Nay, ye would abhor it...But fear Allah For Allah is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.
            Its verse 12 not 13 and you are suspecting that I am a new member to Islam and that I 'dont know' things that you have NO IDEA whether I know or not, please stop it.

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              You brought up the subject of the other forum not me.

              I brought the subject and at the same time I had shut it down but the most surprising thing is a member his curiosity will kill him.

              Its verse 12 not 13 and you are suspecting that I am a new member to Islam and that I 'dont know' things that you have NO IDEA whether I know or not, please stop it.

              I've just copied it from a website of Quran, so it's not important the number, the most important is understand it .
              according to your questions and your answers I can make my statements .

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                Ayisha
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                I brought the subject and at the same time I had shut it down but the most surprising thing is a member his curiosity will kill him.
                I've just copied it from a website of Quran, so it's not important the number, the most important is understand it .
                according to your questions and your answers I can make my statements .

                Things you copy from websites should be checked for accuracy before you pass them on dont you think?

                Are you threatening me with death here? I think I now know who you are and if so this is not new to me, certainly from you! If we weren't curious none of us would be here, no one would look outside what their fathers told them and there would be no progress in the world.

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                  Things you copy from websites should be checked for accuracy before you pass them on dont you think?

                  No, I don't think so, I can pass it on without number, as I said the most important thing is understnading it.

                  Are you threatening me with death here? I think I now know who you are and if so this is not new to me, certainly from you! If we weren't curious none of us would be here, no one would look outside what their fathers told them and there would be no progress in the world.

                  hahahahah, that was funny >>> I didn't say that , curiosity kill is a proverb a saying according to a story about cat and a rat. When the rat tried to know something and his curiosity leads him to a cat wedding where he was unfortunately the meal of the wedding . hahaha . that's you.

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                    Things you copy from websites should be checked for accuracy before you pass them on dont you think?

                    Are you threatening me with death here? I think I now know who you are and if so this is not new to me, certainly from you! If we weren't curious none of us would be here, no one would look outside what their fathers told them and there would be no progress in the world.

                    what kind of progress you are looking for when God has said "Today, I have completed your religion, perfected My blessing upon you" are you looking for innovations in a perfect religion? one of the sayings of prophet goes "if you have no fear of God then you must do whatever you like". And btw progression is not prohibited in the field of technology etc.... Thanks

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                      what kind of progress you are looking for when God has said "Today, I have completed your religion, perfected My blessing upon you" are you looking for innovations in a perfect religion? one of the sayings of prophet goes "if you have no fear of God then you must do whatever you like". And btw progression is not prohibited in the field of technology etc.... Thanks

                      I asked where the forum was, thats ALL I asked, you and he have decided to make a meal out of it. I have NO problem at all with the verse you quoted or ANY verse from Allah, its YOU that has ADDED hadith to that post as you add them to the PERFECT religion from the PERFECT COMPLETE Book you have just quoted from.

                      I have not said progression in the field of technology IS prohibited, I have not said progression in ANYTHING is prohibited but apparently 'curioity' IS prohibited, so I assume by your statement curiosity regarding technology is ok but not in religion?

                      You start your post asking what progress I need when God has stated that verse and you end it with adding progress in technology is ok!

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                        I asked where the forum was, thats ALL I asked, you and he have decided to make a meal out of it. I have NO problem at all with the verse you quoted or ANY verse from Allah, its YOU that has ADDED hadith to that post as you add them to the PERFECT religion from the PERFECT COMPLETE Book you have just quoted from.

                        I have not said progression in the field of technology IS prohibited, I have not said progression in ANYTHING is prohibited but apparently 'curioity' IS prohibited, so I assume by your statement curiosity regarding technology is ok but not in religion?

                        You start your post asking what progress I need when God has stated that verse and you end it with adding progress in technology is ok!

                        Ayisha, when he made it clear he won't tell you then why you keep insisting? and what is that you have against the hadith? don't you know hadith is compulsory in religion of Islam?

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                          Ayisha, when he made it clear he won't tell you then why you keep insisting? and what is that you have against the hadith? don't you know hadith is compulsory in religion of Islam?

                          Im not insisting, I know the 'secret' forum he 'answered a million questions' on yeah rotfl

                          hadith is compulsory in islam? According to Allah the ONLY Hadith, the BEST Hadith, is His. Also according to Allah there is NO COMPULSION in religion, He is right, truth does stand out clearly from error! bravo

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                            Im not insisting, I know the 'secret' forum he 'answered a million questions' on yeah rotfl

                            No way, you're dreaming .

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                              Im not insisting, I know the 'secret' forum he 'answered a million questions' on yeah rotfl

                              hadith is compulsory in islam? According to Allah the ONLY Hadith, the BEST Hadith, is His. Also according to Allah there is NO COMPULSION in religion, He is right, truth does stand out clearly from error! bravo

                              use your mind sister, how can following hadith be wrong when all the Muslims follow hadith and quran!?

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                                use your mind sister, how can following hadith be wrong when all the Muslims follow hadith and quran!?

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                                  a common mistake!

                                  That verse is about following the kafiroon, of course they are in majority and Muslims are in minority.

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                                    6116

                                    Wert thou to follow the common run of those on earth, they will lead thee away from the Way of Allah. They follow nothing but conjecture they do nothing but lie.

                                    care to explain the difference between what he said and what the verse has mentioned ?

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                                      a common mistake!

                                      That verse is about following the kafiroon, of course they are in majority and Muslims are in minority.

                                      006.114 Say "Shall I seek for judge other than Allah? - when He it is Who hath sent unto you the Book, explained in detail." They know full well, to whom We have given the Book, that it hath been sent down from thy Lord in truth. Never be then of those who doubt.
                                      006.115 The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfilment in truth and in justice None can change His words for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all.
                                      006.116 Wert thou to follow the common run of those on earth, they will lead thee away from the way of Allah. They follow nothing but conjecture they do nothing but lie.
                                      006.117 Thy Lord knoweth best who strayeth from His way He knoweth best who they are that receive His guidance.

                                      Its talking of the majority on earth, its talking of those that change the message, those that add to it, those that deceive.
                                      Of the kafiroon there are many that take the label 'Muslim' but dont really believe enough to follows the words of God Alone, they need a man to follow, to fill in details they themsleves are not guided to see. Thats what this is about.

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                                        Its talking of the majority on earth, its talking of those that change the message, those that add to it, those that deceive.
                                        Of the kafiroon there are many that take the label 'Muslim' but dont really believe enough to follows the words of God Alone, they need a man to follow, to fill in details they themsleves are not guided to see. Thats what this is about.

                                        so adding hadith is wrong but adding your interpretation in quran or adding any interpretation other than hadith is right?? what is that you have against hadith sister? and how do you reason?

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                                          Its talking of the majority on earth, its talking of those that change the message, those that add to it, those that deceive.
                                          Of the kafiroon there are many that take the label 'Muslim' but dont really believe enough to follows the words of God Alone, they need a man to follow, to fill in details they themsleves are not guided to see. Thats what this is about.

                                          Congratulation, another sin , Interpreting Quran from your desires.

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